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sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
June 22 2017 00:49 GMT
#4521
I agree with the logic that the flip makes annul more likely to be mafia. maybe he is I dont think hes a better lynch then you tho
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 22 2017 00:50 GMT
#4522
On June 22 2017 09:48 sicklucker wrote:
but why was grack town over two players who are like trying. and have good original ideas. have dumbtells , huge filters , and are overall just more town then grack was

'cause I'm not playing the game mechanically like you and ruxxar, listing a people that voted for a counter wagon and lytnching them by activity. Saying you and ruxxar have been townie is laughable.
If you're asking specifically about why I thought Grack was town, it's in my filter.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
June 22 2017 00:50 GMT
#4523
also the fact theres less mafia on annul then we thought probably means the afk/replacements had mafia in them. (cough marv cough)

Like marvs slot should have been policy lynched already but even without that he looks mafia
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 22 2017 00:51 GMT
#4524
the fact that you can't comprehend how could people scumread you and ruxxar over Grack is bad for you. YOU RE the king of making tinfoil reads, seeing past the BS. You're not this game. You're playing the easy way.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 22 2017 00:52 GMT
#4525
On June 22 2017 09:50 sicklucker wrote:
also the fact theres less mafia on annul then we thought probably means the afk/replacements had mafia in them. (cough marv cough)

Like marvs slot should have been policy lynched already but even without that he looks mafia

Why does Chezitwo look mafia ?
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
June 22 2017 00:53 GMT
#4526
On June 22 2017 09:46 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2017 09:45 sicklucker wrote:
On June 22 2017 09:45 Rels wrote:
On June 22 2017 09:43 sicklucker wrote:
He was near the start and hes agreeing with me.

Look from his perspective he knows hes town. now he knows gracks town. He kind of thought I was town.

Xata was the mafia roleblocker so mafia should not be letting him die for free.

So someone on that wagon has to be mafia...

At least he came to this conlusion. You didnt. You didnt even want to lynch grack who looked the worst of everyone on the annul wagon. Because your mafia and you didnt want to be next




How does that make sense when Im TRYING TO LYNCH someone on annuls wagon ?


ya me. but no one else on it. And from my perspective I know im town so your just trying to lynch the town of the group

you and ruxxar. There were Xata on that wagon. So I'm pushing a world where there are 3 scums on annul. That's not good enough for you ?



I said multiple times that I'm 100% convinced that there is more than just xatalos mafia on annul train.
I can't even believe in a world where xata was the only mafia.

We know that grack is town.

I say we should still lynch people from annul vote.

So who does that leave from my point of view:

annul (7): sicklucker, ruXxar, Fecalfeast, Xatalos, Rels, Grackaroni, Eversince

So we all agree that there is more mafia here, and we all think we are town.

There's two people here who are avoiding suspicion.
Fefe and eversince.

I think we should look into those two.

VA mentioned something about FeFe being super suspicious voting wise:

On June 19 2017 08:10 VayneAuthority wrote:
tier 1 bad day 1 voting

fecalfeast

tier 2

rels, grackaroni

tier 3

eversince, vivax (?) his voting is odd but not necessarily scummy

there has to be 2 mafia in fecal/rels/grack/eversince at the least.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 22 2017 00:54 GMT
#4527
Why the fact that FF avoid suspicion while SL is getting pushed mean that FF is more likjely scum than SL ? Or is that not what you're saying ?
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
June 22 2017 00:55 GMT
#4528
On June 22 2017 09:51 Rels wrote:
the fact that you can't comprehend how could people scumread you and ruxxar over Grack is bad for you. YOU RE the king of making tinfoil reads, seeing past the BS. You're not this game. You're playing the easy way.


I could totally see why people could scum read me this game. just not townread grack -_-
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 22 2017 00:56 GMT
#4529
like, all of this shit SL keep spouting don't make sense. The things he's saying don't make sense with the view of the game he's pretending to have.
Let's not even talk about the fact that he still is not becoming town god.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
June 22 2017 00:57 GMT
#4530
ff im just reading town and voted annul much earlier so is less suspicious for that in my book. on the other hand eversince was the hammer and is probably the grack replacement..
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 22 2017 00:58 GMT
#4531
On June 22 2017 09:57 sicklucker wrote:
ff im just reading town and voted annul much earlier so is less suspicious for that in my book. on the other hand eversince was the hammer and is probably the grack replacement..

what about the fact that she just made a HUGE case on Grack for no reason ?
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
June 22 2017 00:58 GMT
#4532
On June 22 2017 09:54 Rels wrote:
Why the fact that FF avoid suspicion while SL is getting pushed mean that FF is more likjely scum than SL ? Or is that not what you're saying ?


