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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 08 2018 10:42 GMT
#1186
Because noone seemed to believe me it makes him mafia and i needed to leave.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 08 2018 10:48 GMT
#1187
On February 08 2018 19:41 rsoultin wrote:
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On February 08 2018 19:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 08 2018 19:31 rsoultin wrote:
Prp was never in danger of being lynched.

Votewise correct. Thread sentiment doesn't suggest so.

Yes it does. You should read it

So what? is he scum then?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 08 2018 10:53 GMT
#1192
On February 08 2018 19:48 rsoultin wrote:
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On February 08 2018 19:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Furthermore, here is what i saw at the eod. Correct me if i am wrong as i was speedreading whenever i got a chance during work. Lynches were rsoultin or mderg. prplhz was thrown in as a third option. I personally thought prplhz was actaully in some kind of danger (like he had as many votes or close to rsoul/mderg) of getting lynched. The reason (Koshi mentioned this) i said i think prplhz is town in a post close to deadline is because i had actually no clue where the votes are and prplhz brought up shennies which i find to be dumb as scum (as i read mderg as town) since from my perspective the shennies would most likely end up on him. He could have just voted for mderg for some random reason (yes, he tends to do that -- i know it from experience, as mafia).

Another thing is that noone was really pushing anything over rsoultin, other than mderg. Which is why i also find it more likely that rsoultin is mafia too. There was mderg -- rsoultin -- (prplhz). Which mafia team doesn't do anything in this situation in case only mderg is mafia? If we exclude prplhz why don't mafia vote for rsoultin or try to get her lynched instead? The only reasons in case rsoultin is town are semi-afk mafia at the time (rels slot, and i have to check on conv,ritoky,mocsta and damdred) or there is already a bus and crossed fingers (mocsta, possibly ritoky -- i don't believe anyone else here is bussing). But i don't find this scenario more likely than just that rsoultin is mafia, based on both mderg's and rsoultin's actions at the deadline.

Koshi is quite obviously town.

Trfel is quite obviously town.

prplhz i talked about earlier, town.

I believe darthfoley would have pushed rsoultin lynch more near the deadline in case he was mafia, if he is mafia with rsoultin the whole mafia teams play during whole D1 doesn't make any fucking sense at all so the only conclusion i can come to is that he is town.

ritoky voted for mderg so he gets a pass for now.

Holyflare could technically be scum if rsoultin is scum but i don't really believe D1 would have ended in a mafia lynch in case Holyflare is mafia, and he also voted for mderg, so town.

Mocsta slipped, probably scum. Could bus. Already did so (although softly) last game.

disformation nothing to say here.

Damdred and Conversion. Conversion's tone sounds townie but idk if to trust that. Also Koshi i think made a decent case. Idk, tone says town, hard evidence says mafia. Damdred could be anything.

I'd still roll with rsoultin and Mocsta.

For all these pretty words your scumreads still amount to 1)retarded double mafia suicide instead of bussing for cred and 2)some guy posted <b> code instead of using brackets.

And instead of engaging me when I'm being perfectly civil to try to rule you out, since I'm more suspicious of df anyway, you flip your top and saying I'm saying all kinds of things that I'm not.

Your read on mderg was objectively bad. Own it.

I own my shit.

Well then you probably tried to do a retarded townie suicide over mafia.

Remains to be seen.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 08 2018 10:54 GMT
#1193
Your sig tells the truth Tina.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 08 2018 10:58 GMT
#1197
On February 08 2018 19:56 rsoultin wrote:
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On February 08 2018 19:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Because noone seemed to believe me it makes him mafia and i needed to leave.

Well, it didn't. Fine, I guess. It just seemed like it was in response to my post, where I actually agreed on your read independently of, well your reasons.

So it was confusing as shit.

Your scumreads are super lazy though. Not to mention probably 100% wrong.

I am confused by this because yes, if darthfoley is scum like you suggest it does make him mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 08 2018 11:00 GMT
#1199
On February 08 2018 17:49 rsoultin wrote:
Also kinda liking prp.

