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ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
June 23 2017 13:44 GMT
#5118
as for btdt, I think he's just not reading the game at all.

He's just looking at a score sheet without follwing the game.

I can't trust any of his reads or theories.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
June 23 2017 13:45 GMT
#5120
Skynx I want to say is town.

I felt his reaction was genuine when I pissed him off.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
June 23 2017 13:46 GMT
#5122
On June 23 2017 22:45 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2017 22:44 ruXxar wrote:
as for btdt, I think he's just not reading the game at all.

He's just looking at a score sheet without follwing the game.

I can't trust any of his reads or theories.

Is that coming from the guy who does the weird things that don't make sense all the time ever since D1 happened?

Yeah that's exactly the guy.


Sure, but this is beyond bad:

On June 22 2017 18:48 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2017 08:01 Half the Sky wrote:
Final Vote Count - Day 3


Grackaroni (9): ruXxar, Fecalfeast, Chezitwo, beentheredonethat, VayneAuthority, Tumblewood, sicklucker, Blazinghand, raynpelikoneet, disformation, Palmar, Eversince
sicklucker (3): disformation, Palmar, Grackaroni, Rels, Skynx, Chezitwo, Grackaroni
Palmar (2): disformation, Grackaroni, disformation, Fecalfeast
VayneAuthority (1): Grackaroni
disformation (0): disformation
Rels (0): sicklucker, raynpelikoneet, Skynx
Fecalfeast (0): Tumblewood
Skynx (0): Palmar, Skynx
raynpelikoneet (0): Rels
ruXxar (0): Blazinghand
beentheredonethat (0): disformation

Half the Sky is throwing Grackaroni out of her whiskey bar.


Observations:
1 Pretty much uncontested Grack wagon
2 Votes in hammer range on town: Tumblewood, sicklucker, Blazinghand
3 Irrelevant votes: raynpelikoneet, Palmar (starting with Rayn as hammer because Fecalfeast was originally part of the Grack wagon)
4 "Counter wagon" votes: Rels, Skynx, Chezitwo
5 Wasted votes: disformation, (Fecalfeast)

re: 1)

Having an uncontested wagon where no big discussion is revolving around pretty much means it's a town wagon. However, I think there was actually a lot of discussion in the past day, especially started by Rels. I am town reading Rels right now; he came out of the lurker shadows to actually talk. I also like his fighting with rayn and I'm super worried about rayn not being the town super hero that pushes people around. So Rels up, rayn down, although I gotta admit I haven't looked too deeply into the fight these two have.

My association between Skynx and Grack was obviously wrong. Nevertheless I find it super suspicious that Skynx chimed in, threw around some shade, later on pissed off, let the Grack lynch happen without really putting in work to push the sicklucker lynch. I am sure that there is scum on the Grack wagon and I am fairly certain that not all scummers are on that wagon; and Skynx' vote feels off. We have two mislynches as someone pointed out; so a vig shot (if available) gets more and more risky - but Skynx is a decent target. But I'm super super super afraid here.

Scum pool: Skynx, Eversince (voted super late each time)
Town should be: disformation (mehhhhhhhh, and only if he doesn't die this night lol, and town rage), Chezitwo (mainly based on D2), Rels (based on D3)
Meh: Palmar, Tumblewood, Blazinghand, ruxxar, Fecalfeast, VayneAuthority, sicklucker, rayn

I hope I didn't forget anyone.

re: 2)

These three players were basically the ones who sealed the Grack lynch: Tumblewood, sicklucker, Blazinghand. All of them will be moved to the scum pool for that:

Scum pool: Skynx, Eversince, Tumblewood, sicklucker, Blazinghand
Town should be: disformation, Chezitwo, Rels
Meh: Palmar, ruxxar, Fecalfeast, VayneAuthority, rayn

So without further ado, they come into the scum pool.

re: 3)

Same as 2), can just be scum chiming in.

