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Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
March 03 2019 19:47 GMT
#1294
On March 04 2019 00:32 Holyflare wrote:
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On March 04 2019 00:10 Vivax wrote:
HF are you jealous of Palmar or something. Let him be the mayor, you should know yourself enough to know that you act upon the weirdest impulses at EoDs.


Not jealous, no. I see the same guy advocating the same lynch as me yet people jumping on his bandwagon and citing that the reason they're doing it is that they want sentinel mayor lynched like it's some revelation that only Palmar has brought to the thread. That's suspicious.

In the process of catching up now, Palmar's policy lynch on Sentinel was simply a lot more noticeable/forceful than yours.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
March 03 2019 20:33 GMT
#1317
I think we should lynch Tubesock for this post:

On March 03 2019 18:23 Tubesock wrote:
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On March 03 2019 17:52 Acrofales wrote:
Going out again til late. Let's lynch Track. If not him, at least someone in this list:
2) Fecalfeast
8) Oatsmaster
9) WaveofShadow
11) sicklucker
17) ExO_
19) [UoN]Sentinel
20) Grackaroni28) Trfel
30) Mr. Wiggles


Why isn’t Palmar, Blazinghand, Rels, onegu, pandain, darthFoley, etc on this list too? Are these that much different than straight policy lynches?

I think he asked this question to make Acro seem scummy for pushing low-content posters, and that conflicts with the way that Tubesock has been playing the game so far.

On March 03 2019 17:59 Tubesock wrote:
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On March 03 2019 13:47 Tictock wrote:
Ok, I came, I saw, I did some things. Seems like ppl are not around so gunna do other things. May check in once more before bed but I am pretty sure I am not going to fully read the stuff I missed.

I'd like someone who is wanting to lynch oats to convince me why he is scum.

Similarly as to why ppl are voting HF for mayor.

If deadline was right now/soon I would push for Meap or Grack to lynch.


You know HF was going to mayor lynch [UoN]Sentinel before it was cool right? So, the difference between HF and Palmar is HF has actually played so far and given plenty of opinions. And exactly like Chezinu said, latching onto this Sentinel policy is right up Palmars alley if both were scum. And absolutely worth it. Plus Palmar doesn’t have to do anything else, talk about skating by.

Vote HF for mayor for the Sentinel kill, ##VOTE: Palmar so he actually plays. Town win wins.



On March 04 2019 01:07 Tubesock wrote:
I’m voting Trfl. Maybe he will come play.

If Tubesock is town I don't see why he should be questioning Acro's lynch choices considering his own so far.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
March 03 2019 20:34 GMT
#1319
I don't think Acro is a good lynch today. I think his tone has been pretty townie and there are other people with similar content drawing a lot less negative attention.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
March 03 2019 20:40 GMT
#1329
On March 04 2019 05:35 Fecalfeast wrote:
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On March 04 2019 05:33 Grackaroni wrote:
I think we should lynch Tubesock for this post:

On March 03 2019 18:23 Tubesock wrote:
On March 03 2019 17:52 Acrofales wrote:
Going out again til late. Let's lynch Track. If not him, at least someone in this list:
2) Fecalfeast
8) Oatsmaster
9) WaveofShadow
11) sicklucker
17) ExO_
19) [UoN]Sentinel
20) Grackaroni28) Trfel
30) Mr. Wiggles


Why isn’t Palmar, Blazinghand, Rels, onegu, pandain, darthFoley, etc on this list too? Are these that much different than straight policy lynches?

I think he asked this question to make Acro seem scummy for pushing low-content posters, and that conflicts with the way that Tubesock has been playing the game so far.

On March 03 2019 17:59 Tubesock wrote:
On March 03 2019 13:47 Tictock wrote:
Ok, I came, I saw, I did some things. Seems like ppl are not around so gunna do other things. May check in once more before bed but I am pretty sure I am not going to fully read the stuff I missed.

I'd like someone who is wanting to lynch oats to convince me why he is scum.

Similarly as to why ppl are voting HF for mayor.

