EPT[N] TL Mafia LXXV - Page 245
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Fecalfeast
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Chezitwo
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Blazinghand
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On June 23 2017 08:13 ruXxar wrote: Can parity cop choose himself as a target? Depends on the game, but it's actually better to just pick targets from among the town. after all, you can eventually build a chain like this: N1: Adam, result nothing N2: Adam and Bob have the SAME alignment N3: Bob and Charlie have DIFFERENT alignment N4: Charlie and Dave have SAME alignment then, during N4, Adam dies and flips town. this tells you that Bob is GREEN and Charlie and Dave are RED it's very common for a pcop check person to get shot or lynched at some point, or for someone to be obvscum or town int eh chain | ||
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Fecalfeast
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ruXxar
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On June 23 2017 08:15 Blazinghand wrote: Depends on the game, but it's actually better to just pick targets from among the town. after all, you can eventually build a chain like this: N1: Adam, result nothing N2: Adam and Bob have the SAME alignment N3: Bob and Charlie have DIFFERENT alignment N4: Charlie and Dave have SAME alignment then, during N4, Adam dies and flips town. this tells you that Bob is GREEN and Charlie and Dave are RED it's very common for a pcop check person to get shot or lynched at some point, or for someone to be obvscum or town int eh chain Thanks again  | ||
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ruXxar
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On June 23 2017 08:18 Fecalfeast wrote: Tw es ruxx bh Imo I say we vote you and chez. | ||
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Chezitwo
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That would be quite stupid but when has that ever stopped you, right? | ||
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Blazinghand
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I don't know about you folks but I pretty much immediately ignored this. I assumed it was a troll or a joke, not a serious claim in any way. In fact, he doesn't claim they're both the same alignment, he claims they're both Red checks. Now imagine FeFe and Chez are townies. If FeFe and Chez are both Green, and Mafia sees SL, who to them is just some townie, claim he has redchecks on them, why would they shoot him? Who cares, he's some weirdo doing weird things. BUT THATS NOT WHAT HAPPENEd MAFIA SHOT HIM. Which means, when they saw SL say "i have redchecks on FeFe and Chez" they probably started freaking out because fefe and chez are actually mafia. Their Rb, Xat, is dead; so they can't just wait one more day for town to maybe lynch SL, cause then SL will die and leave us THREE checks (remember, they think he's a cop at this point). So they HAVE to shoot him right away even though he's like the top lynch target. Mafia has no reason to rolecheck SL, he was considered suspicious and likely to get lynched. But, if FeFe and Chez ARE IN FACT MAFIA, then Mafia had a REALLY good reason to pay attention to this off-handed statement and freak out and shoot SL! I think that SL crumbed so we'd know he got "same" on FeFe and Chez. But I ALSO think that the way he was shot could only really happen if FeFe and Chez are Mafia and Mafia freaked the fuck out this makes as much or more sense than the rolecop theory now one of FeFe or Chez could still be town here, as an un-self-aware miller; and mafia think "ok, chez/fefe is one of us, but fefe/chez is a miller" and this still confirms, in their minds, that SL is a REGULAR COP with two red checks they couldn't afford to let him live. | ||
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Fecalfeast
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##vote ruxxar How about that? | ||
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disformation
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the night actions kinda tell me scum has a vet and/or someone with loads of experience. would expect team afk and or team troll to go for more wifomy kind of stuff | ||
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Chezitwo
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Fecalfeast
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We already had a miller flip as well | ||
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Blazinghand
