EPTOn June 22 2017 05:37 disformation wrote:
2nd quote then
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On June 22 2017 05:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I mean in sicklucker's filter, i know Xatalos' read progression on me since i have been following his posts almost most closely from everyone this game.
On June 22 2017 05:34 disformation wrote:
On June 22 2017 05:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
let me read that again in his filter.
On June 22 2017 05:26 disformation wrote:
the xata thing:
he said xata hat original reads.
correct to: xata had an original read onto you.
ppl pointed out that the xata read on you wasnt even a proper scum read.
but your point on the immediately after the flip stuff are good
On June 22 2017 05:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What is the false town read on Xatalos? I mean what stuff he said wasn't true. I just read his filter and tbh now i remember why i thought he was mafia on N1 but i got proven i was wrong because of the night kills N1. I wouldn't think anyone would understand that so i never bothered with it after. I don't think the read change on Xatalos makes sicklucker anything, maybe more likely town than mafia. Basically people were/are arguing that he knew Xatalos will be killed and that's why he changed his read mid-N1. But if he is mafia he knows that already when annul flips (or even before) so why doesn't he then just do it immediately after the flip, since he already has the reasoning ready (he is gonna use later on). It doesn't make any sense. Rest of it is not anything sicklucker did so i don't really care and the last point you debunked yourself in the same sentence..
On June 22 2017 05:13 disformation wrote:
just posted it earlier...
On June 22 2017 05:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What is even the case on sicklucker? The "he did townie things"?
What is even the case on sicklucker? The "he did townie things"?
just posted it earlier...
On June 22 2017 03:52 disformation wrote:
eh lemme try to give you a tldr.
you were pushing annul super damn hard, but never explained why, although i asked you.
you had a basically false tr on xata. as in that tr was based on stuff that wasnt true.
then you admitted that annul was a bit town eod, but that didnt seem to bother you.
after the annul flip you had a few posts saying that the voting stuff didnt necessairly make xata scum.
ppl scumreading you tend to get shot at night.
you had a uncharacteristically active d1 and fell off super hard after that. though yeah d2 was kinda auto.
rels also has some stuffs here:
On June 22 2017 03:38 sicklucker wrote:
disinfo let me try to change your mind since im pretty sure your one of the towns on this wagon and your here. what are your current problems with me this games to big to remember
disinfo let me try to change your mind since im pretty sure your one of the towns on this wagon and your here. what are your current problems with me this games to big to remember
eh lemme try to give you a tldr.
you were pushing annul super damn hard, but never explained why, although i asked you.
you had a basically false tr on xata. as in that tr was based on stuff that wasnt true.
then you admitted that annul was a bit town eod, but that didnt seem to bother you.
after the annul flip you had a few posts saying that the voting stuff didnt necessairly make xata scum.
ppl scumreading you tend to get shot at night.
you had a uncharacteristically active d1 and fell off super hard after that. though yeah d2 was kinda auto.
rels also has some stuffs here:
On June 21 2017 20:44 Rels wrote:
More killer stuff against SL, during N1. He can't explain why suddenly his Xata read changes just because it was a contested lynch. If he's scum he KNOWS Xata is gonna be probably killed soon, maybe even vig'd.
More killer stuff against SL, during N1. He can't explain why suddenly his Xata read changes just because it was a contested lynch. If he's scum he KNOWS Xata is gonna be probably killed soon, maybe even vig'd.
On June 16 2017 21:30 sicklucker wrote:
This is my tenitive reads list from most likely town to most likely scum.
Fecalfeast
darthfoley
Rels
disformation
Palmar
Ruxxar
raynpelikoneet
Koshi
^ id be kind of surprised if these guys were scum
btdm
ruXxar
Tumblewood
Xatalos
Grackaroni
Skynx
Vivax
Eversince
Holyflare
marvellosity
I doubt its that accurate since theres alot of people and just started but I thought id share about where my heads at
This is my tenitive reads list from most likely town to most likely scum.