If deadline was right now/soon I would push for Meap or Grack to lynch.


You know HF was going to mayor lynch [UoN]Sentinel before it was cool right? So, the difference between HF and Palmar is HF has actually played so far and given plenty of opinions. And exactly like Chezinu said, latching onto this Sentinel policy is right up Palmars alley if both were scum. And absolutely worth it. Plus Palmar doesn’t have to do anything else, talk about skating by.

Vote HF for mayor for the Sentinel kill, ##VOTE: Palmar so he actually plays. Town win wins.



On March 04 2019 01:07 Tubesock wrote:
I’m voting Trfl. Maybe he will come play.

If Tubesock is town I don't see why he should be questioning Acro's lynch choices considering his own so far.

Multiple people, myself included, have called acro out on going for low-content posters and your case hinges upon it. Does that affect your read at all?

Nobody else that I recall was attacking Acro for going after low content posters while only pushing people for not posting, and also I dislike the post because I think it's an accusation disguised as a question rather than other people who have just called Acro shit.

Though my process for choosing which filters to read came from which filters I felt were mid-sized and blendy, and I'm probably coming to yours pretty soon too to be honest.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
March 03 2019 20:42 GMT
#1332
On March 04 2019 05:36 iamperfection wrote:
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On March 04 2019 05:34 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't think Acro is a good lynch today. I think his tone has been pretty townie and there are other people with similar content drawing a lot less negative attention.

acro is a good player.

The rest of you are pretty much trash except for like 2 people.

and i dont know what you mean by tone

His filter has emotion and fluid conversation.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
March 03 2019 20:52 GMT
#1359
Also I think Tumblewood is mafia.

It's hard for me to explain but when he plays as town he has controversial opinions and he almost always sticks his foot in his mouth. I know some people like him for his aggressive early post against MZ but I remember when I played mafia with him he entered the thread in the same way, and it gave me bad vibes that he didn't have any posts early on that weren't serious like that.

Also I disliked the list post he made.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
March 03 2019 20:54 GMT
#1364
On March 04 2019 05:52 iamperfection wrote:
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On March 04 2019 05:49 LightningStrike wrote:
I calmed down enough to just switching my mayor vote to iamp his case seems solid enough. Wont post for the rest of the day phase/night phase
Bye

your so full of shit.

You really raged from like the softest pressure ever??

bs

Yeah he's done that a lot of times before as town.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
March 03 2019 20:57 GMT
#1369
Also pretty dumb idea that I had, but this post is weird:

On March 03 2019 02:10 Ace wrote:
I think we should nominate someone who has barely posted yet as Mayor. There are a lot of thoughts already posted that could help us draw conclusions based on conversations.

Giving a semi-lurking/lurking player lynch power and forcing them into the game seems like a good move to me. So a player like Tumblewood or tubesock should be nominated (they've barely posted from a cursory filter check).


If Tumble/Tube are actually scum there is a non-trivial chance that he just wanted to slip in the names of teammates into a post.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
March 03 2019 21:12 GMT
#1394
I have no idea what the mayor vote count looks like atm but I'm in favor of Palmar. I think Palmar has a better chance of lynching scum than thread at the moment.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
March 03 2019 21:14 GMT
#1396
On March 04 2019 06:13 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
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On March 04 2019 06:12 Grackaroni wrote:
I have no idea what the mayor vote count looks like atm but I'm in favor of Palmar. I think Palmar has a better chance of lynching scum than thread at the moment.

Not while he's still set on me he doesn't

Well you did post reads and that you read your role PM, so I don't know if he will policy lynch or not.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
March 03 2019 21:19 GMT
#1400
On March 04 2019 06:16 Fecalfeast wrote:
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On March 04 2019 06:14 Grackaroni wrote:
On March 04 2019 06:13 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On March 04 2019 06:12 Grackaroni wrote:
I have no idea what the mayor vote count looks like atm but I'm in favor of Palmar. I think Palmar has a better chance of lynching scum than thread at the moment.

Not while he's still set on me he doesn't

Well you did post reads and that you read your role PM, so I don't know if he will policy lynch or not.

