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On June 28 2017 02:31 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2017 02:13 ruXxar wrote:On June 28 2017 01:59 Palmar wrote:On June 28 2017 01:54 ruXxar wrote:On June 28 2017 01:53 Palmar wrote:
Can someone please tell me why I am mafia?
Note: if your argument is that I've been less active and less deeply involved than normal, can you provide an explanation as to why that discrepancy means I am mafia? How about you tell us why you are town? 1) I haven't played much, but when I have I have done it with the sole intent of making reads or solving the game. I haven't engaged in any arguments or pointless fights or otherwise created content just to create it. Almost all my posts are reflections on reading a filter or commentary on something that interests me. 2) I tryhard when I'm mafia. I always do it because the QT sort of forces me to. I have my teammates there right in front of me and I get far more of a "team boost" than I do as town. In general, my play is extremely similar to a baseline of "act like a normal human being" when I'm mafia. On the other hand, when I'm town I play a myriad of styles, from lurking afk to spamming to playing characters or even having multiple personalities. 3) While some have called my reads shallow, they're all based on reality. I read something, think something about it and run with it. 4) I care more about being right than surviving. I could easily have jumped the Rels wagon, but I just don't think it's the best lynch. I really, really think btdt is 100% going to flip mafia this game. I don't really think Rels will. I will obviously lynch Rels over myself, but it's not what I want. I am truly disappointed people are buying btdt's act. Rayn saying a guy who has been here over a year is a "new player" is just... meh. 1) Engaging with people is what the game is all about. If you don't do it, we have a hard time discerning people's alignments. Which is exactly the reason why people want to lynch you. Not participating in the game makes it harder for town to win, not easier. 2) Meta read 3) You didn't really seem to run with it day when you said that darth foley was possible mafia. You didn't even expand on what you read that made you think that. On June 16 2017 16:39 Palmar wrote:
I clicked darthfoley's filter. I don't like it much, and I would expect him to be a relatively easy townread if he was town. I think he is a good candidate for being mafia. Where is the follow up? Where is the reasoning? Where is the push? 4) If you cared about being right, then why didn't you push your scum read on DF?¨ Because I didn't really think he was super lock scum. It was weak at best. I don't think I even voted him did I?
Then why throw out that read? What was the purpose?
Because it looks an awful lot like you're trying to either:
1) bait people into pushing DF.
2) discredit DF, who is pushing scum!xata.
I don't see any town motivation behind that post, so please explain it to me.
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On June 28 2017 02:55 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2017 02:51 ruXxar wrote:On June 28 2017 02:31 Palmar wrote:On June 28 2017 02:13 ruXxar wrote:On June 28 2017 01:59 Palmar wrote:On June 28 2017 01:54 ruXxar wrote:On June 28 2017 01:53 Palmar wrote:
Can someone please tell me why I am mafia?
Note: if your argument is that I've been less active and less deeply involved than normal, can you provide an explanation as to why that discrepancy means I am mafia? How about you tell us why you are town? 1) I haven't played much, but when I have I have done it with the sole intent of making reads or solving the game. I haven't engaged in any arguments or pointless fights or otherwise created content just to create it. Almost all my posts are reflections on reading a filter or commentary on something that interests me. 2) I tryhard when I'm mafia. I always do it because the QT sort of forces me to. I have my teammates there right in front of me and I get far more of a "team boost" than I do as town. In general, my play is extremely similar to a baseline of "act like a normal human being" when I'm mafia. On the other hand, when I'm town I play a myriad of styles, from lurking afk to spamming to playing characters or even having multiple personalities. 3) While some have called my reads shallow, they're all based on reality. I read something, think something about it and run with it. 4) I care more about being right than surviving. I could easily have jumped the Rels wagon, but I just don't think it's the best lynch. I really, really think btdt is 100% going to flip mafia this game. I don't really think Rels will. I will obviously lynch Rels over myself, but it's not what I want. I am truly disappointed people are buying btdt's act. Rayn saying a guy who has been here over a year is a "new player" is just... meh. 1) Engaging with people is what the game is all about. If you don't do it, we have a hard time discerning people's alignments. Which is exactly the reason why people want to lynch you. Not participating in the game makes it harder for town to win, not easier. 2) Meta read 3) You didn't really seem to run with it day when you said that darth foley was possible mafia. You didn't even expand on what you read that made you think that. On June 16 2017 16:39 Palmar wrote:
I clicked darthfoley's filter. I don't like it much, and I would expect him to be a relatively easy townread if he was town. I think he is a good candidate for being mafia. Where is the follow up? Where is the reasoning? Where is the push? 4) If you cared about being right, then why didn't you push your scum read on DF?¨ Because I didn't really think he was super lock scum. It was weak at best. I don't think I even voted him did I? Then why throw out that read? What was the purpose? Because it looks an awful lot like you're trying to either: 1) bait people into pushing DF. 2) discredit DF, who is pushing scum!xata. I don't see any town motivation behind that post, so please explain it to me. To give people an idea about what I felt about him at the time. I follow a very, very simple script when I play mafia. I give my reads and I vote for the person I believe is most likely to flip mafia. I sometimes scumread half the game, but it's really only who I try to kill that matters. Like, I'm currently saying FF may be mafia based on his contributions today, so you guys know how I feel about that, but I'm not trying to kill him, it's not my strongest read. I am sticking with my strongest read. When I discredit people I do it like I just did with rayn, I attack their premise instead of their alignment. There is no need to call someone scum to discredit him, it's much easier to call them bad. I don't think rayn is mafia, but god do I know he's bad.
