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On February 07 2018 18:22 Holyflare wrote:
ALSO if ritoky found out that koshi calls him mafia as mafia a lot but not as town and only just discovered that then why isn't he now attributing being scum read as mafia koshi?
I have a personal interest in this matter because i have a tendency of 100% misreading ritoky's alignment (unless he is SK lol ^^). That's the thing that caught me in the first place, wh ywas he so obsessed with Koshi's read but not mine? Like fucking last game i remember playing with him he made a 100% case on a 100% mafia and i decided to not doc him because i still thought he was mafia.
Why Koshi? Why not me?
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On February 07 2018 18:26 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 18:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Mocsta is voting for you Tina so idk what you're talking about. He's lining up for a shift, or are you blind today, lol?
It's because i don't see the point doing so if you're town and he is mafia. He has a case. People agree (at least on the lynch).
But yeah, i will stop bothering you, do your thing.
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can you tell me what you mean with fluid?
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als owhich reads of him are "fluid" and why?
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Tina i assume you're caught up with the thread is that right?
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On February 07 2018 18:42 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 18:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
can you tell me what you mean with fluid? It's a little hard to describe. It's how I caught Damerion, though. It's not just changing reads on an individual, but also just changing reads based on new information in the thread. I'm not saying that ritoky is really hard-pushing anything (that was what I thought was scummy the first time through) but I am saying that his view of the game is shifting with new information. I generally find that towny.
I generally agree with the statement but when your reads start at bullshit level 10 it is easy to change them to reasonable level 1.
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On February 07 2018 18:44 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 18:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Tina i assume you're caught up with the thread is that right? No, I'm filter diving. Is there something you wanted me to comment on?
darthfoley
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Actually no i dnot care about anything other than this.
Who were you fiter diving Tina? which ppl and why?
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On February 07 2018 18:47 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 18:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:On February 07 2018 18:42 rsoultin wrote:On February 07 2018 18:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
can you tell me what you mean with fluid? It's a little hard to describe. It's how I caught Damerion, though. It's not just changing reads on an individual, but also just changing reads based on new information in the thread. I'm not saying that ritoky is really hard-pushing anything (that was what I thought was scummy the first time through) but I am saying that his view of the game is shifting with new information. I generally find that towny. I generally agree with the statement but when your reads start at bullshit level 10 it is easy to change them to reasonable level 1. What reads did you think were bullshit from ritoky?
read on you
read on koshi
read on damdred
read on trfel
all of those were in my opinion based on superficial things that dont make anyone anything (and the koshi read wasnt even a read which made me think he isnt even doing anything or does not want to)
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no, i think this is right.
#unvote
##vote darthfoley
the dude scumreads me for the same reasons he townread me earlier. it is so fucking terrible it has to be mafia. idk, rsoulting can be mafia too but this is just too unbelieveable.
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darthfoley is mafia nad i encourage everyone to vote for him.
please.
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On February 07 2018 08:12 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 08:08 ritoky wrote:
df what made you go from liking rayn to not liking rayn? I started to think about how his comparison of my last game (I was scum) and this game is not accurate. He followed closely in the obs last game and I believe the points he made in this game about me were wrong. There have also been many whisperings of scum DF so it's the type of read I could see a mafia making to blend in with the crowd and see if it's worth pursuing later. Plus he wrote a fucking essay on rsoultin saying like two sentences. See my Mocsta irritation
this is a 100% mafia post for 2 reasons.
first on is he "believes" i am wrong. :D
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i am town, the guy calls me mafia, i believe the points are wrong.
second thing; for the time df has been playing on tl i have been playing in the same way. i make overexplained posts because i got fed up noone ever beliveing me whether i was right or wrong. It's just fucking bullshit to say i am scum because i (or mocsta) explain(s) stuff in detail. "Blending in" is just a bs thing, joke. I don't "blend in" as mafia which is something df definitely knows. Also this is not blending in. It is a narrative he invented to suit his agenda.
