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On June 20 2017 23:03 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2017 22:59 Rels wrote:ruxxar what are you trying to accomplish there ? I don't understand how that would make you solve the game. On June 20 2017 22:51 ruXxar wrote:On June 20 2017 22:50 disformation wrote:On June 20 2017 22:48 ruXxar wrote:On June 20 2017 22:38 disformation wrote:
tbh.
my gut likes palmar/sl/skynx +1 more on annul What happened to grack? Is he town now? +1 more on annul? You sure went from confident in grack/rels to +1 on annul. Are you trying to scumread disfo ? Or are you trying to see his thought process ? If it's the latter, why are you asking when it's quite clear from the last few pages ? On June 20 2017 22:54 ruXxar wrote:On June 20 2017 22:53 disformation wrote:On June 20 2017 22:51 ruXxar wrote:On June 20 2017 22:50 disformation wrote:On June 20 2017 22:48 ruXxar wrote:On June 20 2017 22:38 disformation wrote:
tbh.
my gut likes palmar/sl/skynx +1 more on annul What happened to grack? Is he town now? +1 more on annul? You sure went from confident in grack/rels to +1 on annul. yes. my reads change as i go back to review the contents of the game and interact with other players. shocking i know. yes i am way less confident in rels being scum. might be grack might be es. think lynching grack first is fine. You think there was only 2 mafia on the annul vote? You think it's obvious than 3+ scum were on the 7 people annul wagon ? When it's terrifying to take stances like that as scum ? Not taking anything else into account, maybe there are 3 or 4 scums in the 7 people coutner wagon to a scum. But it's not likely. Scum will usually spread their votes, and it's fucking scary to vote on something you KNOW is wrong and is gonna be revealed, since it's the D1 vote. So I don't understand how you can have the mindset than it's super likely than 3 or 4 scums were on annul. I'm saying that suddenly he's not so certain that grack is a good lynch.
have you read my case on disfo
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On June 20 2017 23:06 beentheredonethat wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2017 23:03 disformation wrote:
if i remember correctly btdt claimed cop with a fake red check on someone in a recent nsm.
btdt was vt, his redcheck too. can we not bring that up please I regret this a lot
well ppl were asking you if are capable of doing crazy stuff as town.^^
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ok. so I'll have one round of cs:go right now and then I'm off to dancing (yes I do dance) so I dunno exactly when I'll be online again.
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On June 20 2017 23:01 beentheredonethat wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2017 23:00 beentheredonethat wrote:On June 16 2017 00:40 Palmar wrote:
So I clicked two more filters.
beentheredonethat is strange. There's some weird stuff in his filter like gettin into an argument if he's carefree. But there's also some townie sounding, albeit not very useful stuff. He goes in the "could be either category"
AMG hasn't posted at all, lucky me that was an easy filter to read.
I still think voting sicklucker is a good idea and I'm gonna park my vote there. Btdt should probably sheep me as he thinks sicklucker's contributions are atrocious. Hey, Palmar, we have a sicklucker train going. You care? On June 16 2017 16:39 Palmar wrote:
I clicked darthfoley's filter. I don't like it much, and I would expect him to be a relatively easy townread if he was town. I think he is a good candidate for being mafia. Hey, Palmar, this guy flipped town. On June 20 2017 06:43 Palmar wrote:
Rels is evil!
I have no idea, I haven't read much lately.
I saw darthfoley thinks btdt is mafia, that is an interesting development as I've previously mentioned suspecting both of them. I also should catch up on what sicklucker is doing.
Chezitwo is probably mafia because marv not playing is like 99% because he rolled mafia. Sucks, but replacements are always more likely to be mafia, and in this case it's especially prevalent. On June 16 2017 00:41 Palmar wrote:
Btw, if we're killing inactive/modkill-territory people, we kill AMG, not marv. Hey, Palmar, lynch into the AMG slot instead of the slot where you're suspecting scum!marv? Ok the first two things are basically me bitching but the last one is valid and scummy
I actually think the first things are better, especially being wrong (mildly... I never voted him) on darthfoley.