Fecalfeast
darthfoley
Rels
disformation
Palmar
Ruxxar
raynpelikoneet
Koshi
^ id be kind of surprised if these guys were scum
btdm
ruXxar
Tumblewood
Xatalos
Grackaroni
Skynx
Vivax
Eversince
Holyflare
marvellosity
I doubt its that accurate since theres alot of people and just started but I thought id share about where my heads at
On June 16 2017 21:36 Holyflare wrote:
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Nothing has changed. Absolutely 0 things have changed since you independently town read Xatalos based on his play. Zero. Zilch. Nada.
Why is he not on your town list?
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Nothing has changed. Absolutely 0 things have changed since you independently town read Xatalos based on his play. Zero. Zilch. Nada.
Why is he not on your town list?
On June 16 2017 21:43 Holyflare wrote:
You're so full of crap!
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What has changed since this in any way that changes Xatalos' alignment?
You're so full of crap!
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What has changed since this in any way that changes Xatalos' alignment?
On June 16 2017 21:56 sicklucker wrote:
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the other wagon was town in a really close and contested vote...
That highly suggests hes mafia you know this your just trying to make me look bad
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the other wagon was town in a really close and contested vote...
That highly suggests hes mafia you know this your just trying to make me look bad
On June 16 2017 21:58 Holyflare wrote:
I don't give a crap what mafia nonsense you're spouting. You led a wagon on a towny and have absolutely no reason to town read xata. I have MULTIPLE times corrected you that xata doesn't scum read rayn. Which is THE ONLY reason you said you town read Xata despite saying he has opposite readS!! to the thread, you could only quote one and it was wrong.
Then you pushed a wagon on a guy who was not scummy, openly referenced his grand survival plan multiple times and then even you acknowledged he was looking towny.
Then you try and take someone referencing the one troll post you did early game (because let's face it you really did nothing else) as a slight town read because she didn't call you mafia from one post. The thing is she didn't call you town either.
You're worming your way through falsehoods, trying to push events that never happened. Palmar didn't spite vote you from last game, I didn't vote you with no case, vivax wasn't "being bad". All of these are reconstructions of what is actually happening in the game. You even said if palmar was around he'd move his vote but he was around and said he'd keep it there.
Then Eversince comes and has no reason not to vote you. Xatalos' flip will certainly give a shit tonne of information and i hope to god he's town because then her not voting you is the final nail in your coffin.
I don't give a crap what mafia nonsense you're spouting. You led a wagon on a towny and have absolutely no reason to town read xata. I have MULTIPLE times corrected you that xata doesn't scum read rayn. Which is THE ONLY reason you said you town read Xata despite saying he has opposite readS!! to the thread, you could only quote one and it was wrong.
Then you pushed a wagon on a guy who was not scummy, openly referenced his grand survival plan multiple times and then even you acknowledged he was looking towny.
Then you try and take someone referencing the one troll post you did early game (because let's face it you really did nothing else) as a slight town read because she didn't call you mafia from one post. The thing is she didn't call you town either.
You're worming your way through falsehoods, trying to push events that never happened. Palmar didn't spite vote you from last game, I didn't vote you with no case, vivax wasn't "being bad". All of these are reconstructions of what is actually happening in the game. You even said if palmar was around he'd move his vote but he was around and said he'd keep it there.
Then Eversince comes and has no reason not to vote you. Xatalos' flip will certainly give a shit tonne of information and i hope to god he's town because then her not voting you is the final nail in your coffin.
On June 16 2017 22:02 Holyflare wrote:
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This is posted after the lynch. You don't even think it makes him mafia. A contested lynch means shit all. It's mafias job to make lynches mean nothing. It could be two towns, one mafia one town, anything. You haven't once used any information from it to make the reads nonsense you're posting.
You have me in a lynch list with xatalos who you are now calling mafia despite me trying to also hammer him. You have really really bad reads in this list. You have Eversince who has been pushed by vivax for eternity and myself since the flip, no evaluation.
You take bull shit posts and turn it into bigger bull shit reads and have no game sense. This is not the town SL I know that is solving conspiracy theories. This is an sl who more than likely saw his buddy xatalos up for lynch and fabricated nonsense to save him. When was the last time you tried on a day 1? When was there a time you've ever given a shit enough for a day 1 lynch to matter so much over a really thin town read on xata? Never, that's when.
