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On December 15 2017 22:29 VisceraEyes wrote: You're not acting like town Palmar. You're acting crazy, and it's just making me want to lynch you. There is no correlation between my alignment and my multiple personality disorder.
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On December 15 2017 22:32 VisceraEyes wrote: It's normal. Isn't it?
I could have sworn it was.
I KNOW it is on MafiaScum, and I THOUGHT it was on TL. fairly sure TL would never consider it normal. We basically never have those because we all agree they're a terrible role.
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and TL has enough trolls without manufacturing them through roles.
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On December 15 2017 22:28 prplhz wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2017 22:13 Palmar wrote:On December 15 2017 22:12 VisceraEyes wrote: Do you envision a world in which you win against me in a similar situation Palmar? I have won as 3p but can't remember if you were in the game. I'm not 3p or mafia this game. I'm strictly town. Caller games where Brazil nukes the earth from orbit don't count. Anyway, I'm absolutely not feeling this Palmar lynch, will be back later (unlikely) or tomorrow (less unlikely). You need to convince the rest of them.
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On December 15 2017 22:27 VisceraEyes wrote: He's acting like a Jester. He knows that post directed at me will cement my vote on him. Why? Is there a hole in my logic?
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On December 15 2017 22:32 Eversince wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2017 06:57 Palmar wrote:On December 15 2017 06:49 Kmatt wrote:On December 15 2017 06:46 Holyflare wrote:On December 15 2017 06:31 Conversion wrote: HF you still stuck to the idea that I am scum? I haven't called you mafia since the start of n1? I also based my scum reads on people calling you town. You. What is your power, and what were the results? basically I check 3 people in one night, I know I get one false result (as in I know it's wrong), one true result (I know it's right) and one random result (as in it could be either right or wrong). It's alignment only. fake.
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On December 15 2017 22:32 prplhz wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2017 22:27 Palmar wrote: The only problem I have with a tracker claim is why on earth is there a godfather on mafia then. Maybe Godfather can deliver kill without getting tracked or watched or maybe there is some sort of cop in the game too. There is no cop in the game, it's even unlikely that there is both a tracker and a medic in addition to the vigilante.
A tracker is a weird claim, but yes there have been godfathers who can't be tracked (sometimes also called ghosts or ninjas). If the KP is delivered it was 100% delivered by the godfather.
I don't know why Eversince claimed, it was a terrible claim and quite possibly triggered by the fact that I noticed he was talking about delivered KP. I think most normal games just have a factional mafia KP, but I'm unsure what the trends are these days.
That being said, I'm conflicted on Eversince right now, especially as he has basically no follow up play to his claim as mafia, so I'm inclined to believe him, but it's weak. I have no idea if VE is actually medic but lying about it or not he's probably not mafia.
So I'm looking at HF now as the most likely mafia remaining.
Chez also needs to get in here and start doing work.
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On December 15 2017 22:37 Eversince wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2017 22:34 Koshi wrote: The SK makes it likely town has something against that. So the tracker makes sense.
This makes HF and Eversince confirmed not SK. I don't think there is a SK. I tracked HF because he;s just to good to be as 'meh' as I found him. He survived buy didn't go to anyone and OATS/Grack are now dead. So unless mafia have a 5'th to carry dp, HF is not mafia. If your claim is true, Grack is 100% a godfather that avoids all detection (cop/track/watch) and thus he was the one delivering the kill last night. So it says nothing about hf.
If KP is delivered and mafia has a godfather that can deliver them safely, there is no way they'd ever not send that guy with the kill.
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On December 15 2017 22:41 Eversince wrote: To me; It it 100 percent Palmar. His role makes no sense in the sense that there has been 'generic RB' 'Generic GF' 'Generic vig' and me as 'generic tracker'. His role is total bologna. And we should lynch him. If there is a SK in the game you guys are on your own because I will probably get killed tonight. Remember when I called you an illiterate fool?
This is why.
I have no role, no role. I've never claimed having a role. I am a VT.
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On December 15 2017 22:42 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2017 22:41 Palmar wrote:On December 15 2017 22:37 Eversince wrote:On December 15 2017 22:34 Koshi wrote: The SK makes it likely town has something against that. So the tracker makes sense.
This makes HF and Eversince confirmed not SK. I don't think there is a SK. I tracked HF because he;s just to good to be as 'meh' as I found him. He survived buy didn't go to anyone and OATS/Grack are now dead. So unless mafia have a 5'th to carry dp, HF is not mafia. If your claim is true, Grack is 100% a godfather that avoids all detection (cop/track/watch) and thus he was the one delivering the kill last night. So it says nothing about hf. If KP is delivered and mafia has a godfather that can deliver them safely, there is no way they'd ever not send that guy with the kill. It says HF is not the SK. No it doesn't, his conclusion is that HF is not mafia, which cannot be concluded from the information at hand.
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On December 15 2017 22:33 VisceraEyes wrote: If not then good, I can just stay on Palmar.
Palmar you need to either act like town or....whatever, I don't care what you do if you aren't going to act like town. I am acting like town, I'm literally the only person in here acting like town.
On one hand we have a bunch of people who are voting me for literally no reason, and on the other we have me arguing we should be finding the last mafia, AND contributing to actually figuring out who the last mafia is.