Scum pool: Skynx, Eversince, Tumblewood, sicklucker, Blazinghand, Palmar, rayn
Town should be: disformation, Chezitwo, Rels
Meh: ruxxar, Fecalfeast, VayneAuthority

re: 4)

Rels pushing sicklucker matches what he did all D2. I don't think that this is scum pushing a second town wagon here. So if Rels would be scum, then sicklucker would most likely also be scum and we have a bus attempt to get town cred, which IMHO is a rather bad and useless bus because there's no way Rels gains towncred from this vote if sicklucker flips scum at any point. Skynx' vote on the other hand isn't as solid als Rels' vote. He not voting Grack (although he did say something about voting Grack, or am I wrong there?) is actually scum indicative here as he pretty much wasted his vote, putting it on unflipped instead of townflip. I'm certain Skynx is scum.

Chezitwo voting sicklucker - mehhhhhhhhhhhhh. Given how super eager he was to lynch Xata over Xata's cop claim, I don't know why he voted sicklucker here and kinda wasted his vote. I need to check the context of that vote as well as the reasoning. NAI imho but I'm not too sure. I don't have too many townreads so I'll keep him on the list "just cause" but I am indeed a bit paranoid.

re: 5) The only thing that comes to my mind is that disfo said early D3 that he'd end up voting Grackaroni anyways. Not sure what to make out of that but it striked me as weird.

"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
June 23 2017 14:02 GMT
#5130
On June 23 2017 22:55 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2017 22:46 ruXxar wrote:
On June 23 2017 22:45 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 23 2017 22:44 ruXxar wrote:
as for btdt, I think he's just not reading the game at all.

He's just looking at a score sheet without follwing the game.

I can't trust any of his reads or theories.

Is that coming from the guy who does the weird things that don't make sense all the time ever since D1 happened?

Yeah that's exactly the guy.


Sure, but this is beyond bad:

On June 22 2017 18:48 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 22 2017 08:01 Half the Sky wrote:
Final Vote Count - Day 3


Grackaroni (9): ruXxar, Fecalfeast, Chezitwo, beentheredonethat, VayneAuthority, Tumblewood, sicklucker, Blazinghand, raynpelikoneet, disformation, Palmar, Eversince
sicklucker (3): disformation, Palmar, Grackaroni, Rels, Skynx, Chezitwo, Grackaroni
Palmar (2): disformation, Grackaroni, disformation, Fecalfeast
VayneAuthority (1): Grackaroni
disformation (0): disformation
Rels (0): sicklucker, raynpelikoneet, Skynx
Fecalfeast (0): Tumblewood
Skynx (0): Palmar, Skynx
raynpelikoneet (0): Rels
ruXxar (0): Blazinghand
beentheredonethat (0): disformation

Half the Sky is throwing Grackaroni out of her whiskey bar.


Observations:
1 Pretty much uncontested Grack wagon
2 Votes in hammer range on town: Tumblewood, sicklucker, Blazinghand
3 Irrelevant votes: raynpelikoneet, Palmar (starting with Rayn as hammer because Fecalfeast was originally part of the Grack wagon)
4 "Counter wagon" votes: Rels, Skynx, Chezitwo
5 Wasted votes: disformation, (Fecalfeast)

re: 1)

Having an uncontested wagon where no big discussion is revolving around pretty much means it's a town wagon. However, I think there was actually a lot of discussion in the past day, especially started by Rels. I am town reading Rels right now; he came out of the lurker shadows to actually talk. I also like his fighting with rayn and I'm super worried about rayn not being the town super hero that pushes people around. So Rels up, rayn down, although I gotta admit I haven't looked too deeply into the fight these two have.

My association between Skynx and Grack was obviously wrong. Nevertheless I find it super suspicious that Skynx chimed in, threw around some shade, later on pissed off, let the Grack lynch happen without really putting in work to push the sicklucker lynch. I am sure that there is scum on the Grack wagon and I am fairly certain that not all scummers are on that wagon; and Skynx' vote feels off. We have two mislynches as someone pointed out; so a vig shot (if available) gets more and more risky - but Skynx is a decent target. But I'm super super super afraid here.

