• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 09:21
CEST 15:21
KST 22:21
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins EWC 202531Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 20259Power Rank - Esports World Cup 202580RSL Season 1 - Final Week9[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall15
Community News
[BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder6EWC 2025 - Replay Pack4Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced38BSL Team Wars - Bonyth, Dewalt, Hawk & Sziky teams10Weekly Cups (July 14-20): Final Check-up0
StarCraft 2
General
Serral wins EWC 2025 The GOAT ranking of GOAT rankings EWC 2025 - Replay Pack #1: Maru - Greatest Players of All Time Greatest Players of All Time: 2025 Update
Tourneys
Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) TaeJa vs Creator Bo7 SC Evo Showmatch Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $10,000 live event Esports World Cup 2025
Strategy
How did i lose this ZvP, whats the proper response
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 484 Magnetic Pull Mutation #239 Bad Weather Mutation # 483 Kill Bot Wars Mutation # 482 Wheel of Misfortune
Brood War
General
Flash Announces (and Retracts) Hiatus From ASL BW General Discussion Brood War web app to calculate unit interactions [BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced
Tourneys
Small VOD Thread 2.0 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL] Non-Korean Championship - Final weekend [BSL20] Non-Korean Championship 4x BSL + 4x China
Strategy
Does 1 second matter in StarCraft? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition [G] Mineral Boosting
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Nintendo Switch Thread Total Annihilation Server - TAForever [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok)
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Stop Killing Games - European Citizens Initiative Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine UK Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale The Automated Ban List
Blogs
The Link Between Fitness and…
TrAiDoS
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Socialism Anyone?
GreenHorizons
Eight Anniversary as a TL…
Mizenhauer
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 760 users

[M] Classic Mafia - Page 4

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 10 11 12 Next All
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 22 2018 09:17 GMT
#1565
On March 22 2018 18:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Do you (still) think Koshi is mafia?

I don't think I ever thought koshi was mafia. I don't really care about koshi until he starts playing. I haven't noticed him playing much at all.

He hasn't found any kind of a tunnel to get settled in to yet, so maybe it's fine, but maybe this is just weak scum koshi. I don't think he's a primary lynch candidate right now.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 22 2018 09:18 GMT
#1566
On March 22 2018 18:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
dart'hfoley claimed cop and i have explained my read on Moosy so you can go look it up in my filter. Not saying he's gonna do anything that helps town but he is still town.

moosey is a good vigi shot.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 22 2018 09:19 GMT
#1569
On March 22 2018 18:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2018 18:18 Palmar wrote:
On March 22 2018 18:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
dart'hfoley claimed cop and i have explained my read on Moosy so you can go look it up in my filter. Not saying he's gonna do anything that helps town but he is still town.

moosey is a good vigi shot.

I agree.

You agree that one of your top town reads is a good vigi shot.

noted.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 22 2018 09:22 GMT
#1571
what do you think my alignment is rayn?
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 22 2018 09:27 GMT
#1574
On March 22 2018 18:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You also wanted to lynch your townread so i guess we're in the same boat, now aren't we?

No, you're just being dyslexic as usual.

disformation is not a townread. I just think he's more likely to be town than scum. By default every player in the game is more likely to flip town than scum, so if I have no super strong scumreads (like build-a-case strong), my best shot is maybe 40-50% chance of flipping scum.

disfo has that chance, and is a mechanically good lynch. He did, especially in the early game, sound like a forced carefree player.

On March 20 2018 09:40 disformation wrote:
halp. cant fall asleep. can anyone sing me a lullaby?


On March 20 2018 10:15 disformation wrote:
im slighty confused.
but its kay. prolly the jet lag.

totally not related: hi koshi, do you also have trouble falling asleep?


On March 20 2018 10:42 disformation wrote:
dat conv ninja. nvm then.


On March 20 2018 17:14 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2018 17:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 20 2018 17:09 Holyflare wrote:
I also think moosy is scummy because the only person to "call him out" was exo and apparently he felt enough pressure/angst to vote himself off of that. Don't know whether I should listen to mafia moosy's post last game on whether he's reformed and base things off that or not though.

