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disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 21 2017 15:55 GMT
#3978
mh given es's filter i think she will likely vote the gracken.
though not sure what her sl stance is. posts imply a scum read as well?

a short list by es would be nice, because it is fairly hard to get her stances from her filter.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 21 2017 15:56 GMT
#3979
given that this is tl.net we will probably vote some random low volume poster noone has talked about all day.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 21 2017 15:56 GMT
#3980
and by vote i mean lynch
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 21 2017 17:58 GMT
#4014
i think gracks vote is nai. sl was the biggest wagon at the time?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 21 2017 17:59 GMT
#4015
oh no wait it was 2-2 nvm
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 21 2017 18:00 GMT
#4016
nah. still might be wifmo at taht stage.
but lets see some flips first
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 21 2017 18:30 GMT
#4031
On June 22 2017 03:28 ruXxar wrote:
Either way, if grack or SL flips town, then the other person is pretty much auto lynch.

bah. that really really really depends on what happens eod today.
if it stays like this this might have merit.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 21 2017 18:34 GMT
#4037
On June 22 2017 03:31 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2017 03:30 disformation wrote:
On June 22 2017 03:28 ruXxar wrote:
Either way, if grack or SL flips town, then the other person is pretty much auto lynch.

bah. that really really really depends on what happens eod today.
if it stays like this this might have merit.


If it stays like this then it's a fact.

disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 21 2017 18:35 GMT
#4038
On June 22 2017 03:34 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2017 03:31 ruXxar wrote:
On June 22 2017 03:30 disformation wrote:
On June 22 2017 03:28 ruXxar wrote:
Either way, if grack or SL flips town, then the other person is pretty much auto lynch.

bah. that really really really depends on what happens eod today.
if it stays like this this might have merit.


If it stays like this then it's a fact.


oops.
i really really dont like you jumping to conclusions b4 the flip and trying to auto through the entire game.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 21 2017 18:37 GMT
#4041
On June 22 2017 03:37 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2017 03:35 disformation wrote:
On June 22 2017 03:34 disformation wrote:
On June 22 2017 03:31 ruXxar wrote:
On June 22 2017 03:30 disformation wrote:
On June 22 2017 03:28 ruXxar wrote:
Either way, if grack or SL flips town, then the other person is pretty much auto lynch.

bah. that really really really depends on what happens eod today.
if it stays like this this might have merit.


If it stays like this then it's a fact.


oops.
i really really dont like you jumping to conclusions b4 the flip and trying to auto through the entire game.


I'm just trying to express how strongly I feel about it.

*sigh*
fair enough
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 21 2017 18:52 GMT
#4055
On June 22 2017 03:38 sicklucker wrote:
disinfo let me try to change your mind since im pretty sure your one of the towns on this wagon and your here. what are your current problems with me this games to big to remember

eh lemme try to give you a tldr.
you were pushing annul super damn hard, but never explained why, although i asked you.
you had a basically false tr on xata. as in that tr was based on stuff that wasnt true.
then you admitted that annul was a bit town eod, but that didnt seem to bother you.
after the annul flip you had a few posts saying that the voting stuff didnt necessairly make xata scum.
ppl scumreading you tend to get shot at night.
you had a uncharacteristically active d1 and fell off super hard after that. though yeah d2 was kinda auto.

rels also has some stuffs here:
On June 21 2017 20:44 Rels wrote:
More killer stuff against SL, during N1. He can't explain why suddenly his Xata read changes just because it was a contested lynch. If he's scum he KNOWS Xata is gonna be probably killed soon, maybe even vig'd.
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On June 16 2017 21:30 sicklucker wrote:
This is my tenitive reads list from most likely town to most likely scum.

Fecalfeast
darthfoley
Rels
disformation
Palmar
Ruxxar
raynpelikoneet
Koshi

^ id be kind of surprised if these guys were scum
btdm
ruXxar
Tumblewood
Xatalos
Grackaroni
Skynx
Vivax
Eversince
Holyflare
marvellosity

I doubt its that accurate since theres alot of people and just started but I thought id share about where my heads at

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On June 16 2017 21:36 Holyflare wrote:
On June 16 2017 21:30 sicklucker wrote:
This is my tenitive reads list from most likely town to most likely scum.