Scum pool: Skynx, Eversince (voted super late each time)
Town should be: disformation (mehhhhhhhh, and only if he doesn't die this night lol, and town rage), Chezitwo (mainly based on D2), Rels (based on D3)
Meh: Palmar, Tumblewood, Blazinghand, ruxxar, Fecalfeast, VayneAuthority, sicklucker, rayn

I hope I didn't forget anyone.

re: 2)

These three players were basically the ones who sealed the Grack lynch: Tumblewood, sicklucker, Blazinghand. All of them will be moved to the scum pool for that:

Scum pool: Skynx, Eversince, Tumblewood, sicklucker, Blazinghand
Town should be: disformation, Chezitwo, Rels
Meh: Palmar, ruxxar, Fecalfeast, VayneAuthority, rayn

So without further ado, they come into the scum pool.

re: 3)

Same as 2), can just be scum chiming in.

Scum pool: Skynx, Eversince, Tumblewood, sicklucker, Blazinghand, Palmar, rayn
Town should be: disformation, Chezitwo, Rels
Meh: ruxxar, Fecalfeast, VayneAuthority

re: 4)

Rels pushing sicklucker matches what he did all D2. I don't think that this is scum pushing a second town wagon here. So if Rels would be scum, then sicklucker would most likely also be scum and we have a bus attempt to get town cred, which IMHO is a rather bad and useless bus because there's no way Rels gains towncred from this vote if sicklucker flips scum at any point. Skynx' vote on the other hand isn't as solid als Rels' vote. He not voting Grack (although he did say something about voting Grack, or am I wrong there?) is actually scum indicative here as he pretty much wasted his vote, putting it on unflipped instead of townflip. I'm certain Skynx is scum.

Chezitwo voting sicklucker - mehhhhhhhhhhhhh. Given how super eager he was to lynch Xata over Xata's cop claim, I don't know why he voted sicklucker here and kinda wasted his vote. I need to check the context of that vote as well as the reasoning. NAI imho but I'm not too sure. I don't have too many townreads so I'll keep him on the list "just cause" but I am indeed a bit paranoid.

re: 5) The only thing that comes to my mind is that disfo said early D3 that he'd end up voting Grackaroni anyways. Not sure what to make out of that but it striked me as weird.


That's actually a decent piece of work which is flawed. And so we talked about it. There is that slight difference in "hey, that's false, let's discuss" and "this is a piece of shit"


Well it didn't seem like you would change your mind when three people told you that it was incorrect:

On June 22 2017 19:06 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2017 18:55 Blazinghand wrote:
I was the hammer. Rayn made in hammering Impoasbkle. Everything else is window dressing. TW and SL didn't hammer. I did. Get the facts straight


"votes in hammer range on town: Tumblewood, sicklucker, Blazinghand"
Tumblewood provided the hammer, sicklucker lifted it, you banged it on the table.

I think I have my facts straight here and you're trying to misrepresent my case. Why do you do this?


On June 22 2017 21:00 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2017 20:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 22 2017 19:06 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 22 2017 18:55 Blazinghand wrote:
I was the hammer. Rayn made in hammering Impoasbkle. Everything else is window dressing. TW and SL didn't hammer. I did. Get the facts straight


"votes in hammer range on town: Tumblewood, sicklucker, Blazinghand"
Tumblewood provided the hammer, sicklucker lifted it, you banged it on the table.

I think I have my facts straight here and you're trying to misrepresent my case. Why do you do this?

You don't have your facts straight.

Take my face and ram it onto how it is correctly as town!rayn would do it

and also call me bad as town!rayn would


On June 22 2017 23:18 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2017 23:15 ruXxar wrote:
On June 22 2017 23:09 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 22 2017 21:57 ruXxar wrote:
On June 22 2017 21:00 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 22 2017 20:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 22 2017 19:06 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 22 2017 18:55 Blazinghand wrote:
I was the hammer. Rayn made in hammering Impoasbkle. Everything else is window dressing. TW and SL didn't hammer. I did. Get the facts straight


"votes in hammer range on town: Tumblewood, sicklucker, Blazinghand"
Tumblewood provided the hammer, sicklucker lifted it, you banged it on the table.