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We now know the wagon yesterday, Grack vs SL, was BETWEEN TWO TOWNIES. Now, at the time of the lynch, Mafia hadn't yet seen SL's claim. So they didn't know he was the cop. But Mafia actually has no reason to push Grack over SL, right? In fact, the "Grack voters/hammerers are scum protecting" theory is just bunk! I think we gotta take down FeFe or Chez here, I think it's super likely one or both is Mafia, and Mafia took SL's claim at face value; we know now it's a "same aligns" and at the time that we read it we dismissed it as trolling, but THEY looked at that and felt FEAR. Oh man, this also averted an SL mislynch because they HAD to shoot him right away this is actually great | ||
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disformation
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i am pretty sure sl said red check cause he thinks marv replsced out cause scum. fefe and chez are the two most town persons in the game. why woulf chez spend all that effort convincing me sl is scum if hes gonna shoot sl anyway? | ||
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Chezitwo
United States553 Posts
On June 23 2017 08:20 Blazinghand wrote: OK SO THEORY. AS we know, SickLucker crumbed his N1 and N2 checks here, which was SAME on FEFE and Chezitwo. However, pay attention to how he wrote it: I don't know about you folks but I pretty much immediately ignored this. I assumed it was a troll or a joke, not a serious claim in any way. In fact, he doesn't claim they're both the same alignment, he claims they're both Red checks. Now imagine FeFe and Chez are townies. If FeFe and Chez are both Green, and Mafia sees SL, who to them is just some townie, claim he has redchecks on them, why would they shoot him? Who cares, he's some weirdo doing weird things. BUT THATS NOT WHAT HAPPENEd MAFIA SHOT HIM. Which means, when they saw SL say "i have redchecks on FeFe and Chez" they probably started freaking out because fefe and chez are actually mafia. Their Rb, Xat, is dead; so they can't just wait one more day for town to maybe lynch SL, cause then SL will die and leave us THREE checks (remember, they think he's a cop at this point). So they HAVE to shoot him right away even though he's like the top lynch target. Mafia has no reason to rolecheck SL, he was considered suspicious and likely to get lynched. But, if FeFe and Chez ARE IN FACT MAFIA, then Mafia had a REALLY good reason to pay attention to this off-handed statement and freak out and shoot SL! I think that SL crumbed so we'd know he got "same" on FeFe and Chez. But I ALSO think that the way he was shot could only really happen if FeFe and Chez are Mafia and Mafia freaked the fuck out this makes as much or more sense than the rolecop theory now one of FeFe or Chez could still be town here, as an un-self-aware miller; and mafia think "ok, chez/fefe is one of us, but fefe/chez is a miller" and this still confirms, in their minds, that SL is a REGULAR COP with two red checks they couldn't afford to let him live. Not only is this just factually wrong and mafia probably wouldn't be stupid enough to think that SL wouldn't claim with 2 redckecks it is also definitely NOT more likely than the rolecop theory. | ||
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Blazinghand
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On June 23 2017 08:22 Fecalfeast wrote: Or, bh, we can assume mafia knows the setup and takes that as a claim but hey yeah let's lynch into the two people likely to be town. We already had a miller flip as well why would "I have red checks on these guys" be anything but a cop claim, if as mafia, you see that the RED CHECKS ARE ON TWO OF YOUR RED GUYS man why am I even arguing with you, you're mafia! | ||
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Chezitwo
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Fecalfeast
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disformation
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lemme get back to that tomorrow | ||
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Blazinghand
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On June 23 2017 08:23 Chezitwo wrote: Not only is this just factually wrong and mafia probably wouldn't be stupid enough to think that SL wouldn't claim with 2 redckecks it is also definitely NOT more likely than the rolecop theory. hmm, do you really think so though, like remembe,r this means MAfia rolecopped SL during N1 or N2. And then, during Day 3, when it was a faceoff between SL, the guy they "know" is Parity cop, and Grack, the guy they think is just some guy, why does the Grack wagon get so much more support than the SL wagon? there were like TWO dudes on SL at the end, but at some point it was very close. I feel mafia would have pushed to get SL lynched right away. on top of that, this innocuous "I have two redchecks" troll remark seems normal to town but to mafia has to be a HUGE red flag when those two redchecks are on two mafia right (remember, mafia didn't know he was parity cop, thought he was regular cop, in this hypothetical) | ||
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