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disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 29 2017 13:37 GMT
#6202
like some of your points on skynx arent bad, but i still can see his d1 come from town and a bunch of his other posts def. have a town feel to them. i even understand him not wanting to answer your questions, because talking to you is a huge pain in the ass.

meanwhile in your camp:
On June 29 2017 18:28 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2017 01:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I don't really need to read anything more about it.
Basically btdt thinks both Palmar and Skynx are mafia. He thinks Skynx is bussing Palmar and his conclusion is that he switches to Rels to bait Skynx into switching OFF from bussing!

Basically btdt wanted to give Skynx ammo to lynch a non-scumread (or lesser scumread) rather than being fine with Skynx bussing his top scumread. There is no way a townie does that.

I didn't want to bait Skynx into voting Rels.
I wanted to see his reaction on me switching.

I expected scum!Skynx to:

1. yell at btdt because "why are you switching off your scumread"
2. potentially switch back to Rels as soon as I went back onto scum!Palmar

Skynx hammering Rels,
saving his Palmar buddy who he bussed before would've been the best confirmation to get there.
Shame though that apparently, Skynx is scum with Palmar and I just gave him the best excuse to a) push me and b) not push Rels any time soon.

From mafia perspective, my play makes absolutely zero sense. If I were scum, I would be super content in not being around at deadline and let the shennanies pass. I have full information as scum. If Palmar is scum, I'd hope and pray for people hammering Rels, if Rels was scum, I wouldn't switch at all and instead let everything pass as-is, since I have all the reasons in the world to be on Palmar.

If both wagons are town, I could just sit back and let BH do whatever he wants because no matter which wagon is gonna flip, I have a super ez mislynch to push the next day.

There is literally no. NO. way that people read a scummy behaviour into what I did.

My play would maybe be scummy if Rels was scum. I can see that happen. But Rels hasn't flipped, and disfo, the not-fan of unflipped associations, votes with Skynx, the not-giver of reasons, together with rayn, who had a townlean OR ignored me all game long.

This is super fishy and you guys should super realize that.

During NIGHT phase, thread sentiment changes against me, even with Ruxxar joining. It doesn't make sense. If you auto on me without even a counter wagon (and I would recommend Skynx being the fucking counter wagon here), then there's no way you'll gain any valuable information from me flipping not red.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 29 2017 13:44 GMT
#6206
On June 29 2017 22:38 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2017 22:37 disformation wrote:
like some of your points on skynx arent bad, but i still can see his d1 come from town and a bunch of his other posts def. have a town feel to them. i even understand him not wanting to answer your questions, because talking to you is a huge pain in the ass.

meanwhile in your camp:
On June 29 2017 18:28 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 29 2017 01:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I don't really need to read anything more about it.
Basically btdt thinks both Palmar and Skynx are mafia. He thinks Skynx is bussing Palmar and his conclusion is that he switches to Rels to bait Skynx into switching OFF from bussing!

Basically btdt wanted to give Skynx ammo to lynch a non-scumread (or lesser scumread) rather than being fine with Skynx bussing his top scumread. There is no way a townie does that.

I didn't want to bait Skynx into voting Rels.
I wanted to see his reaction on me switching.

I expected scum!Skynx to:

1. yell at btdt because "why are you switching off your scumread"
2. potentially switch back to Rels as soon as I went back onto scum!Palmar

Skynx hammering Rels,
saving his Palmar buddy who he bussed before would've been the best confirmation to get there.
Shame though that apparently, Skynx is scum with Palmar and I just gave him the best excuse to a) push me and b) not push Rels any time soon.

From mafia perspective, my play makes absolutely zero sense. If I were scum, I would be super content in not being around at deadline and let the shennanies pass. I have full information as scum. If Palmar is scum, I'd hope and pray for people hammering Rels, if Rels was scum, I wouldn't switch at all and instead let everything pass as-is, since I have all the reasons in the world to be on Palmar.

If both wagons are town, I could just sit back and let BH do whatever he wants because no matter which wagon is gonna flip, I have a super ez mislynch to push the next day.

There is literally no. NO. way that people read a scummy behaviour into what I did.

My play would maybe be scummy if Rels was scum. I can see that happen. But Rels hasn't flipped, and disfo, the not-fan of unflipped associations, votes with Skynx, the not-giver of reasons, together with rayn, who had a townlean OR ignored me all game long.