I think I have my facts straight here and you're trying to misrepresent my case. Why do you do this?

You don't have your facts straight.

Take my face and ram it onto how it is correctly as town!rayn would do it

and also call me bad as town!rayn would


Rayn and BH are right. You are misrepresenting how the voting went down, and final vote count is absolutely not represenatitve of what the situation looked like.

Therefore your analysis is pretty much void.

The ones who put the deciding votes on a wagon are hammer votes. This is what I am analyzing. And I put all three of them into possible scum range. Do you disagree?


The hammer votes was BH and Rayn.

Anyone who was reading the thread at the time can confirm that.

Well then BH

Who's all defensive about himself voting Grack, like "I did it and I stand by having done so" and who's pointing to himself as being the hammer. Is that scum being aware of how bad he looks who's trying to bring up points before town can bring it up?

"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
June 23 2017 14:05 GMT
#5131
Missed this quote:

On June 22 2017 23:09 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2017 21:57 ruXxar wrote:
On June 22 2017 21:00 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 22 2017 20:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 22 2017 19:06 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 22 2017 18:55 Blazinghand wrote:
I was the hammer. Rayn made in hammering Impoasbkle. Everything else is window dressing. TW and SL didn't hammer. I did. Get the facts straight


"votes in hammer range on town: Tumblewood, sicklucker, Blazinghand"
Tumblewood provided the hammer, sicklucker lifted it, you banged it on the table.

I think I have my facts straight here and you're trying to misrepresent my case. Why do you do this?

You don't have your facts straight.

Take my face and ram it onto how it is correctly as town!rayn would do it

and also call me bad as town!rayn would


Rayn and BH are right. You are misrepresenting how the voting went down, and final vote count is absolutely not represenatitve of what the situation looked like.

Therefore your analysis is pretty much void.

The ones who put the deciding votes on a wagon are hammer votes. This is what I am analyzing. And I put all three of them into possible scum range. Do you disagree?

"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
June 23 2017 14:06 GMT
#5133
On June 23 2017 23:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2017 23:02 ruXxar wrote:
On June 23 2017 22:55 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 23 2017 22:46 ruXxar wrote:
On June 23 2017 22:45 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 23 2017 22:44 ruXxar wrote:
as for btdt, I think he's just not reading the game at all.

He's just looking at a score sheet without follwing the game.

I can't trust any of his reads or theories.

Is that coming from the guy who does the weird things that don't make sense all the time ever since D1 happened?

Yeah that's exactly the guy.


Sure, but this is beyond bad:

On June 22 2017 18:48 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 22 2017 08:01 Half the Sky wrote:
Final Vote Count - Day 3


Grackaroni (9): ruXxar, Fecalfeast, Chezitwo, beentheredonethat, VayneAuthority, Tumblewood, sicklucker, Blazinghand, raynpelikoneet, disformation, Palmar, Eversince
sicklucker (3): disformation, Palmar, Grackaroni, Rels, Skynx, Chezitwo, Grackaroni
Palmar (2): disformation, Grackaroni, disformation, Fecalfeast
VayneAuthority (1): Grackaroni
disformation (0): disformation
Rels (0): sicklucker, raynpelikoneet, Skynx
Fecalfeast (0): Tumblewood
Skynx (0): Palmar, Skynx
raynpelikoneet (0): Rels
ruXxar (0): Blazinghand
beentheredonethat (0): disformation

Half the Sky is throwing Grackaroni out of her whiskey bar.


