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disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 30 2017 15:45 GMT
#6421
well there was this one themed game. disfo town. btdt scum.

first he tried to get me to tilt.
then later send me a msg (via game mechanic) and claims cop with a green check on me to me.
i cover for him with a lie about the message when some townies were looking angrily at him.
because of the lie he thinks the hosts screwed over his plan with that message and ragequits for a cycle.

in the end he won for bussing a team mate very hard.


though he also fake claimed a cop with a fake red check as vt in a newbie game.
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
June 30 2017 15:46 GMT
#6422
On July 01 2017 00:43 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2017 00:41 beentheredonethat wrote:
On July 01 2017 00:40 ruXxar wrote:
On July 01 2017 00:39 beentheredonethat wrote:
can you just put in the fucking work by yourself?


Nah.

See this is why this town is so shitty. Literally the worst.

I do expect carry points and apologies post game because with my flip, you confirm two scummers

you'll kiss my buttcheeks once the game is over


How about you build a solid case on people we should lynch instead of you.

So far I'm not convinced.

okay, so you haven't even read what I wrote.

VA is a fake claim. Fake. Claim. There's a strongman in. VA claimed to have shot sicklucker but scum rolecopped and strongmaned sicklucker. no kp happened besides that because roleblocker down and chez was attacked. Remember, chez = vet, so they had to shoot twice but we STILL HAD ONE KP EACH NIGHT

disfo with the strongman TMI is scum all the way, he speculated all game long about that and derailed the thread quite heavily with it.

VA has 4 pages of filter and has not read the game nor did he participate; all he did was claiming vig and that's it. Lurky scum. Disfo is the active scum. and then there's one more of course.
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
June 30 2017 15:46 GMT
#6423
On July 01 2017 00:43 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2017 00:41 ruXxar wrote:
There's more than enough material here to vote for you.
The meta was just to satisfy my last bit of doubt.

that's like so bad

I got mislynched D1 and received Worst Town Play 2017 award nomination
I got mislynched in my last game because I yelled at people and was as fearless as I am in this game

if you'd put in the fucking work you'd realize im exactly playing to my town meta
if you'd put in tthe fucking work you'd realize my scum meta is where I am rational, cold, and super tactical

if only you'd put in the fucking work
if only your brain would be capable of doing that

but it's not


sad

sad

sad town


Insulting me is not really going to help.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
June 30 2017 15:48 GMT
#6424
On July 01 2017 00:45 disformation wrote:
well there was this one themed game. disfo town. btdt scum.

first he tried to get me to tilt.
then later send me a msg (via game mechanic) and claims cop with a green check on me to me.
i cover for him with a lie about the message when some townies were looking angrily at him.
because of the lie he thinks the hosts screwed over his plan with that message and ragequits for a cycle.

in the end he won for bussing a team mate very hard.


though he also fake claimed a cop with a fake red check as vt in a newbie game.

yep, that last part got the doc and me lynched.

This is not really what happened. I averted those townies on my own and I didn't have too much specific pressure on me. You were just buying it all day and night long and never believed I was scum. As I said in the beginning of the game, it's super easy to pocket you and the fact that I raged all game long in your direction should be a huge towntell to you. Especially since I'm not tilting you. We're kinda grinding against each other until we (mainly I) explode. That's a huge difference.

"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 30 2017 15:48 GMT
#6425
On July 01 2017 00:48 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2017 00:45 disformation wrote:
well there was this one themed game. disfo town. btdt scum.

first he tried to get me to tilt.
then later send me a msg (via game mechanic) and claims cop with a green check on me to me.
i cover for him with a lie about the message when some townies were looking angrily at him.
because of the lie he thinks the hosts screwed over his plan with that message and ragequits for a cycle.

in the end he won for bussing a team mate very hard.


though he also fake claimed a cop with a fake red check as vt in a newbie game.

yep, that last part got the doc and me lynched.

This is not really what happened. I averted those townies on my own and I didn't have too much specific pressure on me. You were just buying it all day and night long and never believed I was scum. As I said in the beginning of the game, it's super easy to pocket you and the fact that I raged all game long in your direction should be a huge towntell to you. Especially since I'm not tilting you. We're kinda grinding against each other until we (mainly I) explode. That's a huge difference.


um. wat?
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
June 30 2017 15:48 GMT
#6426
On July 01 2017 00:46 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2017 00:43 beentheredonethat wrote:
On July 01 2017 00:41 ruXxar wrote:
There's more than enough material here to vote for you.
The meta was just to satisfy my last bit of doubt.