This is super fishy and you guys should super realize that.

During NIGHT phase, thread sentiment changes against me, even with Ruxxar joining. It doesn't make sense. If you auto on me without even a counter wagon (and I would recommend Skynx being the fucking counter wagon here), then there's no way you'll gain any valuable information from me flipping not red.

If you quote something and highlight something, the next step to take is "draw a conclusion"

I think that's what you do every five pages or so

*sigh*
1. I didn't want to bait Skynx into voting Rels.
2. I expected scum!Skynx to: 2. potentially switch back to Rels as soon as I went back onto scum!Palmar
3. Skynx hammering Rels,

so you didnt want to bait skynx into voting rels, but you expected him to vote and hammer rels. which means you were okay with someone you didnt really sr to be the lynch.
which means you are scum, cause that is absolutely not a scum thought process.

shouldnt need to point out that the bold sentences directly contradict each other.

ill give you that this shit makes not much sense from a scum pov, but it is horribly scummy and basically impossible to come from town.

given your play the whole game and shit ill give like an 75% chance of being scum and a 25% chance of being a toxic ass, making you a 100% good lynch.
and yes that 75% is currently the hightest scum chance i am giving out, which is why i am voting you.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 29 2017 13:47 GMT
#6208
On June 29 2017 22:45 beentheredonethat wrote:
If only I had let this pass. People would be all over Rels and the game would actually have a bit of sanity and decency to it

but that witch hunter after btdt is just so amazingly bad

there IS NO REASON TO SCUMREAD ME, DISFORMATION, AND YOU SAID IT SOME TIMES ALREADY, SAME AS RUXXAR, SAME AS FUCKING SKYNX

YET SOMEHOW, A PLAY THAT I DID, CONCIOUSLY, TO FIND SCUM, MAKES ME SCUM? HOW CAN YOU ALL COME TO THAT CONCLUSION? HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE?

because those posts where the scummiest fucking posts in the whole thread?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 29 2017 13:49 GMT
#6210
EBWOP:
On June 29 2017 22:44 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2017 22:38 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 29 2017 22:37 disformation wrote:
like some of your points on skynx arent bad, but i still can see his d1 come from town and a bunch of his other posts def. have a town feel to them. i even understand him not wanting to answer your questions, because talking to you is a huge pain in the ass.

meanwhile in your camp:
On June 29 2017 18:28 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 29 2017 01:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I don't really need to read anything more about it.
Basically btdt thinks both Palmar and Skynx are mafia. He thinks Skynx is bussing Palmar and his conclusion is that he switches to Rels to bait Skynx into switching OFF from bussing!

Basically btdt wanted to give Skynx ammo to lynch a non-scumread (or lesser scumread) rather than being fine with Skynx bussing his top scumread. There is no way a townie does that.

I didn't want to bait Skynx into voting Rels.
I wanted to see his reaction on me switching.

I expected scum!Skynx to:

1. yell at btdt because "why are you switching off your scumread"
2. potentially switch back to Rels as soon as I went back onto scum!Palmar

Skynx hammering Rels,
saving his Palmar buddy who he bussed before would've been the best confirmation to get there.
Shame though that apparently, Skynx is scum with Palmar and I just gave him the best excuse to a) push me and b) not push Rels any time soon.

From mafia perspective, my play makes absolutely zero sense. If I were scum, I would be super content in not being around at deadline and let the shennanies pass. I have full information as scum. If Palmar is scum, I'd hope and pray for people hammering Rels, if Rels was scum, I wouldn't switch at all and instead let everything pass as-is, since I have all the reasons in the world to be on Palmar.

If both wagons are town, I could just sit back and let BH do whatever he wants because no matter which wagon is gonna flip, I have a super ez mislynch to push the next day.

There is literally no. NO. way that people read a scummy behaviour into what I did.

My play would maybe be scummy if Rels was scum. I can see that happen. But Rels hasn't flipped, and disfo, the not-fan of unflipped associations, votes with Skynx, the not-giver of reasons, together with rayn, who had a townlean OR ignored me all game long.

This is super fishy and you guys should super realize that.

During NIGHT phase, thread sentiment changes against me, even with Ruxxar joining. It doesn't make sense. If you auto on me without even a counter wagon (and I would recommend Skynx being the fucking counter wagon here), then there's no way you'll gain any valuable information from me flipping not red.