Observations:
1 Pretty much uncontested Grack wagon
2 Votes in hammer range on town: Tumblewood, sicklucker, Blazinghand
3 Irrelevant votes: raynpelikoneet, Palmar (starting with Rayn as hammer because Fecalfeast was originally part of the Grack wagon)
4 "Counter wagon" votes: Rels, Skynx, Chezitwo
5 Wasted votes: disformation, (Fecalfeast)

re: 1)

Having an uncontested wagon where no big discussion is revolving around pretty much means it's a town wagon. However, I think there was actually a lot of discussion in the past day, especially started by Rels. I am town reading Rels right now; he came out of the lurker shadows to actually talk. I also like his fighting with rayn and I'm super worried about rayn not being the town super hero that pushes people around. So Rels up, rayn down, although I gotta admit I haven't looked too deeply into the fight these two have.

My association between Skynx and Grack was obviously wrong. Nevertheless I find it super suspicious that Skynx chimed in, threw around some shade, later on pissed off, let the Grack lynch happen without really putting in work to push the sicklucker lynch. I am sure that there is scum on the Grack wagon and I am fairly certain that not all scummers are on that wagon; and Skynx' vote feels off. We have two mislynches as someone pointed out; so a vig shot (if available) gets more and more risky - but Skynx is a decent target. But I'm super super super afraid here.

Scum pool: Skynx, Eversince (voted super late each time)
Town should be: disformation (mehhhhhhhh, and only if he doesn't die this night lol, and town rage), Chezitwo (mainly based on D2), Rels (based on D3)
Meh: Palmar, Tumblewood, Blazinghand, ruxxar, Fecalfeast, VayneAuthority, sicklucker, rayn

I hope I didn't forget anyone.

re: 2)

These three players were basically the ones who sealed the Grack lynch: Tumblewood, sicklucker, Blazinghand. All of them will be moved to the scum pool for that:

Scum pool: Skynx, Eversince, Tumblewood, sicklucker, Blazinghand
Town should be: disformation, Chezitwo, Rels
Meh: Palmar, ruxxar, Fecalfeast, VayneAuthority, rayn

So without further ado, they come into the scum pool.

re: 3)

Same as 2), can just be scum chiming in.

Scum pool: Skynx, Eversince, Tumblewood, sicklucker, Blazinghand, Palmar, rayn
Town should be: disformation, Chezitwo, Rels
Meh: ruxxar, Fecalfeast, VayneAuthority

re: 4)

Rels pushing sicklucker matches what he did all D2. I don't think that this is scum pushing a second town wagon here. So if Rels would be scum, then sicklucker would most likely also be scum and we have a bus attempt to get town cred, which IMHO is a rather bad and useless bus because there's no way Rels gains towncred from this vote if sicklucker flips scum at any point. Skynx' vote on the other hand isn't as solid als Rels' vote. He not voting Grack (although he did say something about voting Grack, or am I wrong there?) is actually scum indicative here as he pretty much wasted his vote, putting it on unflipped instead of townflip. I'm certain Skynx is scum.

Chezitwo voting sicklucker - mehhhhhhhhhhhhh. Given how super eager he was to lynch Xata over Xata's cop claim, I don't know why he voted sicklucker here and kinda wasted his vote. I need to check the context of that vote as well as the reasoning. NAI imho but I'm not too sure. I don't have too many townreads so I'll keep him on the list "just cause" but I am indeed a bit paranoid.

re: 5) The only thing that comes to my mind is that disfo said early D3 that he'd end up voting Grackaroni anyways. Not sure what to make out of that but it striked me as weird.


That's actually a decent piece of work which is flawed. And so we talked about it. There is that slight difference in "hey, that's false, let's discuss" and "this is a piece of shit"


Well it didn't seem like you would change your mind when three people told you that it was incorrect:

On June 22 2017 19:06 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 22 2017 18:55 Blazinghand wrote:
I was the hammer. Rayn made in hammering Impoasbkle. Everything else is window dressing. TW and SL didn't hammer. I did. Get the facts straight


"votes in hammer range on town: Tumblewood, sicklucker, Blazinghand"
Tumblewood provided the hammer, sicklucker lifted it, you banged it on the table.

