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disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 20 2017 13:11 GMT
#3408
btw koshi's defense of sl was that "sl cared too much" and that koshi didnt like hf pushing sl over unflipped association.
but by now we know that xata was indeed scum, which fits with hf's push.

and yes sl can be quite hard to read, but he can also quite easy to read, which he is def. not this game.
e.g. there were some qualifier games where it was really easy to see sl was town imo. dont get that vibe this game. there are also a few posts that give me a weird/bad vibe.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 20 2017 13:15 GMT
#3409
rip thread.
rels gtfoing just as i find someone to vote that is not him noted.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 20 2017 13:17 GMT
#3412
yes yes would say the same =D

well. if sl comes in thread and dumps town rainbows all over that is a fine outcome too.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 20 2017 13:31 GMT
#3414
On June 16 2017 04:29 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 04:27 sicklucker wrote:
Like i started the annul wagon which is obviosly the best wagon right now and will probably win. so lol @ people like skyx saying I did nothing

can you explain your annul scumread plx? prefered like I was a braindead 3 yr old

sl didnt answer.
also:
On June 16 2017 04:57 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 04:54 sicklucker wrote:
meh I dont think xatas filter is that bad. at least his ideas are unconventional to the thread which I kind of expect his town play

hm?
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 02:14 Xatalos wrote:
I can't be online much until EOD today.. I think I'll be online like 1-2 hours before the deadline and then just have to sleep. Anyways, here are my main reads so far (some people have posted nothing / barely anything so they've been basically ignored in my memory, who knows, would be dice rolling on them).

1) ruxxar: Has a decent amount of posts, but mostly they've been red flags or questionable at best. No spirit of scumhunting so far, just random comments with unbelievable reasoning (like "strong first post!" -> "I didn't like the content, it was just townily unpolished" - ask yourself, does this sound like an excuse thought after the fact of posting a random comment or a genuine thought process? how is it "strong" if it's townily bad?, very, very meh).

2) rayn: Can still easily be scum. He's a very sneaky scum, and I'm still quite confused by his Koshi commentary. Hope he'll explain that soon(TM).

3) annul: I'd have expected so much more after hearing about his reputation (although it seems to be years ago). There's just nothing to write home about in his filter. Nothing extremely scummy, but just no scumhunting, pushing the thread forward or anything. More like reluctant sideline commentary on some things he picked to comment about, things he could easily do as scum and should've done more than that as town.

4) Koshi: Not really sold on him being our best lynch. There was just nothing that I saw screamed "lynch now!", only slightly concerning points in a large amount of activity. TBH some of the discussions on Koshi have went over my head too as I've been reading the game very lacklusterly from my phone etc. In any case, when someone referenced the Koshi case to me earlier it didn't really cause me to want to vote for him.

4) FF: I'd say town. I just had a pleasant feeling reading his posts since the start, felt like he posted what he actually wanted to say and it made sense.

5) HF: Probably town too. Even if he exaggerates a bit in his cases, he's pushing the game forward and doing stuff all the time. Apparently it's also been his intention to generate discussion with stronger than usual pushes. Just feels more like a town game plan to hyper push and focus the attention on himself and his surroundings. As scum there would be easier targets for that than Koshi or rayn or Vivax etc. too, if the intention was to get people mislynched.

6) Vivax: I think what I liked about him earlier was his meta read on me. It felt honest rather than trying to just curry my favor or alternatively spread suspicion on me. Well, I may be biased Vivax, my main problem with you when I read you sometime today was this post:

On June 15 2017 06:26 Vivax wrote:
On June 15 2017 06:24 Holyflare wrote:
Dunno why everyone hates ever, she's right that it's fucking awful koshi town reads me for a shit fight that in his opinion doesn't make sense. That's my scum meta 101.


Yeah why would you hate someone who parrots your misreps of rayn like gospel?


...because, even if you called him out on misrepresenting things, that's one of the more blatant misrepresentations in the game in itself. Ever did not in fact ever "parrot" HF. He just referenced the case on rayn when asked, even though he clearly said he disagreed with it. That's far from parroting, it's the opposite.

That's still bothering me. Not sure if it means scum or town Vivax yet though, I think it's not possible to come from either.

7) Eversince: unrelated to that, he is somewhat lackluster. Not fair to say he's "parroting" or "not having original thoughts" though. Clearly that's false. There are original thoughts in his filter, there's just so little of any content there. Conclusion: ???

Rest: no strong opinions one way or another. This might change if I had time to read their filters, but now I'll have to go for some time.

So yeah, ruxxar/annul seem like our best bets today overall.

this is fairly blendy imo?

dunno why ppl are hating on my filter.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 20 2017 13:32 GMT
#3419
On June 20 2017 22:30 beentheredonethat wrote:
completely different question

why exactly are we not lynching Palmar?

because we can only lynch one person at a time and there are like ~7-8 scummy/inactive persons in the game
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 20 2017 13:37 GMT
#3421
ah right. i always forget he has like 0 time on the we.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 20 2017 13:38 GMT
#3422
tbh.
my gut likes palmar/sl/skynx +1 more on annul
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 20 2017 13:46 GMT
#3427
summoning successful.
noted.

=D
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 20 2017 13:50 GMT
#3430
On June 20 2017 22:48 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2017 22:38 disformation wrote:
tbh.
my gut likes palmar/sl/skynx +1 more on annul


What happened to grack? Is he town now?

+1 more on annul?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 20 2017 13:53 GMT
#3436
On June 20 2017 22:51 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2017 22:50 disformation wrote:
On June 20 2017 22:48 ruXxar wrote:
On June 20 2017 22:38 disformation wrote:
tbh.
my gut likes palmar/sl/skynx +1 more on annul


What happened to grack? Is he town now?