So you think he has the best chance of lynching scum but also don't know if he will still policy lynch someone? Why trust palmar's judgement if you can't even predict if he'll policy lynch someone after they fulfilled the requirements to not be policy lynched?

Seems like you're hedging to me

I'd take Palmar scum read or policy lynch over Oats/LS/Acro lynches, which I think are the alternatives right now.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
March 03 2019 22:08 GMT
#1464
I've never seen an angry Chez
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
March 03 2019 22:14 GMT
#1473
Holyflare is your whole Oats case that he scum read both you and the person you were scumreading?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
March 03 2019 22:24 GMT
#1491
On March 04 2019 07:18 Holyflare wrote:
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On March 04 2019 07:14 Grackaroni wrote:
Holyflare is your whole Oats case that he scum read both you and the person you were scumreading?


I literally just quoted words I said that didn't have anything to do with what you're saying. The answer is no.

Yeah and my question was from reading the quotes that you just posted and that's exactly what you said.

You said Oats called you mafia and the guy you were calling mafia in the space of a post, so his reads are inconsistent.

And then you said that people scum reading you must be fabricated and some sort of conspiracy...
I mean... I'd think you'd be used to people scum reading you by now.

For what it's worth I read Oats from making the same headless chicken behavior that Rayn does:

On March 03 2019 18:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Oatsmaster is very likely to be town and hf's meta read on him is completely incorrect. Not that oats is helping much or isn't a headless chicken but that doesnt mean he is mafia, in fact it meeans the opposite quite often.


Though if your case is the three posts you quoted in that Acro post then that's really bad.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
March 03 2019 22:33 GMT
#1503
On March 04 2019 07:30 Rels wrote:
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On March 04 2019 07:25 rsoultin wrote:
On March 04 2019 07:22 Rels wrote:
On March 04 2019 07:16 rsoultin wrote:
I'm not liking wave this game for reasons I can't describe other than he seems like one of those old vulture headed muppets in the peanut gallery.

me too. He's popping once in a while to say nothing. His one post that contains something serious is also pretty bad, how Conversion is town because it's an early game wagon


Lol >< I know this is ironic but you playing D1 is skeezing me out, and though I think I'm obv town I also know I look a bit like a looney toon on crack so I'm not sure why you'd be top towning me in this crowd which I presume is the reason you're voting me mayor?

But I'm gonna ignore that as a later in the game concern.

Anyone else on Wave? Like I don't really remember ever being so great at reading him or anything and I think he's kinda blah like this as town sometimes but maybe not to this extent idk ><

72 hours of D1 is a blessing for me
The way you doubted yourself over rayn was super townie

Sheeesh I didn't know day 1 was 72 hours. I thought we were getting near time for shenannies. I'm walking off.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
March 04 2019 01:27 GMT
#1546
On March 04 2019 09:59 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
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On March 04 2019 08:25 darthfoley wrote:
Interested on MeapZiph's take on iamp after the last 30 pages.

@Meap are you still seeing red?

On March 03 2019 16:00 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On March 03 2019 15:50 Chezinu wrote:
On March 03 2019 15:42 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On March 03 2019 15:35 Chezinu wrote:
On March 03 2019 15:19 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On March 03 2019 15:14 Chezinu wrote:
On March 03 2019 07:58 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On March 03 2019 07:56 Grackaroni wrote:
[quote]
You just don't have the patience to wait until 11:11 PM EST

I don't understand why you don't post now. You're very obviously reading along with the thread.


Meapak_Ziphh!!!!


COLOR ME THIS!!! WHAT COLOR AM I?!??!??!

+ Show Spoiler +
After your response, I am going to unleash analysis based on your response... so type your words wisely.. or speech to text your words wisely if that's how you rolls... or role...

Brown Chez, always brown.


A wise choice. Well you see. I didn't quite like your coloring skills earlier. You paint my greens and blues red!!!

If you said I was red, then you would explain your coloring skills to assume I'm wrong on my reads.. If you went green, then you would insult my own coloring skills. With brown, you have passed.