Was initially a town read for being happy but now not.

I 100% disagree, I think Moosy is town.

hm? y though?



The tone, the stupid abbreviations all kinda fit "disfo is mafia". My one reservation is that he claimed vet so now everything is stupid.


Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 22 2018 09:28 GMT
#1575
What's hf's alignment rayn?
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 22 2018 09:30 GMT
#1578
On March 22 2018 06:17 Tictock wrote:
I just got off a 9 hour shift with no breaks kus my place refuses to schedule enough people.

Going to speak with my managers in a few kus I’m fed up with shit and am pretty close to quitting.

So I am rather disctracted today and am unlikely to do anything related to this game till tonight.


On March 22 2018 09:41 Tictock wrote:
Skimmed through EoD and it looks like most people went pretty pants on head.

I don’t even understand why Rels got lynched? All I saw was Rsoul shouting “lynch Rels” without mentioning whatever scummy thing he did that made her switch from her earlier “Rels is a bad D1 lynch” stance.

I also noticed Noobking wasting his vote on a totally null slot that got replaced and take no stances on the other wagons.

Apparently I have almost 40 pages to catch up on and I’m still pretty demoralized from my shit day/life. No promises.


I know questioning rl excuses is kinda shit but man that was some useful timing for ticktock.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 22 2018 09:33 GMT
#1580
On March 22 2018 18:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Isn't "more likely to be town" a townread? You sometimes say stuff in a way i can't really understand because i think you're saying one thing and then you say another thing without a reason that hits me.

No, because then everyone is a townread.

If you shoot a person at random in mafia they have a 70-80% chance of flipping town.

That doesn't make everyone a townread.

A townread is someone who has an increased chance of being town based on your judgement. That is, a higher chance than the baseline.

So you can easily have a scumread that you still believe has more than 50% chance of flipping town.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 22 2018 09:33 GMT
#1581
On March 22 2018 18:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Look, if you wanna ask me about reads go look at them in my filter. I have explained my reads on probably all people and none of them have changed heavily after the lynch except for Conversion (more likely town), darthfoley (prolly town but idc rn), Mocsta (less town but still town) and you (slight town -> null).

I've read like 15 pages of this game, and I intentionally avoid the filters of people like you and hf.

Just humor me
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 22 2018 09:39 GMT
#1583
I don't even remember anything by ykl

I'm still unsure about noobking. I intitally called him town for being logical in that argument regarding exo's claim, but apparently he is smart enough to argue about stuff like that as mafia. hf and mocsta both independently claimed so.

I guess I'll ahve to go read his filter at some point.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 22 2018 09:40 GMT
#1584
On March 21 2018 04:18 Fecalfeast wrote:
Palmar - not trolling, i don't want to lymch him


This is like the worst reason to townread me btw.

if FF is mafia, this is literally him messing up
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 22 2018 09:46 GMT
#1588
On March 22 2018 18:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
wow.. this is quite amusing. I can't understand why people are saying noobking is scummy for being logical because that's not it. Apparently noone understands what i am saying about him. The thing is not that he is being logical, it is the thing he uses completely NAI things to "prove" his reads, like "it is scientifically proven" or "you used the word honestly which is more likely mafia does that" (which you picked up from last game when you read his filter there early). Those are completely NAI reasons to scumread anyone. Here like he grilled "ykl" for using some word that was completely irrelevant to the context of the post. I mean like he is "finding" shit that looks good on paper but throws into trash all the things where WHY people would do that as either alignment and only focuses on the "scientific proof" to justify his read(s).

citation needed
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 22 2018 09:46 GMT
#1590
and I don't think anyone said he was scum for being logical. It was me who gave him a townlean for it, that hf then started talking about how he likes to argue semantics and shit.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 22 2018 09:48 GMT
#1592
I love how it took less than 1 page of mocsta's 7 page filter for him to drop the stupid post restriction :D
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 22 2018 09:50 GMT
#1593
also where did df claim cop rayn? why does hf say he doesn't? I had no idea about this claim.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 22 2018 10:06 GMT
#1601
I actually really like rayn's last quote on noobking. That was a perfectly readable sentence by ykl, but noobking decided to be obtuse about it.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 22 2018 10:37 GMT
#1606
I didn't realize mafia could have strongman

you will still not be shot.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 22 2018 10:39 GMT
#1607
Basically disfo, apologize for being bad, and then go become town jesus. Anything less than town jesus and we'll have to lynch you at some point.