If you quote something and highlight something, the next step to take is "draw a conclusion"

I think that's what you do every five pages or so

*sigh*
1. I didn't want to bait Skynx into voting Rels.
2. I expected scum!Skynx to: 2. potentially switch back to Rels as soon as I went back onto scum!Palmar
3. Skynx hammering Rels,

so you didnt want to bait skynx into voting rels, but you expected him to vote and hammer rels. which means you were okay with someone you didnt really sr to be the lynch.
which means you are scum, cause that is absolutely not a town thought process.

shouldnt need to point out that the bold sentences directly contradict each other.

ill give you that this shit makes not much sense from a scum pov, but it is horribly scummy and basically impossible to come from town.

given your play the whole game and shit ill give like an 75% chance of being scum and a 25% chance of being a toxic ass, making you a 100% good lynch.
and yes that 75% is currently the hightest scum chance i am giving out, which is why i am voting you.

disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 29 2017 13:50 GMT
#6212
On June 29 2017 22:48 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2017 22:44 disformation wrote:
On June 29 2017 22:38 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 29 2017 22:37 disformation wrote:
like some of your points on skynx arent bad, but i still can see his d1 come from town and a bunch of his other posts def. have a town feel to them. i even understand him not wanting to answer your questions, because talking to you is a huge pain in the ass.

meanwhile in your camp:
On June 29 2017 18:28 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 29 2017 01:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I don't really need to read anything more about it.
Basically btdt thinks both Palmar and Skynx are mafia. He thinks Skynx is bussing Palmar and his conclusion is that he switches to Rels to bait Skynx into switching OFF from bussing!

Basically btdt wanted to give Skynx ammo to lynch a non-scumread (or lesser scumread) rather than being fine with Skynx bussing his top scumread. There is no way a townie does that.

I didn't want to bait Skynx into voting Rels.
I wanted to see his reaction on me switching.

I expected scum!Skynx to:

1. yell at btdt because "why are you switching off your scumread"
2. potentially switch back to Rels as soon as I went back onto scum!Palmar

Skynx hammering Rels,
saving his Palmar buddy who he bussed before would've been the best confirmation to get there.
Shame though that apparently, Skynx is scum with Palmar and I just gave him the best excuse to a) push me and b) not push Rels any time soon.

From mafia perspective, my play makes absolutely zero sense. If I were scum, I would be super content in not being around at deadline and let the shennanies pass. I have full information as scum. If Palmar is scum, I'd hope and pray for people hammering Rels, if Rels was scum, I wouldn't switch at all and instead let everything pass as-is, since I have all the reasons in the world to be on Palmar.

If both wagons are town, I could just sit back and let BH do whatever he wants because no matter which wagon is gonna flip, I have a super ez mislynch to push the next day.

There is literally no. NO. way that people read a scummy behaviour into what I did.

My play would maybe be scummy if Rels was scum. I can see that happen. But Rels hasn't flipped, and disfo, the not-fan of unflipped associations, votes with Skynx, the not-giver of reasons, together with rayn, who had a townlean OR ignored me all game long.

This is super fishy and you guys should super realize that.

During NIGHT phase, thread sentiment changes against me, even with Ruxxar joining. It doesn't make sense. If you auto on me without even a counter wagon (and I would recommend Skynx being the fucking counter wagon here), then there's no way you'll gain any valuable information from me flipping not red.

If you quote something and highlight something, the next step to take is "draw a conclusion"

I think that's what you do every five pages or so

*sigh*
1. I didn't want to bait Skynx into voting Rels.
2. I expected scum!Skynx to: 2. potentially switch back to Rels as soon as I went back onto scum!Palmar
3. Skynx hammering Rels,

so you didnt want to bait skynx into voting rels, but you expected him to vote and hammer rels. which means you were okay with someone you didnt really sr to be the lynch.
which means you are scum, cause that is absolutely not a scum thought process.

shouldnt need to point out that the bold sentences directly contradict each other.

ill give you that this shit makes not much sense from a scum pov, but it is horribly scummy and basically impossible to come from town.

given your play the whole game and shit ill give like an 75% chance of being scum and a 25% chance of being a toxic ass, making you a 100% good lynch.
and yes that 75% is currently the hightest scum chance i am giving out, which is why i am voting you.