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On December 15 2017 22:43 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2017 22:42 Palmar wrote:On December 15 2017 22:41 Eversince wrote: To me; It it 100 percent Palmar. His role makes no sense in the sense that there has been 'generic RB' 'Generic GF' 'Generic vig' and me as 'generic tracker'. His role is total bologna. And we should lynch him. If there is a SK in the game you guys are on your own because I will probably get killed tonight. Remember when I called you an illiterate fool? This is why. I have no role, no role. I've never claimed having a role. I am a VT. And this is why I'm going to lynch you today - because you're doing shit like saying you didn't say shit you really did say.
On December 15 2017 22:05 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2017 22:01 VisceraEyes wrote:On December 14 2017 07:11 Palmar wrote: I claim cop.
100% hardclaim. On December 14 2017 07:11 Palmar wrote: if I back out, lynch me. I'm just doing as I'm told. I cannot be held responsible for what my other personalities do.
On December 15 2017 22:33 Palmar wrote: There is no correlation between my alignment and my multiple personality disorder.
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On December 15 2017 22:45 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2017 22:44 Palmar wrote:On December 15 2017 22:33 VisceraEyes wrote: If not then good, I can just stay on Palmar.
Palmar you need to either act like town or....whatever, I don't care what you do if you aren't going to act like town. I am acting like town, I'm literally the only person in here acting like town. On one hand we have a bunch of people who are voting me for literally no reason, and on the other we have me arguing we should be finding the last mafia, AND contributing to actually figuring out who the last mafia is. It should be obvious that yesterday I already PoE'ed you mafia. And it should be obvious if I was any kind of a killing role I'd have murdered you. Even as town vigilante I'd have shot you just to spite you.
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On December 15 2017 22:45 Arya321 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2017 22:42 Palmar wrote:On December 15 2017 22:41 Eversince wrote: To me; It it 100 percent Palmar. His role makes no sense in the sense that there has been 'generic RB' 'Generic GF' 'Generic vig' and me as 'generic tracker'. His role is total bologna. And we should lynch him. If there is a SK in the game you guys are on your own because I will probably get killed tonight. Remember when I called you an illiterate fool? This is why. I have no role, no role. I've never claimed having a role. I am a VT. You claimed cop here: Next post: Plus your weird cop variation isn't a normal and just checked the op and says normal roles. ##Vote: Palmar
I love how LS found the contradiction!
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So yeah, a change of plans:
I claim the vigilante
I shot Grack last night.
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On December 15 2017 22:54 Eversince wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2017 22:41 Palmar wrote:On December 15 2017 22:37 Eversince wrote:On December 15 2017 22:34 Koshi wrote: The SK makes it likely town has something against that. So the tracker makes sense.
This makes HF and Eversince confirmed not SK. I don't think there is a SK. I tracked HF because he;s just to good to be as 'meh' as I found him. He survived buy didn't go to anyone and OATS/Grack are now dead. So unless mafia have a 5'th to carry dp, HF is not mafia. If your claim is true, Grack is 100% a godfather that avoids all detection (cop/track/watch) and thus he was the one delivering the kill last night. So it says nothing about hf. If KP is delivered and mafia has a godfather that can deliver them safely, there is no way they'd ever not send that guy with the kill. I will admit I don't know TL rules but most that I play on if the deliverer is killed require a new player to fill that spot if jp is delivers. No all actions (except roleblocks) happen simultaneously on TL, so if grack gets killed, he still gets to use his action that night unless roleblocked.
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So, I thought I had multiple shots. I decided to try and hold the claim so I could have more town controlled kp. I did even send a question about it right at the start of the day to confirm I had multiple shots (my role is just vigilante).
So yeah, I literally just got the response that my role is meant to be one-shot, so there is no reason at all to hold the claim, which had I known I was one shot, I would have claimed right away.
So erm.... peace guys?
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On December 15 2017 23:00 VisceraEyes wrote: God damnit Palmar NO.
No.
Because it would say how many shots you have. You're a liar trying to deceive me.
DECEIVERRRRR!!!!! Nope, literally didn't.
I admit I did get carried away with the cop claim.
I decided to do it because I was under suspicion and the mafia RB was dead. I figured I'd draw fire (and still get the shot off) or at least just confuse the fuck out of them (this is bad HF logic, but I felt like doing it so give me a break).
Then I trolled for a little bit while waiting for damdred to answer me regarding if I didn't absolutely certainly have many shots, and forumite said this:
On December 15 2017 06:27 Forumite wrote: Grack, Oats flipped red, Palmar is pointing a finger at HolyFlare, assuming Palmar did a parity cop read between me and HF (or Palmar is full of shit trying to dictate next 3 lynches). A lurky scumteam might explain why they didn't try/succeed on diverting the D1 lynch. I will reread when I have time.
I don't think it's impossible that there could be 2 scum left, I'm not sure what the usual number is for 14-player games.
and I sort of thought "hey that's a great idea" and literally created the worst cop role ever imagined by humanity on the spot, just to fuck with everyone.
I kept thinking "well doesn't matter, shot mafia". I underestimated people's willingness to kill me.
So then I saw peopel actually wanted to kill me so I switched personalities, but you know, then finally I get told that my role is one-shot.
So now I'm fucked.
I blame Koshi.
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On December 15 2017 23:01 Koshi wrote:Maybe. 2314 isn't bad either. Grack was also hinting at Palmar so I can see Palmar kill Grack as SK. Leaving stronger townies to help him find mafia. I don't really know. Because logic dictates that Grack casually mentioning me once in his completely no-impact filter would have made me panic and shoot him instead of killing the fuck out of someone like you who was screaming for my death at the top of your lungs and has a terrible history of never, ever changing opinions on me.
Sure koshi, good think right there.
Well thunk.
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