There's nothing in here that makes me feel better about you, sorry.
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On June 28 2017 03:10 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2017 03:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am not going to lynch my townread when the other wagons are my top scumread and someone i have no idea of. So there is that. This is my scumread 8:::::::::::::D And this is your townread 8::::D Size matters.
lol
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On June 28 2017 03:15 Palmar wrote:
well I gotta go.
Strength of reads from town to scum: (but take with a grain of salt if I flip, I am after all only slightly involved).
VA/ES/disfo
Skynx/rayn
ruxxar/Rels
Blazinghand
fecalfeast
btdt
I'm very interested in hearing about your #2 fefe scum read.
Got a case?
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I smell some shenanigans here, and I don't like it.
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BH's fake enthusiasm is getting old. Please change the channel.
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On June 28 2017 08:02 Xatalos wrote:
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K so we're lynching rels, btdt or BH tomorrow.
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Btdt, explain something to me.
You think that skynx is scum.
Skynx is voting for palmar.
You are voting for palmar.
You switch to rels and now skynx calls you scum.
Now you are even more sure that skynx is scum.
You switch your vote back to palmar, once again voting together with your 100% scum read skynx.
How does that make any sense?
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If btdt is scum, he's playing the scum game of his life.
He has me pretty convinced that he's bad town.
Skynx also has displayed signs of towniness.
Not lynching skynx or btdt today.
I'm still on the 2 mafia on annul train, so lynching rels is still my goal.
I have growing doubts about fefe.
I feel like he's been too anonymous.
I can't remember anything significant he's done.
All he's done every cycle is just sheeping people instead of pushing his own lynches.
Going to read his filter again.
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On June 29 2017 01:00 VayneAuthority wrote:
well the only reason i stopped pushing fecalfeast was because he was cop confirmed town but apparently that was wrong? Hard to follow what is happening in this game even with nothing going on, too much spam
Yes, it was wrong. Turns out the SL parity cop check was between TW and Chez, as confirmed by ES(our tracker).
TW flipped scum.
Chez flipped town veteran.
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On June 29 2017 00:41 disformation wrote:
well if you got time can you point out the signs of towniness that skynx displayed?
Palmar pointed it out already, but this post by skynx does not come from a mafia mindset imo.
On June 28 2017 07:43 Skynx wrote:
Scenarios of BH making the play he did few pages back:
Palmar is scum with BH: BH trying to save scumbro, needs 2 more votes. Highly unlikely and super duper risky either way if all scum sits on one train, they would prolly just bus.
Palmar is town, BH is scum: Showing town tendancy ahead of mislynch? Not sure if he's under serious threat to do that kind of play, if he just flew under the radar i think would be much better from his pow if palmar flips town.
BH is town: Baiting i guess??? Regardless of Palmars alignment scum could follow here, since getting off the train if scumbuddy is getting lynched wont hurt them and vice versa. Really if he's baiting it just doesn't makes sense as any follower is pretty much nai.
BH making that play as town is highly unlikely to me.
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On June 29 2017 00:43 disformation wrote:
would also appreciate it if you could explain how btdt's eod can be town
My read on btdt is not based solely on his eod, but his total play throughout the game.
1) I'm seeing a strong consistency in his play where he simply hasn't read half the game, and makes claims based on his memory or vote counts which(no offense) are way wrong more often than not.
2) He's getting fired up and fighting back. It shows tenacity in fighting for what he believes is an unjust wrong.
That kind of reaction comes more often from town than mafia.
3) As for the EOD, I'm sure you read my post where I question btdt about it.
I think he's just a very shortsighted player.
It's the same thing with how he was fighting chez over the xata cop claim.
It's just bad bad bad all the way through.
If he was mafia, at least his team should have the decency to tell him to shut up and stop looking so obviously terrible.
If his gameplan was going into this game not reading anything and playing dumb, then kudos to him, he did a good job.
But I've never seen mafia be so obviously wrong about so many facts in the game in such a consistent manner, and yet he keeps trucking on without a care for how bad he looks.
I'd let that slide as town.
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On June 28 2017 17:22 disformation wrote:
"So when I realized "dude, I got the hammer", I hammered Rels, because Skynx was super happy with voting Palmar. I expected Skynx to INSTANTLY retract his super weird town thing he had on me and he did, so I was super fine switching back to Palmar. "
Can you provide an actual quote for this.
Cause that shit makes absolutely no sense.
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That is fucked up logic if I've ever seen it.
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He should be lynched just for that alone.
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LIKE ZERO FUCKING SENSE?!!!!
WTF AM I JUST BAD OR DOES THIS MAKE ZERO SENSE?!!!
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Sorry about that, I'm getting drunk.
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EPT