I think I have my facts straight here and you're trying to misrepresent my case. Why do you do this?


On June 22 2017 21:00 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 22 2017 20:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 22 2017 19:06 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 22 2017 18:55 Blazinghand wrote:
I was the hammer. Rayn made in hammering Impoasbkle. Everything else is window dressing. TW and SL didn't hammer. I did. Get the facts straight


"votes in hammer range on town: Tumblewood, sicklucker, Blazinghand"
Tumblewood provided the hammer, sicklucker lifted it, you banged it on the table.

I think I have my facts straight here and you're trying to misrepresent my case. Why do you do this?

You don't have your facts straight.

Take my face and ram it onto how it is correctly as town!rayn would do it

and also call me bad as town!rayn would


On June 22 2017 23:18 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 22 2017 23:15 ruXxar wrote:
On June 22 2017 23:09 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 22 2017 21:57 ruXxar wrote:
On June 22 2017 21:00 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 22 2017 20:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 22 2017 19:06 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 22 2017 18:55 Blazinghand wrote:
I was the hammer. Rayn made in hammering Impoasbkle. Everything else is window dressing. TW and SL didn't hammer. I did. Get the facts straight


"votes in hammer range on town: Tumblewood, sicklucker, Blazinghand"
Tumblewood provided the hammer, sicklucker lifted it, you banged it on the table.

I think I have my facts straight here and you're trying to misrepresent my case. Why do you do this?

You don't have your facts straight.

Take my face and ram it onto how it is correctly as town!rayn would do it

and also call me bad as town!rayn would


Rayn and BH are right. You are misrepresenting how the voting went down, and final vote count is absolutely not represenatitve of what the situation looked like.

Therefore your analysis is pretty much void.

The ones who put the deciding votes on a wagon are hammer votes. This is what I am analyzing. And I put all three of them into possible scum range. Do you disagree?


The hammer votes was BH and Rayn.

Anyone who was reading the thread at the time can confirm that.

Well then BH

Who's all defensive about himself voting Grack, like "I did it and I stand by having done so" and who's pointing to himself as being the hammer. Is that scum being aware of how bad he looks who's trying to bring up points before town can bring it up?


Dude you really think that makes him mafia?
Because i think the opposite. He is pushing insane shit and basically begging to be lynched. Thats not how mafia plays. Idk if you have played with him before but thats always how btdt gets lynched.


I'm saying I can't trust any of his reads, not that he is mafia.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
June 23 2017 14:11 GMT
#5136
I mean when you are playing the game, you should be at least trying to skim the pages you missed.
Especially at EOD.

I mean, if he actually put as much effort into reading and understanding the game as he did with that theory post, then maybe we could get somewhere.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
June 23 2017 14:21 GMT
#5137
On June 23 2017 23:11 Chezitwo wrote:
Fail.

Post was supposed to say: then who is mafia and why? Unreasoned lists do not count as an answer.


I could lynch TW.
I could lynch Eversince.
I could lynch Palmar.

Disfo is ??
BTDT is ??

Maybe 1 mafia between Rels - Rayn (BH?), but all are active so most likely no lynch today.

Fefe, Chez, Va, Skynx town.

If you want more details you'll have to wait until later. Gotta finish my work.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
June 23 2017 14:26 GMT
#5140
On June 23 2017 23:24 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2017 23:21 ruXxar wrote:
On June 23 2017 23:11 Chezitwo wrote:
Fail.

Post was supposed to say: then who is mafia and why? Unreasoned lists do not count as an answer.


I could lynch TW.
I could lynch Eversince.
I could lynch Palmar.

Disfo is ??
BTDT is ??

Maybe 1 mafia between Rels - Rayn (BH?), but all are active so most likely no lynch today.

Fefe, Chez, Va, Skynx town.

If you want more details you'll have to wait until later. Gotta finish my work.

