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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 08 2018 22:40 GMT
#1395
DF is a little poe, the votes on him could be distancing. His fight with HF seemed to be just cluttering up the thread with who scum read tina first. Just seemed weird then and weird now. He did mind meld with me somewhat anout the lynch which is whybI am hesitant about this at all.

who thinks df is scum other than his scumread rsoultin?

I talked about disformation earlier how he came into the game instantly spitting reads. A bit wifom but as scum I dont think he would as motivated there. I liked his postings and he seems like his townie self.

this one is okay, i disagree with it though

Rayn is doing his normal thing to me, looking for inconsistoncies while pushing those as scum. Has good follow through. I also agree with his thoughts

who thinks i am town other than Damdred?

Conversion has said a lot of smart things tbh. I like his posts mostly, his fucking off mad and coming back reads like his town game to me also. I just like how he approached the game.

Who thinks Conversion is town?

Why is this a thread summary?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 08 2018 22:47 GMT
#1397
On February 09 2018 07:33 Mocsta wrote:
Damdred something something here
This is a thread summary of arguments everyone else has put up.

You know Mocsta, this post pisses me off quite a bit. It really does. Because your case on rsoultin at the start of D1 was taken off exactly from what i said. I understand you possibly don't realize it but you summarised nothing but my points on her in more words and without knowing the meta. I don't like you calling someone else's post thread summary when half of your D1 was nothing but a fucking thread summary from me and then you voted for mderg for no apparent reason other than "i like Koshi".

So don't do that, regardless of your affiliation, which is btw scum.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 08 2018 22:49 GMT
#1399
On February 09 2018 07:35 disformation wrote:
@rayn:
i think i got distracted by koshi's great ass, or something.
but yeah got nothing of value to post rn so i think ill go to bed for rels now

I would loved if you told me what you were actually thinking but okay, maybe you're mafia then when you can't do that -- as i am not allowed to call rsoultin mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 08 2018 22:49 GMT
#1402
On February 09 2018 07:47 Conversion wrote:
It seems I cannot vote for myself. That is stupid.

You should all lynch me.

you should stop whining and play the game.
please.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 08 2018 22:50 GMT
#1403
read the game or if you cant then sheep someone you think can lynch mafia. it is not that fucking hard.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 08 2018 22:51 GMT
#1404
damdred is town btw.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 08 2018 22:55 GMT
#1406
I actually have a reason to scumread Rels slot regardless of disformation but it is bad and i don't wanna say it.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 08 2018 23:01 GMT
#1413
On February 09 2018 07:58 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2018 07:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 09 2018 07:35 disformation wrote:
@rayn:
i think i got distracted by koshi's great ass, or something.
but yeah got nothing of value to post rn so i think ill go to bed for rels now

I would loved if you told me what you were actually thinking but okay, maybe you're mafia then when you can't do that -- as i am not allowed to call rsoultin mafia.

*shrugs*
think i picked trfel as my first person to look at cause I didnt remember anything from skimming at work. saw some stuff about conversion convincing him to switch his read on rs. looked at conversion. saw conversions part with @mderg. posted about that.

other than that i was just throwing around ideas. in my mind i think i did look at vote stuff a bit, but didnt end up getting anywhere with that, which is why i stopped. yeah stuff like:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2018 06:51 disformation wrote:
ritoky afks his vote on mderg fairly early in the day. says we could default lynch him instead for shennies. dont think that is likely to come from scum.
hf was hammer on scum. and even if both wagons are scum i think a scum!hf would have played this day differently.

outside of that it is a bit hard to tell imo. kinda depends on whether rsoultin is really scum or not.

Show nested quote +
On February 08 2018 06:53 disformation wrote:
possible that scum was commited on a wagon and couldnt figure out how to switch without looking bad.

Show nested quote +
On February 08 2018 07:09 disformation wrote:
On February 08 2018 06:57 darthfoley wrote:
On February 08 2018 06:53 disformation wrote:
possible that scum was commited on a wagon and couldnt figure out how to switch without looking bad.


indeed

mderg (5):: ritoky, Mocsta, trfel, Koshi, Holyflare
rsoultin (4): Conversion, darthfoley, raynpelikoneet, Damdred
Trfel (1): prplhz
darthfoley (2): mderg, rsoultin

Not Voting (1): Rels

ritoky as explained.
trfel did some waffling, so he could have made it onto either wagon imo.
koshi's eod seems to make sense.
holyflare as explained.
prplhz didnt give a fuck. so prolly not him either.
conv did some waffling, so he could have switched too.

rest i need to look at again


looks fairly straightforward to me

Wel lyou didn't answer anything since the first quote in my post clearly says you want to look at people who were on rsoultin. Then you did something else and now you tell how you ended up from there to somewhere else.

