I'm assuming rayn is saying the method is flawed b/c we need five liberal policies to win, and we're going to run out of options fast if, in the worst case scenario, we're always in a 1/1 loop. but idk man just guessing here

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October 30 2018 17:12 GMT

#114

all I can say is I am a trustworthy person and you should elect me as chancellor

I'll bbl though-- still at work

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October 31 2018 00:41 GMT

#185

are we generally agreeing to pass these two or what

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October 31 2018 00:42 GMT

#187

not really considering ur in it tbh. should have paid attention

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October 31 2018 01:00 GMT

#191

On October 31 2018 09:59 prplhz wrote:

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Because you didn't know he was in it or because you had forgotten it?

I didn't look and thought we could have a nice game but forgot who he was.

I voted no pass to this anyways, see you all in 21 hours

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October 31 2018 15:12 GMT

#208

On October 31 2018 10:01 Grackaroni wrote:

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Why did you vote no?

Because the most chaotic way to play is to just topdeck after reaching 3 failed elections, and I will vote no to any government including myself being president

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October 31 2018 15:38 GMT

#210

In all seriousness, I like to always pass the first go, in any similar game like mafia when possible, to reveal where votes went and talk about that to get more information and give me one more round to work with, since drawing a random card as a policy isn't the worst thing ever, neither is adding one to the election tracker early on.

Whether that's optimal or not, I'm not quite sure but I do like doing it. Considering we can get RNG'd and get a F/F/F draw (unless this is impossible, someone correct me please if it is), I don't see why we're in any rush to elect this particular government.

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October 31 2018 15:41 GMT

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On October 31 2018 12:42 byj wrote:

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Why though, even if rayn was Scum, he'd be 'forced' to enact a liberal policy from what he posted.

Aside from the explanation on why I voted no, I don't quite like this questioning. Rayn isn't "forced" to do anything if he's scum/facist-- he can enact something and lie about it (making it him vs krogan, sending liberals into disarray, and trying to guarantee that Hitler/other Facist looks good) and still win the game.

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October 31 2018 16:28 GMT

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On November 01 2018 01:06 kitaman27 wrote:

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Eh this explanation is a lot more scummy now that you lay it out. It would be one thing to ask for more time by failing a few and then eventually passing, but now that I think of it, a policy to reject all governments is really anti-town.

On our first draw FFF would be like 24% (someone check my math?), as opposed to a 65% chance (11/17) of a fail from a single draw. That's really, really far from optimal.

I'm rejecting the first one, optimal or not. I'm not actually going to reject every single government from here on out.

Be back later, short break today. Interested to see votes, majority passing or not.

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October 31 2018 17:56 GMT

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On November 01 2018 01:52 happykrogan wrote:

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How will votes on a government that didn't pass (on the first day at least) be more telling than a passed government?
Like what can you get out of these votes that will help you to read people until you can vote for the next government?

Because we don't run the risk of a crapshoot government passing a fascist policy in the event that you are not town?

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October 31 2018 17:57 GMT

#229

I don't really care if I'm ever not elected chancellor TBH, that makes me make less decisions. I will remain in this pocket of neutral/slighty facist all day long as long as it lets me be lazy.

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October 31 2018 18:00 GMT

#230

was kitaman the one that said just keep electing one dude until facist policy happens?

why was that a bad idea again

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October 31 2018 18:03 GMT

#231

I guess we can still lose mathematically if Facists play hard enough to sow disarray when there was a 1/1 split and a Facist policy was passed

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October 31 2018 18:08 GMT

#234

ok, so what prevents us from creating a super town triangle and cycling through them? if facists want to play deception, we'll get minimum 2-3 liberal policies through and we can eat some facist policies to cycle the deck (assuming that in some variation of the government, liberal policies are thrown away), and then rinse and repeat

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