I will make people see the light. Fiery vengeance will rain down upon you.
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This is posted after the lynch. You don't even think it makes him mafia. A contested lynch means shit all. It's mafias job to make lynches mean nothing. It could be two towns, one mafia one town, anything. You haven't once used any information from it to make the reads nonsense you're posting.
You have me in a lynch list with xatalos who you are now calling mafia despite me trying to also hammer him. You have really really bad reads in this list. You have Eversince who has been pushed by vivax for eternity and myself since the flip, no evaluation.
You take bull shit posts and turn it into bigger bull shit reads and have no game sense. This is not the town SL I know that is solving conspiracy theories. This is an sl who more than likely saw his buddy xatalos up for lynch and fabricated nonsense to save him. When was the last time you tried on a day 1? When was there a time you've ever given a shit enough for a day 1 lynch to matter so much over a really thin town read on xata? Never, that's when.
I will make people see the light. Fiery vengeance will rain down upon you.
On June 16 2017 22:06 sicklucker wrote:
alright im not arguing with a lawyer anymore. unless your up for lynch
alright im not arguing with a lawyer anymore. unless your up for lynch
What is the false town read on Xatalos? I mean what stuff he said wasn't true. I just read his filter and tbh now i remember why i thought he was mafia on N1 but i got proven i was wrong because of the night kills N1. I wouldn't think anyone would understand that so i never bothered with it after. I don't think the read change on Xatalos makes sicklucker anything, maybe more likely town than mafia. Basically people were/are arguing that he knew Xatalos will be killed and that's why he changed his read mid-N1. But if he is mafia he knows that already when annul flips (or even before) so why doesn't he then just do it immediately after the flip, since he already has the reasoning ready (he is gonna use later on). It doesn't make any sense. Rest of it is not anything sicklucker did so i don't really care and the last point you debunked yourself in the same sentence..
the xata thing:
he said xata hat original reads.
correct to: xata had an original read onto you.
ppl pointed out that the xata read on you wasnt even a proper scum read.
but your point on the immediately after the flip stuff are good
let me read that again in his filter.
On June 16 2017 02:14 Xatalos wrote:
I can't be online much until EOD today.. I think I'll be online like 1-2 hours before the deadline and then just have to sleep. Anyways, here are my main reads so far (some people have posted nothing / barely anything so they've been basically ignored in my memory, who knows, would be dice rolling on them).
1) ruxxar: Has a decent amount of posts, but mostly they've been red flags or questionable at best. No spirit of scumhunting so far, just random comments with unbelievable reasoning (like "strong first post!" -> "I didn't like the content, it was just townily unpolished" - ask yourself, does this sound like an excuse thought after the fact of posting a random comment or a genuine thought process? how is it "strong" if it's townily bad?, very, very meh).
2) rayn: Can still easily be scum. He's a very sneaky scum, and I'm still quite confused by his Koshi commentary. Hope he'll explain that soon(TM).
3) annul: I'd have expected so much more after hearing about his reputation (although it seems to be years ago). There's just nothing to write home about in his filter. Nothing extremely scummy, but just no scumhunting, pushing the thread forward or anything. More like reluctant sideline commentary on some things he picked to comment about, things he could easily do as scum and should've done more than that as town.
4) Koshi: Not really sold on him being our best lynch. There was just nothing that I saw screamed "lynch now!", only slightly concerning points in a large amount of activity. TBH some of the discussions on Koshi have went over my head too as I've been reading the game very lacklusterly from my phone etc. In any case, when someone referenced the Koshi case to me earlier it didn't really cause me to want to vote for him.
4) FF: I'd say town. I just had a pleasant feeling reading his posts since the start, felt like he posted what he actually wanted to say and it made sense.
