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On June 27 2017 01:52 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2017 01:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 27 2017 01:43 Palmar wrote: It's really just HF's insistence at some point that rayn is mafia that keeps that door open. No idea actually if hf changed his mind later.
what? how do you not understand that? I think you're town for your content, but for some reason hf kept calling you mafia early day 1, and HF is like at least mid-tier, possibly high-tier player.
Yet he was wrong on his last wish lynches of koshi and sicklucker.
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On June 27 2017 02:00 Blazinghand wrote: People who don't want to lynch BTDT today: what's your reasoning?
Btdt highlights:
- fighting vs chez on xata cop claim. - analysis of vote count after grack lynch.
Both are such bad attempts at trying to do something productive for town that I think careful mafia would've tried hard with a solid case or simply not said anything at all.
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On June 27 2017 02:16 Fecalfeast wrote: I'm just gonna sheep disfo because if he's wood league I'm dirt league
What happened to our hard fought trust? I won't let you down again.
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On June 27 2017 02:45 Palmar wrote: I would probably be okay with sheeping rayn, just so it's out there.
aka, if Rels reads the thread he needs to be aware that I'm potentially okay with killing him.
My not-today list is: disfo, ruxx, skynx, VA, ES, rayn.
The remaining four, bh, btdt, rels and ff are either scummy (btdt) or I haven't read them yet (the other three)
I'm anxiously waiting for your opinion.
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On June 27 2017 06:27 VayneAuthority wrote: well he is somewhat right you know. their reads werent that great and they were scumreading eachother and they were all over the place. Which is why its super obvious there had to be an old player on the mafia team
On June 27 2017 06:27 Skynx wrote: Strategizing night actions is my forte and esprcially N2 doesn't makes sense. DF and you are the universal townread leaders, if scum commits on DF means they are not medic dodging, on top of that you have 2kp against 1 possible save so i would 100% kill you N2.
VA mentioned earlier that N1 kills points towards an elder member of tl mafia being scum, with which i agree and in that case they surely wouldn't not shoot you.
Coincidence? Don't mind my paranoia over here.
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On June 27 2017 07:47 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2017 06:31 ruXxar wrote:On June 27 2017 06:27 VayneAuthority wrote: well he is somewhat right you know. their reads werent that great and they were scumreading eachother and they were all over the place. Which is why its super obvious there had to be an old player on the mafia team On June 27 2017 06:27 Skynx wrote: Strategizing night actions is my forte and esprcially N2 doesn't makes sense. DF and you are the universal townread leaders, if scum commits on DF means they are not medic dodging, on top of that you have 2kp against 1 possible save so i would 100% kill you N2.
VA mentioned earlier that N1 kills points towards an elder member of tl mafia being scum, with which i agree and in that case they surely wouldn't not shoot you. Coincidence? Don't mind my paranoia over here. I don't think we should be paranoid about VA. The single death N3 is accounted for
I wasn't serious about that
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On June 27 2017 18:38 Palmar wrote: Wait, why would he know he was roleblocked when there are no notifications?
Read the thread please...
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Can you read the people that actually are lynch targets today palmar?
Want some Thoughts.
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On June 27 2017 18:54 Palmar wrote: I've started reading Rels' filter.
First of all, I still like the fact that he recognizes I'm not mafia, that there is no way I play this way as mafia. Obviously there's the problem of he might simply know I'm not mafia. People are already accusing him of TMI regarding some lynches so you can add that to the pile.
He's also spent the last few pages of his filter basically doing nothing but talking about how good he is and bitching about being scumread.
Still not as convinced on him as I am on btdt (who just popped in until the pressure was off him. He seems extremely uninterested in actually lynching me, which is strange given how strongly he scumreads me).
What do you think about his progression of reads throughout the game? I feel like he is reading a totally different game than I am. Especially his town read of grack and ES didn't make much sense to me from how the game was going.
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On June 27 2017 19:55 Palmar wrote: But I haven't gone far back enough in Rels' filter to find the justifications for those reads.
But as someone who is often always right, I hate it when people call me scum for being right.
It has nothing to do with being right, but his reasons. I called him out on his reads on Es and grack before either of them flipped.