Aka you never say why you, after saying you wanna look at the other wagon, didn't actually do so but did something else instead.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 08 2018 23:02 GMT
#1416
On February 09 2018 07:59 darthfoley wrote:
Also I don't underestimate rayn's QT post to be accurate. It would actually be quite the clever play

What do you mean by this?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 08 2018 23:07 GMT
#1422
On February 09 2018 08:06 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2018 08:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 09 2018 07:59 darthfoley wrote:
Also I don't underestimate rayn's QT post to be accurate. It would actually be quite the clever play

What do you mean by this?


Your observation on the impossible conversion emo vig play. I think it's a sick point but maybe too high level.

I still don't understand why he got so ragey after he was accused by like...two players.

rofl. are you seriously using this as anything? :D
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 08 2018 23:08 GMT
#1423
On February 09 2018 08:07 Mocsta wrote:
If town!rsoultin legitimately thought mderg was town at the time, I can make sense of those actions.

The main issue I had was the rsoultin progression, because prior she was considering mderg scum.
This is why I asked her about it; but I think its completely legit that in the heat of the DF/HF bragging argument, she tilted leading to the actions that took place.

this smells like bullshit.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 08 2018 23:09 GMT
#1425
On February 09 2018 08:04 Mocsta wrote:

I laid bomb on <b>Rayn</b>

very good you bombed the pgo so that's 1-1. the joke is old dude...
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 08 2018 23:10 GMT
#1426
On February 09 2018 08:04 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2018 08:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 09 2018 07:58 disformation wrote:
On February 09 2018 07:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 09 2018 07:35 disformation wrote:
@rayn:
i think i got distracted by koshi's great ass, or something.
but yeah got nothing of value to post rn so i think ill go to bed for rels now

I would loved if you told me what you were actually thinking but okay, maybe you're mafia then when you can't do that -- as i am not allowed to call rsoultin mafia.

*shrugs*
think i picked trfel as my first person to look at cause I didnt remember anything from skimming at work. saw some stuff about conversion convincing him to switch his read on rs. looked at conversion. saw conversions part with @mderg. posted about that.

other than that i was just throwing around ideas. in my mind i think i did look at vote stuff a bit, but didnt end up getting anywhere with that, which is why i stopped. yeah stuff like:
On February 08 2018 06:51 disformation wrote:
ritoky afks his vote on mderg fairly early in the day. says we could default lynch him instead for shennies. dont think that is likely to come from scum.
hf was hammer on scum. and even if both wagons are scum i think a scum!hf would have played this day differently.

outside of that it is a bit hard to tell imo. kinda depends on whether rsoultin is really scum or not.

On February 08 2018 06:53 disformation wrote:
possible that scum was commited on a wagon and couldnt figure out how to switch without looking bad.

On February 08 2018 07:09 disformation wrote:
On February 08 2018 06:57 darthfoley wrote:
On February 08 2018 06:53 disformation wrote:
possible that scum was commited on a wagon and couldnt figure out how to switch without looking bad.


indeed

mderg (5):: ritoky, Mocsta, trfel, Koshi, Holyflare
rsoultin (4): Conversion, darthfoley, raynpelikoneet, Damdred
Trfel (1): prplhz
darthfoley (2): mderg, rsoultin

Not Voting (1): Rels

ritoky as explained.
trfel did some waffling, so he could have made it onto either wagon imo.
koshi's eod seems to make sense.
holyflare as explained.
prplhz didnt give a fuck. so prolly not him either.
conv did some waffling, so he could have switched too.

rest i need to look at again


looks fairly straightforward to me

Wel lyou didn't answer anything since the first quote in my post clearly says you want to look at people who were on rsoultin. Then you did something else and now you tell how you ended up from there to somewhere else.

Aka you never say why you, after saying you wanna look at the other wagon, didn't actually do so but did something else instead.

hmm... i think i ended up looking at why trfel switched off rs instead.
probably cause i wanted to.

yeah you probably wanted to do that instead what you said you wanted to do.
seems good.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 08 2018 23:12 GMT
#1428
On February 09 2018 08:04 darthfoley wrote:
Also for the 40th time that "I believe" thing has been misunderstood and is in no way a slip.

So what did you mean by it?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 08 2018 23:14 GMT
#1429
On February 09 2018 08:12 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2018 07:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 09 2018 07:33 Mocsta wrote:
Damdred something something here
This is a thread summary of arguments everyone else has put up.

You know Mocsta, this post pisses me off quite a bit. It really does. Because your case on rsoultin at the start of D1 was taken off exactly from what i said. I understand you possibly don't realize it but you summarised nothing but my points on her in more words and without knowing the meta. I don't like you calling someone else's post thread summary when half of your D1 was nothing but a fucking thread summary from me and then you voted for mderg for no apparent reason other than "i like Koshi".