5) HF: Probably town too. Even if he exaggerates a bit in his cases, he's pushing the game forward and doing stuff all the time. Apparently it's also been his intention to generate discussion with stronger than usual pushes. Just feels more like a town game plan to hyper push and focus the attention on himself and his surroundings. As scum there would be easier targets for that than Koshi or rayn or Vivax etc. too, if the intention was to get people mislynched.
6) Vivax: I think what I liked about him earlier was his meta read on me. It felt honest rather than trying to just curry my favor or alternatively spread suspicion on me. Well, I may be biased
Vivax, my main problem with you when I read you sometime today was this post:
...because, even if you called him out on misrepresenting things, that's one of the more blatant misrepresentations in the game in itself. Ever did not in fact ever "parrot" HF. He just referenced the case on rayn when asked, even though he clearly said he disagreed with it. That's far from parroting, it's the opposite.
That's still bothering me. Not sure if it means scum or town Vivax yet though, I think it's not possible to come from either.
7) Eversince: unrelated to that, he is somewhat lackluster. Not fair to say he's "parroting" or "not having original thoughts" though. Clearly that's false. There are original thoughts in his filter, there's just so little of any content there. Conclusion: ???
Rest: no strong opinions one way or another. This might change if I had time to read their filters, but now I'll have to go for some time.
So yeah, ruxxar/annul seem like our best bets today overall.
I can't be online much until EOD today.. I think I'll be online like 1-2 hours before the deadline and then just have to sleep. Anyways, here are my main reads so far (some people have posted nothing / barely anything so they've been basically ignored in my memory, who knows, would be dice rolling on them).
1) ruxxar: Has a decent amount of posts, but mostly they've been red flags or questionable at best. No spirit of scumhunting so far, just random comments with unbelievable reasoning (like "strong first post!" -> "I didn't like the content, it was just townily unpolished" - ask yourself, does this sound like an excuse thought after the fact of posting a random comment or a genuine thought process? how is it "strong" if it's townily bad?, very, very meh).
2) rayn: Can still easily be scum. He's a very sneaky scum, and I'm still quite confused by his Koshi commentary. Hope he'll explain that soon(TM).
3) annul: I'd have expected so much more after hearing about his reputation (although it seems to be years ago). There's just nothing to write home about in his filter. Nothing extremely scummy, but just no scumhunting, pushing the thread forward or anything. More like reluctant sideline commentary on some things he picked to comment about, things he could easily do as scum and should've done more than that as town.
4) Koshi: Not really sold on him being our best lynch. There was just nothing that I saw screamed "lynch now!", only slightly concerning points in a large amount of activity. TBH some of the discussions on Koshi have went over my head too as I've been reading the game very lacklusterly from my phone etc. In any case, when someone referenced the Koshi case to me earlier it didn't really cause me to want to vote for him.
4) FF: I'd say town. I just had a pleasant feeling reading his posts since the start, felt like he posted what he actually wanted to say and it made sense.
5) HF: Probably town too. Even if he exaggerates a bit in his cases, he's pushing the game forward and doing stuff all the time. Apparently it's also been his intention to generate discussion with stronger than usual pushes. Just feels more like a town game plan to hyper push and focus the attention on himself and his surroundings. As scum there would be easier targets for that than Koshi or rayn or Vivax etc. too, if the intention was to get people mislynched.
6) Vivax: I think what I liked about him earlier was his meta read on me. It felt honest rather than trying to just curry my favor or alternatively spread suspicion on me. Well, I may be biased
Vivax, my main problem with you when I read you sometime today was this post:On June 15 2017 06:26 Vivax wrote:
Yeah why would you hate someone who parrots your misreps of rayn like gospel?
On June 15 2017 06:24 Holyflare wrote:
Dunno why everyone hates ever, she's right that it's fucking awful koshi town reads me for a shit fight that in his opinion doesn't make sense. That's my scum meta 101.
Dunno why everyone hates ever, she's right that it's fucking awful koshi town reads me for a shit fight that in his opinion doesn't make sense. That's my scum meta 101.
Yeah why would you hate someone who parrots your misreps of rayn like gospel?
...because, even if you called him out on misrepresenting things, that's one of the more blatant misrepresentations in the game in itself. Ever did not in fact ever "parrot" HF. He just referenced the case on rayn when asked, even though he clearly said he disagreed with it. That's far from parroting, it's the opposite.