Fecalfeast
darthfoley
Rels
disformation
Palmar
Ruxxar
raynpelikoneet
Koshi

^ id be kind of surprised if these guys were scum
btdm
ruXxar
Tumblewood
Xatalos
Grackaroni
Skynx
Vivax
Eversince
Holyflare
marvellosity

I doubt its that accurate since theres alot of people and just started but I thought id share about where my heads at


Nothing has changed. Absolutely 0 things have changed since you independently town read Xatalos based on his play. Zero. Zilch. Nada.

Why is he not on your town list?

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On June 16 2017 21:43 Holyflare wrote:
You're so full of crap!

On June 16 2017 04:54 sicklucker wrote:
meh I dont think xatas filter is that bad. at least his ideas are unconventional to the thread which I kind of expect his town play


On June 16 2017 07:48 sicklucker wrote:
it kind of makes it easy that all my town reads are voting annul (ff rels ruxxarand to a lesser degree xata)


On June 16 2017 07:49 sicklucker wrote:
On June 16 2017 07:47 Holyflare wrote:
On June 16 2017 07:45 Eversince wrote:
This is going to make me look like garbage.

I haven't read anything since pg 35ish. Give me the the rough of what's happen between now and then for Xata, Annul, and SL.

I don't have time to fact check so my vote is entirely blind at this point.


sl came to the thread and town read xatalos because xatalos has different reads to most of the game (when in fact xatalos' reads are blending with the rest of the game

sl says i'm mafia for calling all the town leaders mafia and it's my mafia meta when 100% of other games he states my mafia meta is to push lurkers

sl is trying to force the wagon onto someone who is blatantly self-preserving and revealing his plan for all to see, who stubbornly refuses to change his reads despite everyone yelling at him mafia

sl is mafia


I said that because xata had a mafia read on ryan and everyone else town read him. get over it you lost save your buddy



What has changed since this in any way that changes Xatalos' alignment?


Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 21:56 sicklucker wrote:
On June 16 2017 21:43 Holyflare wrote:
You're so full of crap!

On June 16 2017 04:54 sicklucker wrote:
meh I dont think xatas filter is that bad. at least his ideas are unconventional to the thread which I kind of expect his town play


On June 16 2017 07:48 sicklucker wrote:
it kind of makes it easy that all my town reads are voting annul (ff rels ruxxarand to a lesser degree xata)


On June 16 2017 07:49 sicklucker wrote:
On June 16 2017 07:47 Holyflare wrote:
On June 16 2017 07:45 Eversince wrote:
This is going to make me look like garbage.

I haven't read anything since pg 35ish. Give me the the rough of what's happen between now and then for Xata, Annul, and SL.

I don't have time to fact check so my vote is entirely blind at this point.


sl came to the thread and town read xatalos because xatalos has different reads to most of the game (when in fact xatalos' reads are blending with the rest of the game

sl says i'm mafia for calling all the town leaders mafia and it's my mafia meta when 100% of other games he states my mafia meta is to push lurkers

sl is trying to force the wagon onto someone who is blatantly self-preserving and revealing his plan for all to see, who stubbornly refuses to change his reads despite everyone yelling at him mafia

sl is mafia


I said that because xata had a mafia read on ryan and everyone else town read him. get over it you lost save your buddy



What has changed since this in any way that changes Xatalos' alignment?


the other wagon was town in a really close and contested vote...

That highly suggests hes mafia you know this your just trying to make me look bad

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On June 16 2017 21:58 Holyflare wrote:
I don't give a crap what mafia nonsense you're spouting. You led a wagon on a towny and have absolutely no reason to town read xata. I have MULTIPLE times corrected you that xata doesn't scum read rayn. Which is THE ONLY reason you said you town read Xata despite saying he has opposite readS!! to the thread, you could only quote one and it was wrong.