Not saying it's more likely.

Just saying that we need to consider ALL the options.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 22 2017 00:59 GMT
#4533
On June 22 2017 09:49 sicklucker wrote:
I agree with the logic that the flip makes annul more likely to be mafia. maybe he is I dont think hes a better lynch then you tho

You still have to explain this though. WHY is ruxxar not super scum in your book ? Why did he do this game to get that townread ? Other than agree with a logic you also had ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 22 2017 01:00 GMT
#4534
On June 22 2017 09:58 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2017 09:54 Rels wrote:
Why the fact that FF avoid suspicion while SL is getting pushed mean that FF is more likjely scum than SL ? Or is that not what you're saying ?


Not saying it's more likely.

Just saying that we need to consider ALL the options.

k. Go on then.
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
June 22 2017 01:02 GMT
#4535
What I don't like about eversince is her voting.

Her vote has basically been useless all game.

She came in after the outcome was already decided and put her vote. Then later after the vote explained why she placed her vote there.

That's not how it should work. First you explain your scum read. Then you vote.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
June 22 2017 01:04 GMT
#4536
On June 22 2017 09:58 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2017 09:57 sicklucker wrote:
ff im just reading town and voted annul much earlier so is less suspicious for that in my book. on the other hand eversince was the hammer and is probably the grack replacement..

what about the fact that she just made a HUGE case on Grack for no reason ?


You know this is exactly what mafia does?

Goes throw filter and tries to make a huge case of quotes?
At least that is exactly how i play as mafia.

Typical sign of mafia are huge artifical posts case posts from filters. Very little small talk and convos.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 22 2017 01:07 GMT
#4537
On June 22 2017 10:04 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2017 09:58 Rels wrote:
On June 22 2017 09:57 sicklucker wrote:
ff im just reading town and voted annul much earlier so is less suspicious for that in my book. on the other hand eversince was the hammer and is probably the grack replacement..

what about the fact that she just made a HUGE case on Grack for no reason ?


You know this is exactly what mafia does?

Goes throw filter and tries to make a huge case of quotes?
At least that is exactly how i play as mafia.

Typical sign of mafia are huge artifical posts case posts from filters. Very little small talk and convos.

True. But typical sign of mafia is also not doing anything if they don't need to. ES didn't have to make those two cases.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
June 22 2017 01:08 GMT
#4538
The annul wagon annul (7): sicklucker, ruXxar, Fecalfeast, Xatalos, Rels, Grackaroni, Eversince

We've only flipped Xat (scum) and Grack (town). The annul wagon was only 1 vote ahead of the Xat wagon on D1. There's no reason there could be exactly 1 more scum on the Annul wagon and everyone else is town on the wagon, and the other scum are people on the Xat wagon or off-wagon entirely. I think we should avoide getting TOO invested into this idea that like, all the scum were on annul. this will lead us astray. I think there is still at least one more though given how close it was, and we KNOW the wagons on D1 were scum vs town
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 22 2017 01:09 GMT
#4539
On June 22 2017 09:49 Rels wrote:
so let's recap. In SL words, Grack's flip means all the people in annul's wagon got statiscally more scum.

ruxxar was on annul. He pushed Grack today, who was on annul's wagon, and is scumreading at least me who was also in the wagon. Maybe others too.

Rels was on annul. He pushed SL today, who was on annul's wagon, and is scumreading ruxxar who was also in the wagon.

BUT Rels is 90% scum and ruxxar is 100% town.

this is beautiful. Can't wait to reread it again tomorrow.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
June 22 2017 01:10 GMT
#4540
I mean if you assume that there are X scum on Annul's wagon no matter what, and someone on the wagon flips town, then yeah, the odds of anyone one remaining person being scum goes up. though perhaps one ought to re-evaluate the expected number of scum on the wagon as well
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
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