I don't understand how you do not trust my reads but pull Eversince and Palmar out of my scum list and are super happy to lynch them. And the double question marks on disfo - like WTF either you townread him by now due to sheer effort put into the game OR you scumread him for being still alive or whatever reasons you have

but there's no way you have a null on disfo. same on me - you say you don't trust my reads but you're not pushing me, nor are you townreading me.


You think you're the first person to think up this novel idea that they look scummy?
That they haven't looked scummy all game?

Come on, you are better than that.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
June 23 2017 14:30 GMT
#5142
That reminds me, I actually want to put rayn on my town pile for his genuine reaction to palmars bullshit read:

On June 16 2017 17:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 16:39 Palmar wrote:
I clicked darthfoley's filter. I don't like it much, and I would expect him to be a relatively easy townread if he was town. I think he is a good candidate for being mafia.

Wow Palmar.....
On June 16 2017 16:50 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 16:39 Palmar wrote:
I clicked darthfoley's filter. I don't like it much, and I would expect him to be a relatively easy townread if he was town. I think he is a good candidate for being mafia.
No way.

On June 16 2017 16:42 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 16:39 Palmar wrote:
I clicked darthfoley's filter. I don't like it much, and I would expect him to be a relatively easy townread if he was town. I think he is a good candidate for being mafia.

hahaha
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
June 23 2017 14:38 GMT
#5147
On June 23 2017 23:28 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2017 23:26 ruXxar wrote:
On June 23 2017 23:24 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 23 2017 23:21 ruXxar wrote:
On June 23 2017 23:11 Chezitwo wrote:
Fail.

Post was supposed to say: then who is mafia and why? Unreasoned lists do not count as an answer.


I could lynch TW.
I could lynch Eversince.
I could lynch Palmar.

Disfo is ??
BTDT is ??

Maybe 1 mafia between Rels - Rayn (BH?), but all are active so most likely no lynch today.

Fefe, Chez, Va, Skynx town.

If you want more details you'll have to wait until later. Gotta finish my work.

I don't understand how you do not trust my reads but pull Eversince and Palmar out of my scum list and are super happy to lynch them. And the double question marks on disfo - like WTF either you townread him by now due to sheer effort put into the game OR you scumread him for being still alive or whatever reasons you have

but there's no way you have a null on disfo. same on me - you say you don't trust my reads but you're not pushing me, nor are you townreading me.


You think you're the first person to think up this novel idea that they look scummy?
That they haven't looked scummy all game?

Come on, you are better than that.

I am fairly certain that I am the only one continuesly scumreading them since N2/D3. Might be my own perception but this is where thoughts began to form in my had.

Why do you have "??" on disfo and me?


I have a ?? on you because I can't make up my mind on if you are consistently trying to play dumb this game as mafia
or if you genuinely don't follow the game and actually believe what you're writing.

I have a ?? on disfo, since he's waffling like a hot potato.
I had him as strong town until day 3.

On day 3 he started acting real weird and trolling.
Either he's super bored town, just as I was or he's actually mafia trying to bamboozle everyone.

If I didn't have such strong town read on him from day 1 and 2, I would lump him into the scum pile.

It also goes against the analysis I made of Xata and Disformation being different alignment.
I was super convinced when I wrote it, but he's making me more and more unsure of that.
My faith in pure vote count analysis has turned out to be pretty lackluster thus fast.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
June 23 2017 14:46 GMT
#5151
On June 23 2017 23:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2017 23:30 ruXxar wrote:
That reminds me, I actually want to put rayn on my town pile for his genuine reaction to palmars bullshit read:

On June 16 2017 17:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 16 2017 16:39 Palmar wrote:
I clicked darthfoley's filter. I don't like it much, and I would expect him to be a relatively easy townread if he was town. I think he is a good candidate for being mafia.

Wow Palmar.....
On June 16 2017 16:50 ruXxar wrote:
On June 16 2017 16:39 Palmar wrote:
I clicked darthfoley's filter. I don't like it much, and I would expect him to be a relatively easy townread if he was town. I think he is a good candidate for being mafia.
No way.