Then you pushed a wagon on a guy who was not scummy, openly referenced his grand survival plan multiple times and then even you acknowledged he was looking towny.

Then you try and take someone referencing the one troll post you did early game (because let's face it you really did nothing else) as a slight town read because she didn't call you mafia from one post. The thing is she didn't call you town either.

You're worming your way through falsehoods, trying to push events that never happened. Palmar didn't spite vote you from last game, I didn't vote you with no case, vivax wasn't "being bad". All of these are reconstructions of what is actually happening in the game. You even said if palmar was around he'd move his vote but he was around and said he'd keep it there.

Then Eversince comes and has no reason not to vote you. Xatalos' flip will certainly give a shit tonne of information and i hope to god he's town because then her not voting you is the final nail in your coffin.

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On June 16 2017 22:02 Holyflare wrote:
On June 16 2017 08:16 sicklucker wrote:
to be fair tho I mostly drove the close lynch. and I know im town so from my perspective I dont think xata necessary has to be mafia. but I completely understand people who think he and I am from what happened I might think the same


This is posted after the lynch. You don't even think it makes him mafia. A contested lynch means shit all. It's mafias job to make lynches mean nothing. It could be two towns, one mafia one town, anything. You haven't once used any information from it to make the reads nonsense you're posting.

You have me in a lynch list with xatalos who you are now calling mafia despite me trying to also hammer him. You have really really bad reads in this list. You have Eversince who has been pushed by vivax for eternity and myself since the flip, no evaluation.

You take bull shit posts and turn it into bigger bull shit reads and have no game sense. This is not the town SL I know that is solving conspiracy theories. This is an sl who more than likely saw his buddy xatalos up for lynch and fabricated nonsense to save him. When was the last time you tried on a day 1? When was there a time you've ever given a shit enough for a day 1 lynch to matter so much over a really thin town read on xata? Never, that's when.

I will make people see the light. Fiery vengeance will rain down upon you.

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On June 16 2017 22:06 sicklucker wrote:
alright im not arguing with a lawyer anymore. unless your up for lynch


disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 21 2017 18:54 GMT
#4058
@grack if you are town now would be a good time for some reads n stuff
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 21 2017 18:54 GMT
#4059
so yeah dunno. i actually do want to see both sl and grack state some scum reads or fight each other n stuff
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 21 2017 19:14 GMT
#4068
On June 22 2017 04:06 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2017 03:54 disformation wrote:
so yeah dunno. i actually do want to see both sl and grack state some scum reads or fight each other n stuff


If you go back I actually did believe my annul scum read. Honestly I cant even remember what they were its been awile but it is in my filter.

Day 1 I didnt even read the thread. I just read the filters of about 1/4th of the game. I read untill I found someone i thought was scum and then pushed said person. I was quite convinced they were scum since I acualy got my lynched and convinced a few towns. but the difference between me and scum was that I acualy wanted this lynch from the start, they were just opportunistic to save xata.

As for xata I grazed his filter half way through day 1 and I didnt think it was bad enough to lynch him over anull and 22 other people it was borderline null to me at the time.

As for me thinking annul was town at the end I only made 1 small comment. "stop trying to be slightly convincing" which does not really sound like "i thought annul was town" that was just lawyey hf putting words in my mouth. but why is it bad for a town to get second thoughts on lynching a town? That just means im paying attention

yeah the problem i have is that you only said something like "i dont like annuls filter" or "annuls filter is bad" and never explained why when i asked. so i am having a tad of a hard time to judge stuff here.
On June 22 2017 04:09 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2017 22:34 sicklucker wrote:
On June 18 2017 18:18 Vivax wrote:
If Xata flips indeed scum.

On June 16 2017 08:02 Half the Sky wrote:
Final Vote Count - Day 1


annul (7): sicklucker, ruXxar , Fecalfeast, Xatalos, Rels, Grackaroni, Eversince
Xatalos (6): darthfoley, Koshi, Skynx, disformation, annul, Holyflare


I'm believing it's really simple and this is mafia.



i think your right about the logic wrong about the people. but ill get to that in a second.