The outcome of the flip is irrelevant.
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On June 27 2017 23:01 Eversince wrote: I'm going to vote Palmar for now. I think he has a better chance at flipping mafia than Rels right now. I do need to read Rels filter again but Palmar seems to not play when there is no pressure on him. Also it makes no sense if he finally read the thread, he should question my result on Rels instead of spouting info on if the mods would msg me for no result vs RB. Which makes me think he's probably lying and just posting for the sake of posting. (Why would I claim to have been RB'd vs no result when I had already posted a no result before? Implying that this day opening was different.) So like Disfo said "Make me think BTDT is mafia" Go!
Yes, his sudden attack on your claim is a bit disturbing. It seemed as a desperate attempt at finding something to stick onto you.
You could sense his eagerness in trying to push that angle.
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I like where this is going.
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On June 28 2017 00:12 VayneAuthority wrote: there is rarely 3rd parties in tl standard mafia games, they are usually a rice and chicken kind of affair.
its really good? (I don't know what it means)
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Next time I'm scum I promise to only shoot afk people.
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On June 28 2017 00:15 Rels wrote: I started catching up last night and I got too frustrated to continue. I'm getting scumread for everything and their inverse.
Ruxxar thinks I'm too right. disfo thinks I'm too clean. rayn thinks all my reads are bad, even listing false stuff in his list.
All these things don't even make sense to be true at the same time. So. Ask me directly if you want to ask something. Aside from that I'm ignoring you.
Who do we lynch today?
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On June 28 2017 00:34 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2017 01:04 ruXxar wrote: I like BH today, shows very towny spirit in trying to figure the game out. Also his eod discussion from last night was very spontaneous and felt very free flowing, not constructed.
I will throw him in my town pile for now. lol
Who do we lynch today?
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On June 28 2017 01:53 Palmar wrote: Can someone please tell me why I am mafia?
Note: if your argument is that I've been less active and less deeply involved than normal, can you provide an explanation as to why that discrepancy means I am mafia?
How about you tell us why you are town?
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On June 28 2017 01:59 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2017 01:54 ruXxar wrote:On June 28 2017 01:53 Palmar wrote: Can someone please tell me why I am mafia?
Note: if your argument is that I've been less active and less deeply involved than normal, can you provide an explanation as to why that discrepancy means I am mafia? How about you tell us why you are town? 1) I haven't played much, but when I have I have done it with the sole intent of making reads or solving the game. I haven't engaged in any arguments or pointless fights or otherwise created content just to create it. Almost all my posts are reflections on reading a filter or commentary on something that interests me. 2) I tryhard when I'm mafia. I always do it because the QT sort of forces me to. I have my teammates there right in front of me and I get far more of a "team boost" than I do as town. In general, my play is extremely similar to a baseline of "act like a normal human being" when I'm mafia. On the other hand, when I'm town I play a myriad of styles, from lurking afk to spamming to playing characters or even having multiple personalities. 3) While some have called my reads shallow, they're all based on reality. I read something, think something about it and run with it. 4) I care more about being right than surviving. I could easily have jumped the Rels wagon, but I just don't think it's the best lynch. I really, really think btdt is 100% going to flip mafia this game. I don't really think Rels will. I will obviously lynch Rels over myself, but it's not what I want. I am truly disappointed people are buying btdt's act. Rayn saying a guy who has been here over a year is a "new player" is just... meh.
1) Engaging with people is what the game is all about. If you don't do it, we have a hard time discerning people's alignments. Which is exactly the reason why people want to lynch you. Not participating in the game makes it harder for town to win, not easier.
2) Meta read
3) You didn't really seem to run with it day when you said that darth foley was possible mafia. You didn't even expand on what you read that made you think that.
On June 16 2017 16:39 Palmar wrote: I clicked darthfoley's filter. I don't like it much, and I would expect him to be a relatively easy townread if he was town. I think he is a good candidate for being mafia.
Where is the follow up? Where is the reasoning? Where is the push?
4) If you cared about being right, then why didn't you push your scum read on DF?¨
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On June 28 2017 02:16 Fecalfeast wrote: Hm how do I omgus if I'm already votig palmar
Quick! Unvote then unleash the rage.
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