I got mislynched D1 and received Worst Town Play 2017 award nomination
I got mislynched in my last game because I yelled at people and was as fearless as I am in this game

if you'd put in the fucking work you'd realize im exactly playing to my town meta
if you'd put in tthe fucking work you'd realize my scum meta is where I am rational, cold, and super tactical

if only you'd put in the fucking work
if only your brain would be capable of doing that

but it's not


sad

sad

sad town


Insulting me is not really going to help.

Ok

I got mislynched D1 and received Worst Town Play 2017 award nomination
I got mislynched in my last game because I yelled at people and was as fearless as I am in this game

down to the facts


go check them

"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
June 30 2017 15:50 GMT
#6427
On July 01 2017 00:48 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2017 00:48 beentheredonethat wrote:
On July 01 2017 00:45 disformation wrote:
well there was this one themed game. disfo town. btdt scum.

first he tried to get me to tilt.
then later send me a msg (via game mechanic) and claims cop with a green check on me to me.
i cover for him with a lie about the message when some townies were looking angrily at him.
because of the lie he thinks the hosts screwed over his plan with that message and ragequits for a cycle.

in the end he won for bussing a team mate very hard.


though he also fake claimed a cop with a fake red check as vt in a newbie game.

yep, that last part got the doc and me lynched.

This is not really what happened. I averted those townies on my own and I didn't have too much specific pressure on me. You were just buying it all day and night long and never believed I was scum. As I said in the beginning of the game, it's super easy to pocket you and the fact that I raged all game long in your direction should be a huge towntell to you. Especially since I'm not tilting you. We're kinda grinding against each other until we (mainly I) explode. That's a huge difference.


um. wat?

Okay. You got one chance. I am right now ready to talk to you. If you choose to say "um. wat?" to me instead of an actual reply, I'll stop that straight away. I don't need a discussion to escalate once more with a scum disformation who isn't really interested in in-depth discussions anayways.

Your choice.
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 30 2017 15:50 GMT
#6428
dude you are insulting me left and right on daily basis starting like day 3?
where are you not trying your hardest to tilt me?
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
June 30 2017 15:53 GMT
#6429
On July 01 2017 00:50 disformation wrote:
dude you are insulting me left and right on daily basis starting like day 3?
where are you not trying your hardest to tilt me?

We discuss things. Your reactions clearly show that your wrong and you are scumreading me for cheap reasons. At some point you even dropped the weak points you had prior to last EoD and relied solely on my per se not scummy EoD to vote me. You interpret me in the worst way possible and you do not even consider the possibility that I am town.

It is super hard for me to discuss against that brick wall since I know I'm quite the insecure person when it comes down to my own mafia capabilities. I do not think I'm a good player but I didn't want to be all whiney about that like I was in the newbie game because that got me mislynched.

I think my decisions for my actions where decent and I am refusing to not think so. I put my own ingame life at risk (well, unknowingly) because I was sure Skynx would make a mistake and confirm himself as scum. If I hadn't taken that risk, I'd be fine and dandy. I'd probably be discussing a Rels lynch right now and I guess I'd still be tunneled on Skynx.
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
June 30 2017 15:54 GMT
#6430
On July 01 2017 00:46 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2017 00:43 ruXxar wrote:
On July 01 2017 00:41 beentheredonethat wrote:
On July 01 2017 00:40 ruXxar wrote:
On July 01 2017 00:39 beentheredonethat wrote:
can you just put in the fucking work by yourself?


Nah.

See this is why this town is so shitty. Literally the worst.

I do expect carry points and apologies post game because with my flip, you confirm two scummers

you'll kiss my buttcheeks once the game is over


How about you build a solid case on people we should lynch instead of you.

So far I'm not convinced.

okay, so you haven't even read what I wrote.

VA is a fake claim. Fake. Claim. There's a strongman in. VA claimed to have shot sicklucker but scum rolecopped and strongmaned sicklucker. no kp happened besides that because roleblocker down and chez was attacked. Remember, chez = vet, so they had to shoot twice but we STILL HAD ONE KP EACH NIGHT

disfo with the strongman TMI is scum all the way, he speculated all game long about that and derailed the thread quite heavily with it.

VA has 4 pages of filter and has not read the game nor did he participate; all he did was claiming vig and that's it. Lurky scum. Disfo is the active scum. and then there's one more of course.


Ok, so this is my view of the world.

There is a strongman in the scum.
Chez is veteran, needs 2kp to die.

