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ruXxar
Norway5669 Posts
On June 28 2017 01:53 Palmar wrote: Can someone please tell me why I am mafia? Note: if your argument is that I've been less active and less deeply involved than normal, can you provide an explanation as to why that discrepancy means I am mafia? How about you tell us why you are town? | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25552 Posts
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
On June 28 2017 00:45 disformation wrote: hm. so votes are: 4 palmar 3 rels 1 btdt rels votes palmar palmar switches from btdt to rels bh slightly perfers rels per his filter btdt decides the lynch Maybe you should stop sucking and vote someone who is mafia? | ||
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disformation
Germany8352 Posts
On June 28 2017 01:54 Blazinghand wrote: hmm, ok, the only thing I don't get is, why are we assuming there's no JK? Didn't ES get RBed? On June 27 2017 07:33 Eversince wrote: You're super super mafia Disfo. 100%. I'm kidding, still forever townreading you. Update also; mods just forgot me, i didn't receive a check result back for like 20 mins and assumed I was RB'd. I got msged 50 mins after Day start. He didn't follow anyone. So nothing useful to report. I don't like Palmar immediately disappearing D4 after my claim. Pressure removed and he's gone again. His stuff on BTDT isn't great. He's not getting attention today and he's handily given rehashed of things that got discussed for over a week. What new point to the discussion did he actually generate? | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25552 Posts
Sorry Disfo that was a joke response, because you said "next person who asks is the lynch after Palmar" so I immediately asked again. I guess it didn't come across well. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25552 Posts
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
1) I haven't played much, but when I have I have done it with the sole intent of making reads or solving the game. I haven't engaged in any arguments or pointless fights or otherwise created content just to create it. Almost all my posts are reflections on reading a filter or commentary on something that interests me. 2) I tryhard when I'm mafia. I always do it because the QT sort of forces me to. I have my teammates there right in front of me and I get far more of a "team boost" than I do as town. In general, my play is extremely similar to a baseline of "act like a normal human being" when I'm mafia. On the other hand, when I'm town I play a myriad of styles, from lurking afk to spamming to playing characters or even having multiple personalities. 3) While some have called my reads shallow, they're all based on reality. I read something, think something about it and run with it. 4) I care more about being right than surviving. I could easily have jumped the Rels wagon, but I just don't think it's the best lynch. I really, really think btdt is 100% going to flip mafia this game. I don't really think Rels will. I will obviously lynch Rels over myself, but it's not what I want. I am truly disappointed people are buying btdt's act. Rayn saying a guy who has been here over a year is a "new player" is just... meh. | ||
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disformation
Germany8352 Posts
basically: you did play a bit d1, with that single player style or whatever. then you drop of the face of the earth until you get a few votes slapped at you. then you make a half-assed case on someone that look like you just went with the first remotely thing you can find. based only on d1 stuff. you didnt mention/notice btdt wasn't there at eod and the other stuff i pointed out earlier this day phase. you dont respond to me pointing that out. you dont look at the other parts of btdt's filter. you dont push btdt. instead you first make a super creepy buddy post onto me and now you start calling me names. there is 0 reason to think you are town. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25552 Posts
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
So I don't really care anymore, now I'm playing whenever I feel like doing something. I was never gonna participate in HF+Koshi spamfest on day 1, I just didn't want to. I am hoping to read FF before I go, but based just on today I feel like it's extremely likely that the mafia team is something like: ff+btdt+1 And I have no idea who that one is I might be missing. Also maybe I'll come back thinking FF is town if I actually read his filter, but he's not been very useful this cycle. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
On June 28 2017 02:01 disformation wrote: yo plammar: basically: you did play a bit d1, with that single player style or whatever. then you drop of the face of the earth until you get a few votes slapped at you. then you make a half-assed case on someone that look like you just went with the first remotely thing you can find. based only on d1 stuff. you didnt mention/notice btdt wasn't there at eod and the other stuff i pointed out earlier this day phase. you dont respond to me pointing that out. you dont look at the other parts of btdt's filter. you dont push btdt. instead you first make a super creepy buddy post onto me and now you start calling me names. there is 0 reason to think you are town. That's where you're wrong kiddo | ||
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disformation
Germany8352 Posts
will be back later. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
On June 28 2017 02:01 disformation wrote: yo plammar: basically: you did play a bit d1, with that single player style or whatever. then you drop of the face of the earth until you get a few votes slapped at you. Didn't feel like playing at that time. On June 28 2017 02:01 disformation wrote: then you make a half-assed case on someone that look like you just went with the first remotely thing you can find. based only on d1 stuff.. I have enough for a conviction, I don't need to read more. On June 28 2017 02:01 disformation wrote: you didnt mention/notice btdt wasn't there at eod and the other stuff i pointed out earlier this day phase. you dont respond to me pointing that out. Actually I did, I said that sure him being away at eod could be a super unlucky problem or a convenient excuse, it only marginally detracts from my case. On June 28 2017 02:01 disformation wrote: you dont look at the other parts of btdt's filter. No, I read enough to know he's mafia On June 28 2017 02:01 disformation wrote: you dont push btdt. Yes I do, to the point where I'm slowly eliminating most other people in order to prove he's the best lynch today. On June 28 2017 02:01 disformation wrote: instead you first make a super creepy buddy post onto me and now you start calling me names. You made a post that was like "I always forget you don't play on weekends", and then the thread moved away from me. I assumed it was you being a leader. In any case, you are leading this town. TL has a serious lack of people willing to do leadership. In general most townies don't really do much. It's always a good thing. I've never had a problem complementing people doing things I like. On June 28 2017 02:01 disformation wrote: there is 0 reason to think you are town. Yes there is! | ||
