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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 14 2017 17:49 GMT
#561
now that koshi has defended ruxxar I'm happy lynch koshi again
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 14 2017 17:51 GMT
#562
well backtracking on the btdt scum read is not 100% scum. could be town reevaluating on "his filter actually looked better than i remembered". but then it is odd he was like:
On June 14 2017 21:49 Koshi wrote:
guys can we talk about how btdt is mafia?

as that sounds fairly sure.

not a 100% thing though
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 14 2017 17:54 GMT
#563
ah and directly after that he just jumps on palmar cause why not.
so i had a bit of the impression he was desperate for a scumread or something
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 14 2017 17:55 GMT
#564
even says:
On June 14 2017 23:44 Koshi wrote:
I need mafia reads.
Maybe Palmar and marv are mafia again.
Happened in another big game as well.

One can dream.

Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
June 14 2017 17:55 GMT
#565
On June 15 2017 02:54 disformation wrote:
ah and directly after that he just jumps on palmar cause why not.
so i had a bit of the impression he was desperate for a scumread or something


I had that feeling when he posted the caselet on btdt
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
June 14 2017 17:58 GMT
#566
Hm... I took the palmar thing and 'i need mafia reads' as a joke. I will reread later on
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
June 14 2017 17:58 GMT
#567
On June 15 2017 02:31 Vivax wrote:
They both look fairly scummy atm, but Koshi is way more posty while it's really hard to fish something out of Ruxxar. I get the feeling he's in the thread all the time but holds back from posting more on purpose.

That said, I'd switch to Ruxxar with enough followers. But right now the Koshi wagon is big and big wagons are what we need.


Why do you need more people to join a wagon before you commit? There's plenty of time left in today. If you want a ruxxar wagon, make it happen. This looks like useless hedging
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
June 14 2017 17:59 GMT
#568
Meh, rayn is still MIA.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
June 14 2017 18:01 GMT
#569
DF: I wasn't the only one who missed Skynx's main point initially. After he explained further, I actually agreed that it looked worse for ruxxar than disfo. So what's the issue?

And I wouldn't really call my filter "filler".
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
June 14 2017 18:02 GMT
#570
On June 15 2017 02:58 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2017 02:31 Vivax wrote:
They both look fairly scummy atm, but Koshi is way more posty while it's really hard to fish something out of Ruxxar. I get the feeling he's in the thread all the time but holds back from posting more on purpose.

That said, I'd switch to Ruxxar with enough followers. But right now the Koshi wagon is big and big wagons are what we need.


Why do you need more people to join a wagon before you commit? There's plenty of time left in today. If you want a ruxxar wagon, make it happen. This looks like useless hedging


Cause five wagons with 2 people each isn't a threat to anyone.

Day 1 is forging a club of townies to smack people with who think they can get away with anything.
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
June 14 2017 18:04 GMT
#571
On June 15 2017 02:16 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2017 23:48 annul wrote:
On June 14 2017 23:42 Koshi wrote:
On June 14 2017 23:41 Holyflare wrote:
I like vivax's inconsistency pick up but his annul read is stating the obvious and I seriously get the feeling that a mafia vivax could have just got lucky picking up on the inconsistency.

But that's maximum fear wifom for no reason because I still like it.

True. If mafia gives us townreads like that I am ok with not lynching them for a cycle.


On June 14 2017 23:43 Koshi wrote:
Town
TW town for calling fefe hilariously suspicious.
Fefe town for being ok with that and believing it.
Disformation town for not jumping on my wagon while thinking my opening was potential mafia. Also serious bait was hilarious, big laughs were had.
Beentheredonethat is more likely overeager “wrong” town than active pushing a wrong agenda mafia. And his aggressiveness continues over multiple pages, he is now quite confirmed town.
Damdred is town because his list post is very close to what I could think. Just like his read on me it comes from town and not mafia.
Darthfoley town because pushed the game forward with his Xatalos/Ruxxar posts. And overall is playing really well. Overall playing style he can do it as mafia but I don’t think he is doing it here as mafia.

Town with minus points.
Skynx started out a bit out of place. But picked it up very well. Sassy answer on btdt and loads of action.
Vivax made a pretty good read on Annul. But I don’t like his playstyle atm

Null
Holyflare his vote on me is incorrect. I don’t like how his gameplan feels set up.


so you are okay with keeping him around if he is mafia if he "gives town reads like that" -- implying you agree with his town read on me to such a strong extent that even if he is mafia under HF's WIFOM scenario you feel like he is beneficial to keep around................... and then like 2 minutes later you post a reads post and i am not even listed at all?