Ahh Chez, I may not be as active as I once was but I learned many years ago not to paint you red or green. You are brown and embody it every game. I'm saddened to know that we disagree on the colors of others though. I feel comfortable with some of what I've colored but others I am not so sure of. Who in particular do you you think I've gotten wrong so far?


The iamp and HF. Thought you were dissing me

It's gonna be hard to get me to budge on iamp, his level of effort while still being semi active in the thread just smells like someone who is trying to active lurk his way into escaping attention. He's a solid red for me right now.

I have HF as green, mostly because I thought the way he came after me during the whole conversion discussion was from a townie mindset. And he brought up some good points about Oats which I hadn't fully considered until he mentioned it. Do you color him red?


Not as strongly as I was earlier, I just finished reading everyone's filter which took me a solid 6ish hours so I'm going to take a quick break and clear my head. In the mean time y'all can feel free to check out my notes I created. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JaeEcpko74-Vdm8iN3r1TWsKBW8HITOXUhutGH3bSY8/edit?usp=sharing
How you interpret the information there is up to you but I'm just giving out the raw data. Later tonight I'll compile some thoughts based off of that but I'm kinda burnt out now

The one thing I know for sure is that I need someone to vigi the shit out of Blazinghand and possibly Pandain as well.

That's pretty cool.

I want to update my colorings

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Town

Lightningstrike
Oatsmaster
Jockmcplop
Vivax
Rsoultin
Iamperfection

Scum lean

TW
TS
Rayn - I changed my mind about Rayn. He had good presence at the start of the game but I don't like what he's been pushing recently and HF legitimately has a good point when he says that Rayn has been talking through people.
BH - for not playing but avoiding doing anything too attention grabby so far like random lynch.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
March 04 2019 01:46 GMT
#1556
Standouts from Meapak's spreadsheet:

Meapak/me/Mr. Wiggles are the only ones purely being scum read. Feelsbadman.

Holyflare has a sea of town reads with Rayn as the only person reading him as mafia in the middle.

Ticktocks' reads are very strange. Town read on Sicklucker as honest and engaged, the only town read on Damdred who is very widely scum read.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
March 04 2019 01:53 GMT
#1558
On March 04 2019 10:48 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2019 10:46 Grackaroni wrote:
Standouts from Meapak's spreadsheet:

Meapak/me/Mr. Wiggles are the only ones purely being scum read. Feelsbadman.

Holyflare has a sea of town reads with Rayn as the only person reading him as mafia in the middle.

Ticktocks' reads are very strange. Town read on Sicklucker as honest and engaged, the only town read on Damdred who is very widely scum read.

Ah.

Maybe something bad from tick tick or just honestly odd though?

To be honest I started skimming over her posts because I didn't agree with her logic for a lot of reads and wrote her off just based off effort.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
March 04 2019 03:41 GMT
#1579
Don't do it man. Only scum vote for people besides themselves for mayor.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
March 04 2019 18:35 GMT
#2099
On March 04 2019 18:19 Palmar wrote:
As a sidenote, I actually think all the top mayor wagons are town. I think the least likely wagon to have many mafia on it is HF. I think my wagon is appealing to mafia, I think iamp's wagon is also appealing. I think smaller wagons and not voting yet is even more appealing to mafia.

The reason I think mafia is unlikely to be on HF's wagon is that it's a raggedy bunch of contrarians, baddies and outright trolls. I think these protest votes are actually more likely to be town.

I think my wagon (and iamp's to a lesser extent) is a much safer bet for mafia. I'm the conventional choice, the easy choice to make. I'm playing pretty townie, I'm a well known name in all eras of TL Mafia, I have a clear objective etc. I think mafia is less likely to be contrarian like that.

It's somewhat similar to my thoughts on sentinel, he might be mafia because he wasn't enough of a difficult assholes. If there is one way to describe the people on HF's wagon, including HF himself, it's "difficult assholes".

I went to look at the HF vote list for a laugh but the only troll on there is Slam. I don't know who the difficult assholes are.
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