That's still bothering me. Not sure if it means scum or town Vivax yet though, I think it's not possible to come from either.
7) Eversince: unrelated to that, he is somewhat lackluster. Not fair to say he's "parroting" or "not having original thoughts" though. Clearly that's false. There are original thoughts in his filter, there's just so little of any content there. Conclusion: ???
Rest: no strong opinions one way or another. This might change if I had time to read their filters, but now I'll have to go for some time.
So yeah, ruxxar/annul seem like our best bets today overall.
On June 16 2017 07:49 sicklucker wrote:
I said that because xata had a mafia read on ryan and everyone else town read him. get over it you lost save your buddy
On June 16 2017 07:47 Holyflare wrote:
sl came to the thread and town read xatalos because xatalos has different reads to most of the game (when in fact xatalos' reads are blending with the rest of the game
sl says i'm mafia for calling all the town leaders mafia and it's my mafia meta when 100% of other games he states my mafia meta is to push lurkers
sl is trying to force the wagon onto someone who is blatantly self-preserving and revealing his plan for all to see, who stubbornly refuses to change his reads despite everyone yelling at him mafia
sl is mafia
On June 16 2017 07:45 Eversince wrote:
This is going to make me look like garbage.
I haven't read anything since pg 35ish. Give me the the rough of what's happen between now and then for Xata, Annul, and SL.
I don't have time to fact check so my vote is entirely blind at this point.
This is going to make me look like garbage.
I haven't read anything since pg 35ish. Give me the the rough of what's happen between now and then for Xata, Annul, and SL.
I don't have time to fact check so my vote is entirely blind at this point.
sl came to the thread and town read xatalos because xatalos has different reads to most of the game (when in fact xatalos' reads are blending with the rest of the game
sl says i'm mafia for calling all the town leaders mafia and it's my mafia meta when 100% of other games he states my mafia meta is to push lurkers
sl is trying to force the wagon onto someone who is blatantly self-preserving and revealing his plan for all to see, who stubbornly refuses to change his reads despite everyone yelling at him mafia
sl is mafia
I said that because xata had a mafia read on ryan and everyone else town read him. get over it you lost save your buddy
I mean in sicklucker's filter, i know Xatalos' read progression on me since i have been following his posts almost most closely from everyone this game.
2nd quote then
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On June 16 2017 07:49 sicklucker wrote:
I said that because xata had a mafia read on ryan and everyone else town read him. get over it you lost save your buddy
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On June 16 2017 07:47 Holyflare wrote:
sl came to the thread and town read xatalos because xatalos has different reads to most of the game (when in fact xatalos' reads are blending with the rest of the game
sl says i'm mafia for calling all the town leaders mafia and it's my mafia meta when 100% of other games he states my mafia meta is to push lurkers
sl is trying to force the wagon onto someone who is blatantly self-preserving and revealing his plan for all to see, who stubbornly refuses to change his reads despite everyone yelling at him mafia
sl is mafia
On June 16 2017 07:45 Eversince wrote:
This is going to make me look like garbage.
I haven't read anything since pg 35ish. Give me the the rough of what's happen between now and then for Xata, Annul, and SL.
I don't have time to fact check so my vote is entirely blind at this point.
This is going to make me look like garbage.
I haven't read anything since pg 35ish. Give me the the rough of what's happen between now and then for Xata, Annul, and SL.
I don't have time to fact check so my vote is entirely blind at this point.
sl came to the thread and town read xatalos because xatalos has different reads to most of the game (when in fact xatalos' reads are blending with the rest of the game
sl says i'm mafia for calling all the town leaders mafia and it's my mafia meta when 100% of other games he states my mafia meta is to push lurkers
sl is trying to force the wagon onto someone who is blatantly self-preserving and revealing his plan for all to see, who stubbornly refuses to change his reads despite everyone yelling at him mafia
sl is mafia
I said that because xata had a mafia read on ryan and everyone else town read him. get over it you lost save your buddy