I guess I see what you mean here but why is it scummy rather than not worth adding? If you got spewed town there's no way to really confirm it until vivax dies

Where u go annul
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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
June 14 2017 18:04 GMT
#572
There's still a question open for you df.

Why is someone mafia for admitting to having no reads?

You call annul mafia for cop out from giving reads, so you're requesting someone to give you some forced reads in the case that he doesn't have any?
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
June 14 2017 18:06 GMT
#573
On June 15 2017 03:02 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2017 02:58 darthfoley wrote:
On June 15 2017 02:31 Vivax wrote:
They both look fairly scummy atm, but Koshi is way more posty while it's really hard to fish something out of Ruxxar. I get the feeling he's in the thread all the time but holds back from posting more on purpose.

That said, I'd switch to Ruxxar with enough followers. But right now the Koshi wagon is big and big wagons are what we need.


Why do you need more people to join a wagon before you commit? There's plenty of time left in today. If you want a ruxxar wagon, make it happen. This looks like useless hedging


Cause five wagons with 2 people each isn't a threat to anyone.

Day 1 is forging a club of townies to smack people with who think they can get away with anything.


Ruxxar seems like a fine lynch to me. There were basically several red flags already in his short filter. I'll elaborate in a bit.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
June 14 2017 18:12 GMT
#574
Btw could someone condense the case on Koshi? I get the fact that he said some 3P-sounding things earlier on, and isn't playing to his town (or scum?) meta... Still the huge wagon makes me wary.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 14 2017 18:13 GMT
#575
On June 15 2017 02:45 disformation wrote:
hmm... seems ruxxar used to play some time ago / back in the day.
anyone got an idea how he used to play or something?
If he only played a few games and was fairly townbaity that might explain things...

database says:
[S] Newbie Student Mafia XI Town Vanilla Endgamed Day 4
[N] Mafia in the Himalayas Mafia Vanilla Survived Day 6
[N] TL Mafia LXXI: Gaiden Mafia Vanilla Survived Day 6
[S] Newbie Student Mafia XIII Town Vanilla Survived Day 4
[M][T] Tropical Storm Mini Mafia Town Vanilla Survived Night 2
[T] The New Personality Mafia Town LightningStrike Lynched Day 1

any of you guys remember him?

just realized I also was in NSM XIII. xD
lemme check the filters after my hots game.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
June 14 2017 18:14 GMT
#576
+ Show Spoiler +
I mean, if 3P, the huge wagon could make sense, but scum Koshi shouldn't have gathered such a huge wagon easily IMO.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
June 14 2017 18:15 GMT
#577
On June 15 2017 03:01 Xatalos wrote:
DF: I wasn't the only one who missed Skynx's main point initially. After he explained further, I actually agreed that it looked worse for ruxxar than disfo. So what's the issue?

And I wouldn't really call my filter "filler".


Well I would, which is why I did. My point is that mafia are often looking to misconstrue people's posts and throwing around suspicion.

@ Vivax. It's not that he didn't have reads, it's that he seemed to be ignoring the major event in the thread at the time. It's fine to be not super committed to early D1 reads, but I felt like the "I have no idea what to make of this" was a cop out to people's legit questions about it.
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
June 14 2017 18:16 GMT
#578
On June 15 2017 03:04 Vivax wrote:
There's still a question open for you df.

Why is someone mafia for admitting to having no reads?

You call annul mafia for cop out from giving reads, so you're requesting someone to give you some forced reads in the case that he doesn't have any?


I also just doubt that someone can have no opinion of HF v rayn v Koshi at this point.
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
June 14 2017 18:16 GMT
#579
On June 15 2017 03:12 Xatalos wrote:
Btw could someone condense the case on Koshi? I get the fact that he said some 3P-sounding things earlier on, and isn't playing to his town (or scum?) meta... Still the huge wagon makes me wary.

From what I gathered:

His meta is off and he acknowledged that it is off. He stated he will not look like his mafia meta this game. He seems to be fishing for scumreads and openly admits to it in thread.

Annul thinks he(koshi) should have included annul in his list post because he based a read on vivax on a read vivax gave to annul.

He went back and forth on btdt and he isn't pushing the thread forward. He jumped on palmar for no reason.

This is what I remember from other people's posts none of these points are mine.

I personally disagree that claiming to know your own meta is scummy and I think he has made some decent posts and one or two not so decent posts.
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
June 14 2017 18:17 GMT
#580
On June 15 2017 03:14 Xatalos wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
I mean, if 3P, the huge wagon could make sense, but scum Koshi shouldn't have gathered such a huge wagon easily IMO.

I agree with this sentiment.
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