Mafia has 2kp first two nights, 2 towns die each night.
Day 3 SL is nk.
Day 4 Chez is nk. Chez is veteran.

VA claims vigi, shot SL. 1 mafia kp is missing.
Next night chez died, all mafia kp is accounted for.

Can you explain your version in the same way.

Explain it like I'm a 5 year old.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
June 30 2017 15:55 GMT
#6431
Forget the strongman line above.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
June 30 2017 15:58 GMT
#6432
In the meantime, while you do the main work pushing me, people like rayn get away with a super cheap vote on me. People like BH get away with planned shennanies that are clearly scum-indicative. Rels gets away with being a super close counter wagon to town, just like the Xata and Annul wagons D1. VA gets away with 4 pages of filter. He has contributed 4 pages to thus far 322 pages of game, his claim is clearly a fake and disformation's talk points heavily to him TMI'ing.

I didn't know about the Star Wars game so it's entirely possible that disfo is town, after all. I gotta admit that besides VA, I am not sure about anyone anymore. Maybe the correct approach to this game is to fully reset after I flipped. Completely reset, go back through my filter, read my checks, and see if you get any intel out of them. Town has been wrong ever since Xata flipped.

We should ask questions like
- Who didn't care at all about the Grack lynch? Who let it happen?
- Who disappears for the majority of time and only comes back when it's somewhat needed to push the threads slightly into a certain direction?

Like, don't go for "this is scummy" anymore and then chop up the specific situation until everyone is raged. Instead, re-read the game. Go back to Grack flip, read the day from then on. Maybe even earlier. Maybe Ruxxar didn't "bait scum" like he claimed when he unvoted Xata. Maybe he tried to not vote scum and in case he would've gained traction, he could've saved scum RB.

There are lots and lots of hints in this game. Maybe even in Tumblewood's filter.

Use them.
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 30 2017 16:03 GMT
#6433
aight omw home. will reply after dinner etc.
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
June 30 2017 16:08 GMT
#6434
On July 01 2017 00:54 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2017 00:46 beentheredonethat wrote:
On July 01 2017 00:43 ruXxar wrote:
On July 01 2017 00:41 beentheredonethat wrote:
On July 01 2017 00:40 ruXxar wrote:
On July 01 2017 00:39 beentheredonethat wrote:
can you just put in the fucking work by yourself?


Nah.

See this is why this town is so shitty. Literally the worst.

I do expect carry points and apologies post game because with my flip, you confirm two scummers

you'll kiss my buttcheeks once the game is over


How about you build a solid case on people we should lynch instead of you.

So far I'm not convinced.

okay, so you haven't even read what I wrote.

VA is a fake claim. Fake. Claim. There's a strongman in. VA claimed to have shot sicklucker but scum rolecopped and strongmaned sicklucker. no kp happened besides that because roleblocker down and chez was attacked. Remember, chez = vet, so they had to shoot twice but we STILL HAD ONE KP EACH NIGHT

disfo with the strongman TMI is scum all the way, he speculated all game long about that and derailed the thread quite heavily with it.

VA has 4 pages of filter and has not read the game nor did he participate; all he did was claiming vig and that's it. Lurky scum. Disfo is the active scum. and then there's one more of course.


Ok, so this is my view of the world.

There is a strongman in the scum.
Chez is veteran, needs 2kp to die.

Mafia has 2kp first two nights, 2 towns die each night.
Day 3 SL is nk.
Day 4 Chez is nk. Chez is veteran.

VA claims vigi, shot SL. 1 mafia kp is missing.
Next night chez died, all mafia kp is accounted for.

Can you explain your version in the same way.

Explain it like I'm a 5 year old.


Day 3, Mafia has only 1 KP left. And they have Strongarm, a mechanic that allows them to kill a blue through all protection, an additional, one-time KP.

What happens in the night phase is:
1. Mafia attack Chez with the regular KP
2. Mafia, who had rolecopped sicklucker previously, used Strongman on Sicklucker.

Chez survives the night, some players rejoice and go as far as thanking scum for the seeming KP because "the kill didn't make sense at all from scum perspective". This is the very moment of VA. VA, who had not participated in the game in any way before yet somehow managed to always cast his vote (Note: he was D1 outside of Xata/Annul, but D2 super early on the Grack wagon AND he joined BH's shenanigans (or voted Rels even before that, I didn't check timestamps)).

VA takes the risk and claims Vigilante, 1-shot. And remember, a vig is a investigative role after all.

There is no vig in, though. It's a fakeclaim, and because no vig is in, nobody bothered with it. But the setup is:

* Watcher
* Parity Cop
* Town Tracker
* Veteran

vs.