You understand that you've put yourself in a position where you can't be alive in lylo, as you'd be an optimal lynch in that situation. So clear your name or get hanged.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 22 2018 10:40 GMT
#1609
rayn is noobking your #1 scumread now?
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 22 2018 12:34 GMT
#1632
On March 22 2018 20:38 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2018 18:10 Palmar wrote:
My gut says that veteran is both a stupid and weird claim for mafia to make. It's also one of those types of claims that bad townies feel really comfortable revealing, because they don't understand the role of a veteran in the game. Thus if I was forced to bet, I'd bet town on disfo.

That doesn't make it the wrong play to lynch him. He fucked up and should be lynched, and of course there's very much a possibility he's just mafia fakeclaiming a vet.

We should not forget the possibility that he is mafia TRUEclaming vet. There's nothing stopping the mafia from having a vet, so that's something that makes it a little less attractive for having a Role Cop check him.

right yeah, I kinda meant that as a possibility. To me a mafia "fakeclaim" and "trueclaim" are the same thing as both can only be proven by lynching the person involved (I forgot about the possiblity of a role cop, it's not a common role).
Computer says mafia
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 10 11 12 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
The PondCast
10:00
Episode 56
CranKy Ducklings73
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Harstem 504
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 48885
BeSt 3727
Bisu 2828
Jaedong 1913
Flash 1907
Barracks 867
ggaemo 791
EffOrt 747
Mini 684
Soulkey 379
[ Show more ]
firebathero 365
Last 198
Larva 160
hero 126
Snow 107
ToSsGirL 103
Mind 76
TY 61
Soma 59
Hyun 46
[sc1f]eonzerg 44
Free 44
Movie 36
Sharp 34
sSak 30
JYJ27
Yoon 24
sorry 19
Icarus 19
Sacsri 17
soO 17
Bale 14
Hm[arnc] 10
Terrorterran 6
IntoTheRainbow 6
ivOry 5
GuemChi 0
Dota 2
qojqva2634
Gorgc812
XcaliburYe242
KheZu187
420jenkins183
League of Legends
Reynor42
Counter-Strike
ScreaM2339
byalli396
oskar248
markeloff108
kRYSTAL_40
edward38
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox561
Heroes of the Storm
XaKoH 297
Other Games
singsing2315
B2W.Neo949
hiko859
crisheroes386
DeMusliM364
Fuzer 267
Lowko196
QueenE39
Happy35
rGuardiaN30
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 34
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• davetesta171
• StrangeGG 77
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 2792
• WagamamaTV502
League of Legends
• Jankos1169
Upcoming Events
Online Event
2h 39m
Wayne vs ArT
Strange vs Nicoract
Shameless vs GgMaChine
YoungYakov vs MilkiCow
OSC
4h 39m
Cham vs Bunny
ByuN vs TriGGeR
SHIN vs Krystianer
ShoWTimE vs Spirit
WardiTV European League
1d 2h
Korean StarCraft League
1d 13h
CranKy Ducklings
1d 20h
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
1d 22h
Mihu vs QiaoGege
Zhanhun vs Dewalt
Fengzi vs TBD
WardiTV European League
2 days
Online Event
2 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
3 days
Bonyth vs TBD
[ Show More ]
WardiTV European League
3 days
Wardi Open
3 days
OSC
4 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
6 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 20 Non-Korean Championship
FEL Cracow 2025
Underdog Cup #2

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
CC Div. A S7
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025

Upcoming

BSL 21 Qualifiers
ASL Season 20: Qualifier #1
ASL Season 20: Qualifier #2
ASL Season 20
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
BSL Season 21
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
SEL Season 2 Championship
WardiTV Summer 2025
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
HCC Europe
Roobet Cup 2025
Yuqilin POB S2
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.