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ruXxar
Norway5669 Posts
On June 28 2017 01:59 Palmar wrote: 1) I haven't played much, but when I have I have done it with the sole intent of making reads or solving the game. I haven't engaged in any arguments or pointless fights or otherwise created content just to create it. Almost all my posts are reflections on reading a filter or commentary on something that interests me. 2) I tryhard when I'm mafia. I always do it because the QT sort of forces me to. I have my teammates there right in front of me and I get far more of a "team boost" than I do as town. In general, my play is extremely similar to a baseline of "act like a normal human being" when I'm mafia. On the other hand, when I'm town I play a myriad of styles, from lurking afk to spamming to playing characters or even having multiple personalities. 3) While some have called my reads shallow, they're all based on reality. I read something, think something about it and run with it. 4) I care more about being right than surviving. I could easily have jumped the Rels wagon, but I just don't think it's the best lynch. I really, really think btdt is 100% going to flip mafia this game. I don't really think Rels will. I will obviously lynch Rels over myself, but it's not what I want. I am truly disappointed people are buying btdt's act. Rayn saying a guy who has been here over a year is a "new player" is just... meh. 1) Engaging with people is what the game is all about. If you don't do it, we have a hard time discerning people's alignments. Which is exactly the reason why people want to lynch you. Not participating in the game makes it harder for town to win, not easier. 2) Meta read 3) You didn't really seem to run with it day when you said that darth foley was possible mafia. You didn't even expand on what you read that made you think that. On June 16 2017 16:39 Palmar wrote: I clicked darthfoley's filter. I don't like it much, and I would expect him to be a relatively easy townread if he was town. I think he is a good candidate for being mafia. Where is the follow up? Where is the reasoning? Where is the push? 4) If you cared about being right, then why didn't you push your scum read on DF?¨ | ||
Fecalfeast
Canada11355 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On June 28 2017 01:59 Palmar wrote: 1) I haven't played much, but when I have I have done it with the sole intent of making reads or solving the game. I haven't engaged in any arguments or pointless fights or otherwise created content just to create it. Almost all my posts are reflections on reading a filter or commentary on something that interests me. At least i don't care what you do when you are not here. I care about what you do when you are here. I don't really think your btdt case is scummy, i just think it is based on things that even btdt has cleared up before, yet you completely ignore these answers. at best Palmar, your case is lazy. And that's pretty much the only thing you have done. So yeah, atm you're not really helping yourself, and not helping the town if you are a part of it. I am pretty pissed off at myself because i cannot tell if that makes you mafia or not.  I thought i had something to 100% figure out your alignment but it turns out i missed one sentence in your post where i thought you were - after that - either having a super townie thought process or 100% contradicting yourself based on no new information.2) I tryhard when I'm mafia. I always do it because the QT sort of forces me to. I have my teammates there right in front of me and I get far more of a "team boost" than I do as town. In general, my play is extremely similar to a baseline of "act like a normal human being" when I'm mafia. On the other hand, when I'm town I play a myriad of styles, from lurking afk to spamming to playing characters or even having multiple personalities. Now this is factually false. 100% factually false. 3) While some have called my reads shallow, they're all based on reality. I read something, think something about it and run with it. Yes, but i can honestly see why people call then shallow. See my answer to the first part of your post. 4) I care more about being right than surviving. I could easily have jumped the Rels wagon, but I just don't think it's the best lynch. I really, really think btdt is 100% going to flip mafia this game. I don't really think Rels will. I will obviously lynch Rels over myself, but it's not what I want. I am truly disappointed people are buying btdt's act. Rayn saying a guy who has been here over a year is a "new player" is just... meh. These are the games btdt has played (+ some 2-3 games last couple of months). [S] Newbie Mafia XXI Mafia Framer Lynched Day 3 [S] Newbie Student Mafia XXII Mafia Roleblocker Endgamed Day 4 [T] Dota 2 Mafia Town Shadow Fiend Killed Night 2 The dude IS a new player regardless of how long he has "been around". It's not how long you have been here, it's how many games you have under your belt. Also i do not see btdt's play as "an act". If you are going to assume this you must assume btdt has came into the game with "okay dudes i try to look as scummy as possible so people think i am too scummy to be scum" which is never ever a correct way to play as mafia. At least i fucking know if i was in scum QT with him i would tell him to cut that sort of crap instantly and play the game to best of his abilities. I genuinely just think the dude is horribly wrong in a lot of things and the way he has played screams me he doesn't have a team behind him. I don't know why you wanted to talk with me about Rels and when i did you left and never went back to even checking what i said. I have completely forgotten about FF even existing in the game. What do you have on him? | ||
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ruXxar
Norway5669 Posts
On June 28 2017 02:16 Fecalfeast wrote: Hm how do I omgus if I'm already votig palmar Quick! Unvote then unleash the rage. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25552 Posts
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
On June 28 2017 02:13 ruXxar wrote: 1) Engaging with people is what the game is all about. If you don't do it, we have a hard time discerning people's alignments. Which is exactly the reason why people want to lynch you. Not participating in the game makes it harder for town to win, not easier. 2) Meta read 3) You didn't really seem to run with it day when you said that darth foley was possible mafia. You didn't even expand on what you read that made you think that. Where is the follow up? Where is the reasoning? Where is the push? 4) If you cared about being right, then why didn't you push your scum read on DF?¨ Because I didn't really think he was super lock scum. It was weak at best. I don't think I even voted him did I? | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
On June 28 2017 02:22 raynpelikoneet wrote: Now this is factually false. 100% factually false. Nope it's not, it's true but as usual you are absolutely fucking terrible at knowing my meta. I don't think anyone on TL has as many delusions and bullshit about what my play is as you do. You're literally the worst on TL in knowing anything about me, because every game you say something that's wrong. | ||
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