+1 more on annul?


You sure went from confident in grack/rels to +1 on annul.

yes. my reads change as i go back to review the contents of the game and interact with other players.
shocking i know.
yes i am way less confident in rels being scum.
might be grack might be es.
think lynching grack first is fine.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 20 2017 13:57 GMT
#3442
On June 20 2017 22:54 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2017 22:53 disformation wrote:
On June 20 2017 22:51 ruXxar wrote:
On June 20 2017 22:50 disformation wrote:
On June 20 2017 22:48 ruXxar wrote:
On June 20 2017 22:38 disformation wrote:
tbh.
my gut likes palmar/sl/skynx +1 more on annul


What happened to grack? Is he town now?

+1 more on annul?


You sure went from confident in grack/rels to +1 on annul.

yes. my reads change as i go back to review the contents of the game and interact with other players.
shocking i know.
yes i am way less confident in rels being scum.
might be grack might be es.
think lynching grack first is fine.


You think there was only 2 mafia on the annul vote?

mh. dunno. possible that a lot of scum were afk.
sl, xata himself + 1 of grack/es makes 3.
with the decent amount of afk/off wagon not impossible.

we will see i guess.
also would be bad to just ignore anyone not on annul.
i also really really dont want to have another afk day with everyone just on grack. so i am looking at other ppl.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 20 2017 14:03 GMT
#3455
if i remember correctly btdt claimed cop with a fake red check on someone in a recent nsm.
btdt was vt, his redcheck too.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 20 2017 14:04 GMT
#3457
On June 20 2017 22:58 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2017 22:57 disformation wrote:
On June 20 2017 22:54 ruXxar wrote:
On June 20 2017 22:53 disformation wrote:
On June 20 2017 22:51 ruXxar wrote:
On June 20 2017 22:50 disformation wrote:
On June 20 2017 22:48 ruXxar wrote:
On June 20 2017 22:38 disformation wrote:
tbh.
my gut likes palmar/sl/skynx +1 more on annul


What happened to grack? Is he town now?

+1 more on annul?


You sure went from confident in grack/rels to +1 on annul.

yes. my reads change as i go back to review the contents of the game and interact with other players.
shocking i know.
yes i am way less confident in rels being scum.
might be grack might be es.
think lynching grack first is fine.


You think there was only 2 mafia on the annul vote?

mh. dunno. possible that a lot of scum were afk.
sl, xata himself + 1 of grack/es makes 3.
with the decent amount of afk/off wagon not impossible.

we will see i guess.
also would be bad to just ignore anyone not on annul.
i also really really dont want to have another afk day with everyone just on grack. so i am looking at other ppl.


I can understand the afk point, carry on then.
I just feel like you're waffling all over the place right now, and it's not giving me good vibes.

no town disfo without a good waffle or two.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 20 2017 14:06 GMT
#3460
nah grack is a good lynch, but i dont want to sit on my hands all day and wait on whether he shows up and posts something good or not.
there are more than one scummer left after all.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 20 2017 14:08 GMT
#3462
On June 20 2017 23:06 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2017 23:03 disformation wrote:
if i remember correctly btdt claimed cop with a fake red check on someone in a recent nsm.
btdt was vt, his redcheck too.

can we not bring that up please

I regret this a lot

well ppl were asking you if are capable of doing crazy stuff as town.^^
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 20 2017 14:13 GMT
#3467
On June 20 2017 23:10 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2017 23:06 disformation wrote:
nah grack is a good lynch, but i dont want to sit on my hands all day and wait on whether he shows up and posts something good or not.
there are more than one scummer left after all.


What made you change your mind about rels? Why is he now town?

because i have a better feeling after inaction with him for a bit the last few pages.
might be because i had a bad feeling interacting with btdt earlier.
but it is good enough for me for today.

instead of mindlessly jumping on grack to strengthen his position it looks like rels is actually trying to figure shit out.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 20 2017 14:17 GMT
#3468
hmm... does this game have any cases at all atm?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 20 2017 14:27 GMT
#3469
well. btdt has a case on me.
aight. i will write up some proper stuff when i get home.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 20 2017 14:45 GMT
#3472
yeah i think i'll make a decent case on sl later.
basically:
creates the annul wagon via "read his filter didnt like it"
pushes really hard (uncharacteristic for sl)
has a false/bad xata town lean/read
says xata might be town after all after flip

aaaand:
On June 16 2017 07:54 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 07:51 Holyflare wrote:
On June 16 2017 07:49 sicklucker wrote:
On June 16 2017 07:47 Holyflare wrote:
On June 16 2017 07:45 Eversince wrote:
This is going to make me look like garbage.

I haven't read anything since pg 35ish. Give me the the rough of what's happen between now and then for Xata, Annul, and SL.

I don't have time to fact check so my vote is entirely blind at this point.


sl came to the thread and town read xatalos because xatalos has different reads to most of the game (when in fact xatalos' reads are blending with the rest of the game

sl says i'm mafia for calling all the town leaders mafia and it's my mafia meta when 100% of other games he states my mafia meta is to push lurkers

sl is trying to force the wagon onto someone who is blatantly self-preserving and revealing his plan for all to see, who stubbornly refuses to change his reads despite everyone yelling at him mafia

sl is mafia


I said that because xata had a mafia read on ryan and everyone else town read him. get over it you lost save your buddy


xata doesn't have a mafia read on rayn, he said he can still be scum but doesn't actually say he scum reads him at all


just remember this later ^
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 20 2017 14:53 GMT
#3474
well the grack case is kinda:
underwhelming as fuck
hammered annul
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