On June 16 2017 16:42 Koshi wrote:
On June 16 2017 16:39 Palmar wrote:
I clicked darthfoley's filter. I don't like it much, and I would expect him to be a relatively easy townread if he was town. I think he is a good candidate for being mafia.

hahaha

Thats a terrible reason to townread me but tell me why i can be mafia in your opinion?

Or disformation?


Reasons why you can be mafia:

Bickering with rels nitpicking over wording of a text about eversince.
Ganging up on rels together with BH looked real suspicious.
Claiming SL was town and defending him during EOD made me think you three were possible scum team, since you all were deadset on lynching Rels.

After SL flipped, that theory pretty much fell through.

Also calling the two wagons town v town seemed like a TMI moment.



"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
June 23 2017 14:51 GMT
#5152
On June 23 2017 23:44 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2017 21:32 Chezitwo wrote:
On June 23 2017 21:16 beentheredonethat wrote:
at this point I think Eversince is basically confirmed scum by the way. She's not there, not modkilled, no contribution, nothing at all, and what a coincidence, all while nobody talks about her.

I realize people are after Palmar? Why?

oh and ##vote Skynx

Says ES is confirmed mafia.
Votes skynx.

this guy is scum bro..


Reasons?
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
June 23 2017 15:52 GMT
#5212
On June 24 2017 00:49 Rels wrote:
gotta say it is annoying to still be scumread when I'm actually playing my best since D3 started. Not very motivating


It's really hard to make up for a bad first impression.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
June 23 2017 15:54 GMT
#5215
On June 24 2017 00:45 disformation wrote:
so:
not going to lunch:
fefe
chezi
es
va
me

will try to look over btdt, skynx, rayn, rels filter once more. maybe ruxxar too.
might also just try to enjoy the weekend. xD


Why is fefe on that list?
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
June 23 2017 15:58 GMT
#5218
On June 24 2017 00:56 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2017 00:54 ruXxar wrote:
On June 24 2017 00:45 disformation wrote:
so:
not going to lunch:
fefe
chezi
es
va
me

will try to look over btdt, skynx, rayn, rels filter once more. maybe ruxxar too.
might also just try to enjoy the weekend. xD


Why is fefe on that list?

cause i think hes town as fuck


Naturally.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
June 23 2017 17:14 GMT
#5276
On June 24 2017 02:08 Chezitwo wrote:
If the game is simple then the mafia team is something like Xatalos, Tumblewood, BH, Skynx + 1 of Palmar/Rels/Rayn assuming a 5 man team.
If mafia is lurking in the "good actor" category (btdt, ruxxar, FF) or between the claims then it will get slightly more annoying.


You said something positive about me for once.
Thanks.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
June 23 2017 17:17 GMT
#5278
On June 24 2017 02:15 Chezitwo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2017 02:14 ruXxar wrote:
On June 24 2017 02:08 Chezitwo wrote:
If the game is simple then the mafia team is something like Xatalos, Tumblewood, BH, Skynx + 1 of Palmar/Rels/Rayn assuming a 5 man team.
If mafia is lurking in the "good actor" category (btdt, ruxxar, FF) or between the claims then it will get slightly more annoying.


You said something positive about me for once.
Thanks.

I think I already said earlier that I would be impressed if you are mafia.


I'll have to do with the one compliment then.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
June 23 2017 17:28 GMT
#5280
On June 24 2017 02:26 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2017 02:08 Chezitwo wrote:
If the game is simple then the mafia team is something like Xatalos, Tumblewood, BH, Skynx + 1 of Palmar/Rels/Rayn assuming a 5 man team.
If mafia is lurking in the "good actor" category (btdt, ruxxar, FF) or between the claims then it will get slightly more annoying.

yup. i agree.
@ruxxar: if you are scum you had a real good d2. trolling/baiting around on a dead day with a scum mate dead in the water takes a lot of effort.


I didn't have much to do on the weekend.
I have a pretty chill life outside work.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
June 23 2017 18:39 GMT
#5281
So...
What if TW flips town?
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
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