Nah. You're simply not understanding what I'm saying. More clear:

1. I didn't want to bait Skynx into voting Rels.
2. I expected scum!Skynx to: 2. potentially switch back to Rels as soon as I went back onto scum!Palmar

It wasn't a "bait" with "please bite and maybe I gain something". It was an expectation. I was 100% sure that Skynx would save his scumbuddy Palmar by hammering Rels. Because he could always go back and blame BH for this.

I don't know how you can understand this in the way you construct it to be understood

so that just means you were expecting a rels lynch from that play.
who you didnt even properly scum read.
like this makes it even worse.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 29 2017 13:50 GMT
#6213
On June 29 2017 22:50 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2017 22:47 disformation wrote:
On June 29 2017 22:45 beentheredonethat wrote:
If only I had let this pass. People would be all over Rels and the game would actually have a bit of sanity and decency to it

but that witch hunter after btdt is just so amazingly bad

there IS NO REASON TO SCUMREAD ME, DISFORMATION, AND YOU SAID IT SOME TIMES ALREADY, SAME AS RUXXAR, SAME AS FUCKING SKYNX

YET SOMEHOW, A PLAY THAT I DID, CONCIOUSLY, TO FIND SCUM, MAKES ME SCUM? HOW CAN YOU ALL COME TO THAT CONCLUSION? HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE?

because those posts where the scummiest fucking posts in the whole thread?

Except they weren't????? Even the outcome is the fucking same.

If I had done NOTHING, palmar would've flipped nevertheless. And OHHHH Palmar flipped. Same outcome. EVERYTHING THAT IS SAID ABOUT THAT BEING SCUMMY is either SUPERBAD or an abosloutely misconstructed lie.

no. if skynx had switched with you rels would have been the lynch.
even if you switched back
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 29 2017 13:52 GMT
#6215
BECAUSE YOU ARE WILLINGLY LET SOMEONE FLIP WHO IS NOT A SCUMREAD OF YOURS
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 29 2017 13:54 GMT
#6220
On June 29 2017 22:53 beentheredonethat wrote:
AND TO FIND OUT WHAT RELS ALIGNMENT IS YOU WANT TO LYNCH ME BECAUSE THATS WHAT SKYNX IS ASSOCIATING

BUT DISFORMATION DOESNT LIKE UNFLIPPED AASSOCIATIONS RIGHT EXCEPT WHEN IT COMES FROM FUCKING SKYNX

which unflipped association?
i am lynching you because you did scummy shit.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 29 2017 14:02 GMT
#6223
yeah i dont care about your bloody skynx obsession.
sue me.
or make a case on me and lynch me.

dont care
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 29 2017 14:02 GMT
#6224
and yes his unflipped asso is as bad as yours
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 29 2017 14:02 GMT
#6225
but i think you are scum regardless of rels alignment
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 29 2017 14:03 GMT
#6226
or at least have a way higher chance of flipping scum than him
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 29 2017 14:04 GMT
#6227
same for rels.
or anyone.

which is why i am voting you and not someone else
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 29 2017 14:12 GMT
#6229
eh. you lynched grack and palmar, too?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 29 2017 14:18 GMT
#6230
@VA: any sort of comment on whats going on, or a case on rels or anything?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 29 2017 14:20 GMT
#6233
va ninja voted on rels.
so i am asking why.
the "any comment on what is going on" is referring to the thread, aka you and me.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 29 2017 14:20 GMT
#6234
On June 29 2017 23:18 beentheredonethat wrote:
Yeah but I do not follow thread sentiment

on the contrary I actually have balls and my own thoughts and I dare to do something because I am not scum who is always in danger of getting caught

I said 10000 times I should be conftown by now but apparently everyone townreads 50+ pages disformation over me ALL THE WHILE saying that activity is no alignment indicator rofl


yeah you low key insulting me also is not going to make me unvote you
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 29 2017 14:21 GMT
#6236
or convince me that skynx is scum. or you town.
or anything
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 29 2017 14:22 GMT
#6238
On June 29 2017 23:21 beentheredonethat wrote:
I don't expect you to unvote me

I expect you to apologize post game and never doubt players that are way superior to you

fuck you asshole.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 29 2017 14:27 GMT
#6241
see. now i am a point again, where i have to assume you are scum, because i dont want to life in a world where town gets away with such asshole behavior.

didnt shoot me and try to tilt me because I have a record of doing stupid shit?
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