Yes very well thought out read, i can make a lot out of that.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 08 2018 11:01 GMT
#1200
On February 08 2018 19:59 ritoky wrote:
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On February 08 2018 18:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 08 2018 06:50 Mocsta wrote:
On February 08 2018 06:46 ritoky wrote:
casually lynching mafia on my birthday.

framer implies cop. cop should be on rsoul, green gives us 6 or 7 confirmed. red gives us 2 mafia in 2 days; both are pretty unlosable scenarios.

gonna try to finish my nap before birthday dinner, cya tomorrow.

Love it

<b>bomb: damdred</b>

uh oh... now i kinda think you're mafia.
you've done this before when you write into mafia qt and then come to thread and forget which tags to use.


this is a pretty sick read if true.

it is true.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 08 2018 11:13 GMT
#1213
On February 08 2018 20:09 rsoultin wrote:
I actually think scumming with mocsta would be super fun. All kinds of crazy shit going down.

I believe you, like this game.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 08 2018 11:22 GMT
#1217
On February 08 2018 20:18 Mocsta wrote:
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On February 08 2018 19:53 rsoultin wrote:
On February 08 2018 19:41 Mocsta wrote:
@tina

I still think your reasons to town read rayn are poor.

You are essentially stating he is a terrible townie that is subject to tunneling.

The thing is, you should re-read the post the rayn post below.. this was the first post that made me iffy about rayn; and of course, the whole mderg sequence of events seals the deal.

For your reference, this type of mindset of how he addresses me is not very townie (or tunneled).
Its why i asked later if he is this self-centered.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/530739-vendée-globe-16-mafia?page=10#197

...Lol. I wouldn't use those words exactly but yes Joni and I fundamentally disagree on what makes people scum. Self-centered reads are kind of his thing. That and things like inconsistencies.

What is it about you that you find weird in his post?

I honestly do believe that he could scumread me just for being dismissive toward him as town.
Well firstly, i take issue with the conversion town read. Lack of basis behind it and completely irrelevant to the main content of the post.. Its nitpicking but that should have been split off as a second post. Its like he wants that specifically in his filter, but to blend in.

Then when talking to. hes addressing me in an odd way. Hes buttering me up, suggesting he town reads me and wants to let me down easy by saying, your case is crap! e.g. "you havent played much with tina so it makes sense you make a case like that"... for me this is totally illogical. a good point is a good point regardless of whom.
So when he proceeds to continue the exact same points im getting alarm bells that this is non-genuine behaviour.
see.. I think a town tunneled rayn would be more than happy i was riding the same direction.. whereas this scum!rayn is trying his best to accentuate his townish traits.

Further, the item about damdred is stupid because as i pointed out prior, he answered the question for damdred, so the whole exchange is useless.
The ritoky thing is acceptable to discuss, but not worthy of a scum read.

Very good Mocsta. This sounds like a decent scumread, i am happy you pursued this D1 as all this information was in the thread at the time.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 08 2018 11:26 GMT
#1218
I might not post anything for the next 50 hrs and just see what happens.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 08 2018 14:19 GMT
#1259
On February 08 2018 22:47 Conversion wrote:
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On February 08 2018 22:37 disformation wrote:
On February 08 2018 22:11 Conversion wrote:
Assuming Mocsta is the real mad hatter, I will die by next day.

I am of the mindset that there is one mafia in Damdred/rayn/prplhz, and one mafia outside of it. Two mafia makes the game too easy, and mderg cruise controlled to make rsoultin and I look bad. Good play EoD on his end with how the lynch played out, although I still believe that saving himself would have bought more time as mafia.

Game looks way too easy as it seems if the entire mafia pool was in the three I mentioned above, but maybe I will be wrong and town will have an easy victory.

any specific reasons for damdy/rayn/prpl?
who would be your top pick for the scum outside of those 3?


Damd/prpl for general lack of interest in doing much in the game and filters. Mostly gut feeling. Rayn’s thrown in there after PoE on who I think is town.

