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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 21 2018 06:03 GMT
#763
On March 21 2018 15:01 Alakaslam wrote:
Mocsta tho why on earth did you claim
for n00bking benefit
he looked bored and I know possibilities excite him.

pretty much truth or dare.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 21 2018 06:08 GMT
#764
im maybe 30% through ExO.

but like.. i dont understand why this Kelsier/Rayn thing was even blown up so badly.

in the sense that.. if kelsier misrepresented Rayn about me.. so what?? like, it should only be this relevant if its scummy to have misrepresented a read on me as the "fucktard" in question

its also striking me how concerned ExO gets when people vote without substantiation (happened twice i believe).
I still dont like the apologetic scum lean on moosy as first post.

hmmmm, worlds are starting to shift.

i also just realised that the joke kelsier made about koshi being vt or scum; is a shit-stir on ExO post about HF being vt or scum
quite funny from kelsier lol
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 21 2018 06:10 GMT
#765
hmmm.
exo explains the relevance a bit later on
"The point I was making was that Keisler looked like he was trying to claim you made a read on mocsta and was agreeing with it, rather than making a read on mocsta on his own."

carry on.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 21 2018 06:32 GMT
#767
Brilliant timing vivax.

i have just finished reading Exo, and was leaning 60/40 him being town.

so some thoughts I would appreciate a second opinion on are:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/532111-classic-mafia?user=ExO_&view=all

(1) #399 reads TvT to me because both are so self-centered and the intensity is so focused. (read: true tunnel)
(2) #436 I dont know why.. but ExO reaction to the VT/scum comment is way too serious that I think its town-tell
(3) left-field rsoultin read is good. Shows willingness to move beyond the whole Kelsier/NK discussion.

however; I dont like
(1) the apologetic moose entrance with no follow up
(2) the continual (for lack of a better phrase) dumb-tell / poor reading comprehension.
Reminds me of how I played dumb with finding a reason to vote prplhz in a recent scum game.
The *KEY* difference why this may be more a town tell is that I was playing dumb to thread influencers as an excuse to wagon a townie. ExO_ is doing this to his scum read, which is probably more indicative of a general tiredness/comprehension given how invested he seems in the game

thoughts?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 21 2018 06:53 GMT
#768
I read through rsoultin.

in some regards, rsoultin does read distant at times, but that could be for a variety of factors.
I have no interest to defend her, but i can't see something that is striking me as shady.

like... I truly dont think a scum!rsoultin would hedge day1 on lynching slam. in particular as a "whisperer"
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 21 2018 06:57 GMT
#769
anyways, sorry slam
i had enough for today, and already 10 pages of filter for ppl to wake up to & i dont want to add anymore.

my vote is sticking with n00bking and i hope yours it too!

big split shenanies should be prevented in unknown setup game.
we need to be able to hold people accountable for voting actions once more informatino is known.


Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 21 2018 07:10 GMT
#771
Palmar,

weird question but how did you start reading the game yesterday?
start to finish?

Also what vibed this response?
On March 20 2018 18:53 Palmar wrote:
noobking is a potential townread as well


This position is corroborated when you downgrade him to null later.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 21 2018 07:22 GMT
#774
On March 21 2018 16:08 Vivax wrote:
399 reads to me like he's hedging period. It doesn't help me as I don't see if he's lying or telling the truth.
436 doesn't read like it's a post that really wants to kill Kelsier with it, so I wouldn't call it serious. It's more like he's reprimanding him but I don't see him getting a scumread from it. Or rather, it doesn't look like ExO displays much of a feeling of having caught Kelsier red handed for something, reinforced by that concluding question.

Reading that gives me the feeling that they are two scum arguing with each other actually. But I'm not going to push that feeling for now when I just have to push for exo.

note to self, I probably should take a look at Kelsier.

And Mocsta I think the reasons for me scumreading ExO should be sufficient to have him recognized as mafia. It pretty much comes down to three of his initial posts iirc. After a weak start that got him attention he's going to be focused on having an active followup and some distancing if he's mafia here.
i think we clearly agree that ExO_ opener was truly bad.

I would be absolutely shocked with kelsier and Exo is S v S, given how organic the shitfest evolved.

The good thing is that I think you are town and have no reason to doubt your intentions.
I do feel you are choosing the worst possible explanations to justify ExO_ behaviour.
Either that, or we focus on different tells to scum hunt - which is also equally possible.

Look, im not hard town!ExO_ by anymeans. But i am not seeing a reason to lynch him over n00bking.

Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 21 2018 07:24 GMT
#775
On March 21 2018 16:18 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2018 08:53 KelsierSC wrote:
yep midnight here too and I need sleep.

I like rayn

early mindmeld from rsoultin was nice but mocstas post was pretty bad , even vivax called it bad and that means im probably on the completely wrong track.


don't like hf , mocsta or darth.

I guess im interested in what exo has to say about me/hf seeing as he asked for context and then hasn't said anything about it. show up son.

if you have been offended in anything I have said so far. lol



I just realized that the bolded is TMI as shit. He literally spews me town here.

Would lynch Kelsier as well today.
Lol..

ohh my my. we operate in such different spectrums lol
On March 21 2018 14:57 Mocsta wrote:
...
Kelsier Again, not seeing how anyone could think is scum.
#184 is such a townie-type regurgitation of active thought.
I think has been quite transparent
Aggression has been consistent, which is certainly more townie given the contextual frustration of ExO comprehension.
.....


I think we need a third opinion !
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 21 2018 07:35 GMT
#777
I dont think jt means you are town

Its more a comment on vivax logic in my opiniin

Meh
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 21 2018 08:05 GMT
#790
Vivax #786
Wtf... its a paraphrase of what i wrote...
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 21 2018 09:33 GMT
#851
Heading out soon

N00b reads better past hour. Aside from awkward exchnage with ykl

I am fearful of lynch shenannies as i cant see any inkling of consensus and no default leadership. Lots of independents.


How about tjis new stone
Lwts talk palmar

Useful filter so far??

Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 21 2018 09:34 GMT
#852
Lol tina

Now that is a mindmeld

On that note
Bye
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 21 2018 09:50 GMT
#861
I have this tell, about game mechanics specific to this
and .. i think the tell is SUPER unlikely to be applicable to mafia

So i thought it applied to FF, but i just double checked and I hate to say this.

ffs... it was a post by slam.

i dunno what to say, i cant consider a vote on him whatsoever this cycle and i dont want to go through the tell.
sorry
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 21 2018 10:18 GMT
#876
Why no palmar talk
Like his first post about koshi struck me

Felt like he already read the game before doing stream by consciousness
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 21 2018 10:23 GMT
#880
On March 21 2018 19:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2018 19:18 Mocsta wrote:
Why no palmar talk
Like his first post about koshi struck me

Felt like he already read the game before doing stream by consciousness

Not sure if you are familiar with later years' Palmar but that isn't alignment indicative at all for him. He just OMGUSed Koshi because Koshi voted for him (aka "kill the player who is trying to kill me" -type of post).

Not familiar but i mean

You think he opened by filtering koshi and then reading game

Im not saying its scummy per say
But fucking strange??
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 21 2018 10:24 GMT
#882
I dont have a hard read on disfo
He reminded me of replacing into vendee but i didnt meta it either

I suppose i coild consolidate there
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 21 2018 10:35 GMT
#887
No no

He commented on koshi which was like page 10 or whatever
Then went back to page 7 day strat and called me and someone else out in a stream of consciousness

Really odd post progression


Im more surprised right now rsoultin mentions palmar as a last resort option but isnt any reasoning or critiquing yours

Im ordering a cab
Phone will be strictly off in a couple
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 21 2018 15:29 GMT
#1017
On March 21 2018 22:10 disformation wrote:
@rels: when you are back can you explain the nk town read you apparently have?
cause i still am not a fan, but fair chance i am biased there.
bad post

I could lynxh fir this regardless of whether i think nk is tiwn ir scum
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 21 2018 15:45 GMT
#1023
Hmmm
7 wines tonight
Really feeling it.

Great for unbiased pattern assessment
Go Ni for the win

So... im disapoointed no one but rayn gave feedback on palmat but hey watevz

I am going to go out ona limb here.
Im the #1 town read this game.
Of xourse this doesnt mean i am right. But at least means tou can trust me and my intent.

A few things in my hazy mind
1. I dont like hf but am not sure if its for scummy eeasons
2. Disinfo with really bad posta. Can completely lynx
4. Im certain rsoultin is town
5. Rels notes is cute but i think is scum. Could lynch over disfo. Too tryhard when under no pressure. Also nkt really canvassing for raoultin lhnch. Reads as fake content.
6. Vivax 16/4 makes some sense.
7. I like rayn this game as a person... this makes me somewhat uneasy lol. I wilk stixk with town. Im just tok uaed to him pissing me off.
8. I syill think n00bking is probable scum. Am goinf to keep vite here.

As long as top 2 wagons ate disfo and n00b i dont care whom is lynch

Good nifht
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