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On February 07 2018 19:05 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 19:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
no, i think this is right.
#unvote
##vote darthfoley
the dude scumreads me for the same reasons he townread me earlier. it is so fucking terrible it has to be mafia. idk, rsoulting can be mafia too but this is just too unbelieveable. no. not a suitable day1 vote. Damdred all the way I am also at the point of wanting to read a prplhz scum game againi dont like at all he predicted town rayn/rsoultin early on.
now you are getting bad points for doing something that hasn't anything to do with alignments.
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If you wanna lynch someone else than DF i am infroming you you are gonna do it without me.
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if you think someone is mafia you dont believe he is wrong, you believe he is bullshitting the shit out of you and other ppl.
case closed.
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On February 07 2018 19:20 Mocsta wrote:
If you wanna lynch someone else than DF i am infroming you you are gonna do it without me. and.. you are 1 vote of 13. get used to ppl not sucking you off.
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nah i am jsut saying my vote is not changing.
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On February 07 2018 19:21 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 08:59 darthfoley wrote:On February 07 2018 08:54 Mocsta wrote:On February 07 2018 08:49 darthfoley wrote:On February 07 2018 08:36 Mocsta wrote:
Minor stream of consciousness incoming.
I am in the process of re-evaluating where my Day1 vote should go.
Maintaining on rsoultin pros:
1 - I expected her to brush off the case - but attempt to discern my motive further. Instead, IIRC she called me scum and then town for an absolutely stupid reaction test reason.
2 - The wagon hasnt picked up that much traction - which is a good Day1 heuristic to me. Mafia try to resist unfavourable wagons. At this point, Conversion is not a wagon.
Maintaining rsoultin cons:
1 - Ironically, that people are starting to see her as scum (for the same fucking reasons I posted). This makes me twitchy.
2 - I do need to give more credit that early game it is hard to work with people to illuminate reads. That component of my case should be reconsidered.
Some short thoughts on people with ritoky scale
Damdred: -5. I am considering him the best Day1 lynch option.
mderg: -2. subject to a meta dive. I never thought he was sitting in the background being a sheep last game. I dont have that vibe association with him this game.
df: +1 on ritoky scale (and continuing to drop as he continues his rigid thinking)
rsoultin: need to re-read game to confirm position.
conversion: I do see a general lack of care, but i dont see it mafia focused either - and nothing to do with rsoultin. I just dont think mafia would be so blatant about glossing over filters etc.. I am really inclined to default to SK.
other people I dont have a direct concern about at this point. So you're now saying that "1 post" Damdred is the best lynch option after going after rsoultin hardcore all day phase? Now that reminds me of Mocsta vs. darthfoley last game Again. why jump to worst-conclusions. Im saying im considering it because I dont like people are joining me on rsoultin for my reasons - but treating it as their own.The fact that multiple people are doing it, is the only thing that makes me comfortable (as in it indicates i communicated very poorly, vs. malicious intent). Pray tell me though. Do you see anything towny about damdred so far? Flu or not. Very delayed response that says extermely little. Even his first post last game was better. I'm not jumping to worst conclusions. I just don't see why you decide Damdred is the best lynch, but Rels, for example, isn't. Or prplhz or Mderg. Do you see anything town about Rels so far? Damdred was lynchbait last game and I haven't seen anything incriminating from him. Regarding the bold. I'm not sure I understand... you're paranoid that other people are joining you on rsoultin but trying to claim credit for your reasoning. So... 1) When rsoultin flips mafia, you don't look as good? 2) When rsoultin flips town... they look worse? I don't understand the motivation for mafia to join a wagon on town!rsoultin but try to steal the credit for the mislynch. Why make themselves look worse when they could just take the easy route and blame you? This post is good rayn. Depends on how red our lynchbait people are. But the post is good.
It really isn't. I don't know why you think it is.
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Mocsta maybe said something stupid why does it make him mafia and why does df pointing out stupid make him town?
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