Outside of that I’d have to think more critically since most of these people were on the mderg train. You’d be up there though, since Rels slot. I’ll have to observe how D2 goes if I’m alive to really flesh more reads out, but I really don’t want to and I hope I get shot here if we have a town vigilante.
how did you poe im french rels as town?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 08 2018 14:46 GMT
#1266
Koshi. Can you do something for me. See where conversion voted. Because anyone who voted for rsoultin D1 there is (regardless of what you think):
- zero reason to believe she cannot be mafia with mderg
- zero reason to think i am mafia by poe
- zero reason to think darthfoley is less likely to be mafia than i am
- zero reason to think disformation is anything so far

Please think about it a little. I promise you i am not mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 08 2018 14:47 GMT
#1267
On February 08 2018 23:39 Conversion wrote:
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On February 08 2018 23:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 08 2018 22:47 Conversion wrote:
On February 08 2018 22:37 disformation wrote:
On February 08 2018 22:11 Conversion wrote:
Assuming Mocsta is the real mad hatter, I will die by next day.

I am of the mindset that there is one mafia in Damdred/rayn/prplhz, and one mafia outside of it. Two mafia makes the game too easy, and mderg cruise controlled to make rsoultin and I look bad. Good play EoD on his end with how the lynch played out, although I still believe that saving himself would have bought more time as mafia.

Game looks way too easy as it seems if the entire mafia pool was in the three I mentioned above, but maybe I will be wrong and town will have an easy victory.

any specific reasons for damdy/rayn/prpl?
who would be your top pick for the scum outside of those 3?


Damd/prpl for general lack of interest in doing much in the game and filters. Mostly gut feeling. Rayn’s thrown in there after PoE on who I think is town.

Outside of that I’d have to think more critically since most of these people were on the mderg train. You’d be up there though, since Rels slot. I’ll have to observe how D2 goes if I’m alive to really flesh more reads out, but I really don’t want to and I hope I get shot here if we have a town vigilante.
how did you poe im french rels as town?


I'm not including Rels' rather ridiculous one post as town, I am reading disinformation's take and approach on the game so far.

Right. But i am scum by poe (when there is only 2 mafia left) but disfo isnt and then you dont really townread him either.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 08 2018 15:02 GMT
#1272
On February 08 2018 23:59 Damdred wrote:
Im up for lynch tommorow yay i guess?

idk what to think disf and rayn can both generally read me well. Rayn i take it you have read all of eod and night so far?

Yeah. I dont thibk youre mafia tbh.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 08 2018 15:12 GMT
#1274
On February 08 2018 23:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi. Can you do something for me. See where conversion voted. Because anyone who voted for rsoultin D1 there is (regardless of what you think):
- zero reason to believe she cannot be mafia with mderg
- zero reason to think i am mafia by poe
- zero reason to think darthfoley is less likely to be mafia than i am
- zero reason to think disformation is anything so far

Please think about it a little. I promise you i am not mafia.

I will rephrase this. A person who voted for rsoultin D1 cannot possibly think i could be scum but either of df / rels slot isnt. You can think all of us equally are if you are an idiot and magically think rsoultin is now town for no reason (which you shouldnt), but not one over others.

So basically Conversion isnt doing any thinking, just following thread sentiment.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 08 2018 15:13 GMT
#1275
Reminder for myaelf to check if disformation asks retarded questions as town too.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 08 2018 15:22 GMT
#1278
Idk whish is worse, disfo asking a guy who gave 3 scumreads when 2 mafia left who is his 4th scumread or conversion actually answering it....
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 08 2018 15:37 GMT
#1292
Ah right.. i am back to mocsta + rsoultin.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 08 2018 15:38 GMT
#1294
On February 09 2018 00:35 Koshi wrote:
@rayn.
When rsoultin is town. DF can be mafia right? Because in you mind df is only cleared because mderg/rsoultin voted him.

Can you elaborate on the df read? Just give me the different bullet points.

I dont understand why a mafia would vote for df instead of rsoultin in that situation if df was mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 08 2018 15:45 GMT
#1299
We'll see. Mocsta slipped anyways.
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