So don't do that, regardless of your affiliation, which is btw scum.
You are 1 vote of 11. you know the rest of the story.

Sure i do. But i don't care. I just tell who i think is mafia and then i am right or wrong. That's probably something you didn't know about me because that has changed since you have last played with me.

Unfortunately i am not alloed to call my other scumread scum so you just have to deal with me calling you scum.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 08 2018 23:15 GMT
#1430
can you answer my post where i told you damdred's reads are not what you said they are?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 08 2018 23:18 GMT
#1433
On February 09 2018 08:16 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2018 08:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 09 2018 08:04 disformation wrote:
On February 09 2018 08:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 09 2018 07:58 disformation wrote:
On February 09 2018 07:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 09 2018 07:35 disformation wrote:
@rayn:
i think i got distracted by koshi's great ass, or something.
but yeah got nothing of value to post rn so i think ill go to bed for rels now

I would loved if you told me what you were actually thinking but okay, maybe you're mafia then when you can't do that -- as i am not allowed to call rsoultin mafia.

*shrugs*
think i picked trfel as my first person to look at cause I didnt remember anything from skimming at work. saw some stuff about conversion convincing him to switch his read on rs. looked at conversion. saw conversions part with @mderg. posted about that.

other than that i was just throwing around ideas. in my mind i think i did look at vote stuff a bit, but didnt end up getting anywhere with that, which is why i stopped. yeah stuff like:
On February 08 2018 06:51 disformation wrote:
ritoky afks his vote on mderg fairly early in the day. says we could default lynch him instead for shennies. dont think that is likely to come from scum.
hf was hammer on scum. and even if both wagons are scum i think a scum!hf would have played this day differently.

outside of that it is a bit hard to tell imo. kinda depends on whether rsoultin is really scum or not.

On February 08 2018 06:53 disformation wrote:
possible that scum was commited on a wagon and couldnt figure out how to switch without looking bad.

On February 08 2018 07:09 disformation wrote:
On February 08 2018 06:57 darthfoley wrote:
On February 08 2018 06:53 disformation wrote:
possible that scum was commited on a wagon and couldnt figure out how to switch without looking bad.


indeed

mderg (5):: ritoky, Mocsta, trfel, Koshi, Holyflare
rsoultin (4): Conversion, darthfoley, raynpelikoneet, Damdred
Trfel (1): prplhz
darthfoley (2): mderg, rsoultin

Not Voting (1): Rels

ritoky as explained.
trfel did some waffling, so he could have made it onto either wagon imo.
koshi's eod seems to make sense.
holyflare as explained.
prplhz didnt give a fuck. so prolly not him either.
conv did some waffling, so he could have switched too.

rest i need to look at again


looks fairly straightforward to me

Wel lyou didn't answer anything since the first quote in my post clearly says you want to look at people who were on rsoultin. Then you did something else and now you tell how you ended up from there to somewhere else.

Aka you never say why you, after saying you wanna look at the other wagon, didn't actually do so but did something else instead.

hmm... i think i ended up looking at why trfel switched off rs instead.
probably cause i wanted to.

yeah you probably wanted to do that instead what you said you wanted to do.
seems good.

yeah, but why is that a problem?

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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 08 2018 23:20 GMT
#1437
On February 09 2018 08:18 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2018 08:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 09 2018 08:04 darthfoley wrote:
Also for the 40th time that "I believe" thing has been misunderstood and is in no way a slip.

So what did you mean by it?


I know I am Town

I believe the points you made were wrong = in my opinion, your arguments are not valid

Sometimes you can understand why someone accusing you. I thought your accusations were just false. They were subjective reasons that I disagreed with

But if you are town and you think i am mafia then you KNOW i am wrong.
If you BELIEVE i am wrong i am not sure you can tell )from that) if i am mafia or not.
If you had not called me mafia for it i would have been totally okay with it but as you did you MUST KNOW my points are wrong, not just believe.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 08 2018 23:24 GMT
#1440
you're
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 08 2018 23:26 GMT
#1442
On February 09 2018 08:23 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2018 08:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 09 2018 08:07 Mocsta wrote:
If town!rsoultin legitimately thought mderg was town at the time, I can make sense of those actions.

The main issue I had was the rsoultin progression, because prior she was considering mderg scum.
This is why I asked her about it; but I think its completely legit that in the heat of the DF/HF bragging argument, she tilted leading to the actions that took place.

this smells like bullshit.
Rayn, at least have the courtesy to show full context instead of trimming my post

"Why.. EoD 1 in the last game, town Damdred (wagon leader) refused to vote his town reads, and basically threw his vote away IIRC (or perhaps put it on DF, who wasnt a town read regardless)."

There is no context in what you posted in addition to that because rsoultin is not Damdred.
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