Heres the vote count when I started the annul train. Notice xata is not really at a very high risk of being lynched at this time. The argument that I am mafia for pushing a wagon to save him is false as koshi was the leading wagon at the time and he flipped town. If I was truly mafia trying to save xata why do I not vote koshi. Why do I start a completely new wagon instead of joining one that is already started and has commited votes? Why do I take the longest road to complete my task.

No I am just a town that thought I found mafia. In a close vote between my target and a mafia many mafia saw the opportunity to save there team mate but it was not the people who started the wagon it was the people at the end of it.

On June 16 2017 02:09 Half the Sky wrote:
Vote Count - Day 1


Koshi (5): Holyflare, disformation, beentheredonethat, Vivax, annul, ruXxar, Vivax
ruXxar (3): Fecalfeast, Xatalos, Vivax
Xatalos (3): darthfoley, Koshi, Skynx
raynpelikoneet (1): Xatalos, sicklucker, Tumblewood
marvellosity (1): Koshi, Tumblewood
sicklucker (1): Palmar
Palmar (0): Koshi, Skynx
beentheredonethat (0): Koshi
Eversince (0): sicklucker

Not voted (8): Rels, Damdred, VayneAuthority, raynpelikoneet, AMG, marvellosity, Grackaroni, Eversince

Half the Sky is getting ready to throw Koshi out of her whiskey bar.
Day 1 ends in at 23:00 GMT (+00:00).


The voting thread is here and only votes in the voting thread will be counted.




these guys are more likely the mafia this is the correct way to use vote logic my friend

On June 16 2017 08:02 Half the Sky wrote:
Final Vote Count - Day 1


annul (7): sicklucker, ruXxar, Fecalfeast, Xatalos, , rels, grackoni,, eversince ,
Xatalos (6):
darthfoley, Koshi, Skynx, disformation, annul, Holyflare
sicklucker (2): Palmar, Holyflare, Vivax
Koshi (1): Holyflare, disformation, beentheredonethat, Vivax, annul, ruXxar, Vivax
marvellosity (1): Koshi, Tumblewood
Skynx (1): VayneAuthority
ruXxar (0): Fecalfeast, Xatalos, Vivax, annul
Tumblewood (0): ruXxar
Palmar (0): sicklucker
raynpelikoneet (0): Xatalos, sicklucker, Tumblewood
Palmar (0): Koshi, Skynx
beentheredonethat (0): Koshi
Eversince (0): sicklucker

Not voted (4): Damdred, raynpelikoneet, AMG, marvellosity

Half the Sky is getting ready to throw annul out of her whiskey bar.
Day 1 ends in at 23:00 GMT (+00:00).


The voting thread is here and only votes in the voting thread will be counted.



I doubt its all four but those four have the highest percentage to be mafia in the game not me.


I think this was my best post in the game the doubters should reread it

ah yeah.
you are technically absolutely right.
which makes this the perfect scum post to make when you deliberately did something to screw up vca.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 21 2017 19:18 GMT
#4078
On June 22 2017 04:18 Blazinghand wrote:
I have a question. Is Damdred still in this game?

nah he got modkilled and flipped vt.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 21 2017 19:21 GMT
#4087
@BH:
try: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/523282-tl-mafia-lxxv?user=Half the Sky
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 21 2017 19:31 GMT
#4093
i think rayn said he will be back um... 2 or 1 h b4 deadline
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 21 2017 19:32 GMT
#4094
i will hand out scores for grack vs sicklucker - round 1 in about 30mins
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 21 2017 19:48 GMT
#4106
ah i think ill skip the score crap.
see sl here is my problem:
you came into the thread mentioned a scum read on rels, but dont want to start a wagon. where is the d1 fire?
then you single me out, buddy up to me and spend a whole lot of posts on trying to convice me you are town.

0% figuring out the game
100% playing for survival

and your posts now with "if grack is mafia we win bigly" dont even sound like you are convinced he is scum
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 21 2017 19:50 GMT
#4108
bah now grack is starting too
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