The last part is completely irrelevant. I posted the first post on day 1 for very good reasons (marv is both a great player and a good friend of mine, so keeping him alive would always be optimal). However when it's clear marv isn't playing and is replaced by a smurf, I no longer have any personal attachments to the slot (ie, I really want to play with marv).
So cold calculation leads me to believe it is not unlikely, based on something completely out of his control, that Chezitwo is mafia. However, as I already said, I do not really want to lynch him for that without suspecting him specifically (and not the slot), because it's an asshole thing to do.
I didn't even know we had a train on sicklucker. Is there an actual case I can read somewhere?
I read a few more posts of skynx, I think I'll be unvoting him, he has a few decent posts.
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On June 20 2017 23:06 disformation wrote:
nah grack is a good lynch, but i dont want to sit on my hands all day and wait on whether he shows up and posts something good or not.
there are more than one scummer left after all.
What made you change your mind about rels? Why is he now town?
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Can someone also link to a case on Grack?
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On June 20 2017 23:10 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2017 23:06 disformation wrote:
nah grack is a good lynch, but i dont want to sit on my hands all day and wait on whether he shows up and posts something good or not.
there are more than one scummer left after all. What made you change your mind about rels? Why is he now town?
because i have a better feeling after inaction with him for a bit the last few pages.
might be because i had a bad feeling interacting with btdt earlier.
but it is good enough for me for today.
instead of mindlessly jumping on grack to strengthen his position it looks like rels is actually trying to figure shit out.
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hmm... does this game have any cases at all atm?
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well. btdt has a case on me.
aight. i will write up some proper stuff when i get home.
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On June 20 2017 22:44 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2017 22:41 Chezitwo wrote:On June 20 2017 22:40 Rels wrote:
@BTDT we're not lynching Palmar 'cause he did nothing scummy and some other people did.
Filter length is something to consider but is not an absolute measure. Yeah, basically this. But we should not allow Palmar to keep this up either regardless of his alignment. Surely the stern facial expression will make me snap out of it.
Apparently it did :D
On June 20 2017 22:46 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2017 07:40 Chezitwo wrote:On June 20 2017 06:43 Palmar wrote:
Rels is evil!
I have no idea, I haven't read much lately.
I saw darthfoley thinks btdt is mafia, that is an interesting development as I've previously mentioned suspecting both of them. I also should catch up on what sicklucker is doing.
Chezitwo is probably mafia because marv not playing is like 99% because he rolled mafia. Sucks, but replacements are always more likely to be mafia, and in this case it's especially prevalent. So, are you claiming it is normal for marv to completely vanish from TL due to rolling mafia? Because if you are not you don't have a leg to stand on. Yes, that is exactly what I am claiming.
How am I supposed to believe that a guy like this:
On June 16 2017 07:40 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2017 07:37 Koshi wrote:On June 16 2017 07:36 Fecalfeast wrote:
Shenannie onto marv?
😇I'm only half joking nha. 0 posts is not his mafia style. He has some dignity and respect for the game. He had, tbh. He's the guy who just quit a game because he rolled mafia, as much as I like him (I love the guy, he's by far guy I've interacted most with outside of mafia that I've met here) he has been rather sketchy in his appearances lately. If anything his silence does point to him being mafia (or simply having forgotten about the game).
does not realize that marvs universal TL absence is obviously not connected to a mafia game he signed up for ages ago? Walk me through this. Do you actually believe marv would stop himself from posting on this forum because of this game? Not to mention that he stopped posting way before it started and he could know his alignment.