* Scum Tracker
* Rolecop
* Roleblocker
* Framer?
* GF/Untrackable?
Plus the additional KP and the Strongman.

To limit the power of the investigatives, at least one (Koshi) unaware Miller is in, maybe even more, plus the unaware Wanderer (darthfoley), maybe even more.

This is the setup. Only uncertainty are the remaining scum roles.
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
June 30 2017 16:13 GMT
#6435
On July 01 2017 01:08 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2017 00:54 ruXxar wrote:
On July 01 2017 00:46 beentheredonethat wrote:
On July 01 2017 00:43 ruXxar wrote:
On July 01 2017 00:41 beentheredonethat wrote:
On July 01 2017 00:40 ruXxar wrote:
On July 01 2017 00:39 beentheredonethat wrote:
can you just put in the fucking work by yourself?


Nah.

See this is why this town is so shitty. Literally the worst.

I do expect carry points and apologies post game because with my flip, you confirm two scummers

you'll kiss my buttcheeks once the game is over


How about you build a solid case on people we should lynch instead of you.

So far I'm not convinced.

okay, so you haven't even read what I wrote.

VA is a fake claim. Fake. Claim. There's a strongman in. VA claimed to have shot sicklucker but scum rolecopped and strongmaned sicklucker. no kp happened besides that because roleblocker down and chez was attacked. Remember, chez = vet, so they had to shoot twice but we STILL HAD ONE KP EACH NIGHT

disfo with the strongman TMI is scum all the way, he speculated all game long about that and derailed the thread quite heavily with it.

VA has 4 pages of filter and has not read the game nor did he participate; all he did was claiming vig and that's it. Lurky scum. Disfo is the active scum. and then there's one more of course.


Ok, so this is my view of the world.

There is a strongman in the scum.
Chez is veteran, needs 2kp to die.

Mafia has 2kp first two nights, 2 towns die each night.
Day 3 SL is nk.
Day 4 Chez is nk. Chez is veteran.

VA claims vigi, shot SL. 1 mafia kp is missing.
Next night chez died, all mafia kp is accounted for.

Can you explain your version in the same way.

Explain it like I'm a 5 year old.


Day 3, Mafia has only 1 KP left. And they have Strongarm, a mechanic that allows them to kill a blue through all protection, an additional, one-time KP.

What happens in the night phase is:
1. Mafia attack Chez with the regular KP
2. Mafia, who had rolecopped sicklucker previously, used Strongman on Sicklucker.

Chez survives the night, some players rejoice and go as far as thanking scum for the seeming KP because "the kill didn't make sense at all from scum perspective". This is the very moment of VA. VA, who had not participated in the game in any way before yet somehow managed to always cast his vote (Note: he was D1 outside of Xata/Annul, but D2 super early on the Grack wagon AND he joined BH's shenanigans (or voted Rels even before that, I didn't check timestamps)).

VA takes the risk and claims Vigilante, 1-shot. And remember, a vig is a investigative role after all.

There is no vig in, though. It's a fakeclaim, and because no vig is in, nobody bothered with it. But the setup is:

* Watcher
* Parity Cop
* Town Tracker
* Veteran

vs.

* Scum Tracker
* Rolecop
* Roleblocker
* Framer?
* GF/Untrackable?
Plus the additional KP and the Strongman.

To limit the power of the investigatives, at least one (Koshi) unaware Miller is in, maybe even more, plus the unaware Wanderer (darthfoley), maybe even more.

This is the setup. Only uncertainty are the remaining scum roles.


Thanks for this post. I will give some thoughts when I get home.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
June 30 2017 16:15 GMT
#6436
Are you seriously still using the bunk logic that the host slipped by saying town tracker?
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
June 30 2017 16:17 GMT
#6437
What purpose does the scum tracker even serve? Might as well be a second rolecop that can't detect the vet.
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
June 30 2017 16:18 GMT
#6438
You're also.claiming that there are 6 mafia since you added the strongman after your list of 5
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
June 30 2017 16:18 GMT
#6439
Just one thing though.

Why can't VA be the vigi?
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
June 30 2017 16:49 GMT
#6440
Another thing.

If you were so sure that VA is mafia, why didn't you push him as scum before you claimed watcher?
Why wait until you claimed watcher to start pushing VA?

Suddenly after you claim you are 100% super sure that VA fake claimed.
But you had that exact same information the moment that Chez flipped as veteran.

Why didn't you push VA earlier?
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
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