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Palmar, for sicklucker:
On June 20 2017 20:54 Rels wrote:sicklucker being this motivated for a D1 lynch is pretty weird. + he didn't react the way I would expect him to HF pushing him. Remained strangely calm and collected for him while still trying to get annul lynched. Usually that's where he becomes super townie, by having sprayed of posts that are strange and genius at the same time. Didn't happened there. Didn't happen everywhere in his filter. Show nested quote +On June 16 2017 07:58 sicklucker wrote:On June 16 2017 07:58 Holyflare wrote:
just realise that sicklucker just said annul has towny sounding posts just now and has absolutely no real reason to scum read annul but is voting him over xata who he doesn't even realise doesn't scum read rayn i said very slightly convincing plz... And HF is killed N1 despite being a likely doc protect. + it might be pretty ironic for me to say that against him. But at EOD1 I doubted my vote hardcore because of some annul posts and almsot switched to Xata. SL might be the best player at reading those situations, but he didn't switch, and didn't even show it made him think. Like, I would have expected him to play at least like he described I did: Show nested quote +On June 16 2017 21:15 sicklucker wrote:On June 16 2017 11:50 darthfoley wrote:
Rels also looks problematic given his enter the thread, procede to not vote then voted as the 5th on annul to tie it 5-5.
Not like I Rels out from a mile away na rels is alright his logic was good he looked hesitant at the end too + after that I become one of his main target despite being one of his main townread for no reason other than "let's lynch in the annul wagon". I think I wanna lynch SL. What's good too is that if he's town it should become obvious.
On June 20 2017 21:46 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2017 20:09 Holyflare wrote:On June 16 2017 07:58 Holyflare wrote:
just realise that sicklucker just said annul has towny sounding posts just now and has absolutely no real reason to scum read annul but is voting him over xata who he doesn't even realise doesn't scum read rayn Such a good post. Show nested quote +On June 16 2017 22:02 Holyflare wrote:On June 16 2017 08:16 sicklucker wrote:
to be fair tho I mostly drove the close lynch. and I know im town so from my perspective I dont think xata necessary has to be mafia. but I completely understand people who think he and I am from what happened I might think the same This is posted after the lynch. You don't even think it makes him mafia. A contested lynch means shit all. It's mafias job to make lynches mean nothing. It could be two towns, one mafia one town, anything. You haven't once used any information from it to make the reads nonsense you're posting. You have me in a lynch list with xatalos who you are now calling mafia despite me trying to also hammer him. You have really really bad reads in this list. You have Eversince who has been pushed by vivax for eternity and myself since the flip, no evaluation. You take bull shit posts and turn it into bigger bull shit reads and have no game sense. This is not the town SL I know that is solving conspiracy theories. This is an sl who more than likely saw his buddy xatalos up for lynch and fabricated nonsense to save him. When was the last time you tried on a day 1? When was there a time you've ever given a shit enough for a day 1 lynch to matter so much over a really thin town read on xata? Never, that's when. I will make people see the light. Fiery vengeance will rain down upon you. Show nested quote +On June 17 2017 02:31 Holyflare wrote:
Also now that I'm reminded of it. That skynx read post was reaaaaalllyyy bad. Show nested quote +On June 17 2017 03:25 Holyflare wrote:On June 17 2017 00:54 Skynx wrote:
Anyway for sure 1 scum between sl/fefe/rux. They all look equally bad dunno where to start.
Grack ninja vote is terrible. Eversince and Rels keep going down in ranks but i havent read their eod properly yet.
Other terrible votes off train are btdt and TW. Maybe Vivax aswell but i think he is town.
My plan is to also ignore HF and Palmar for a bit. They can be any alignment and so far pretty useless, too high level stuff for me.
VA can go suck a dick.
rayn is a mystery
I think tomorrow we can start the lynch with grack or any of first trio that started the train.
Updated townlist: disfo, df, damdred, Koshi, Vivax
Sl/ruxxar/tw/btdt/HF for postgame cred Why isn't xata in this list anywhere? And why am I scum with sl after trying to lynch him?
In the last quotes, first two quotes are about SL, last two are about Skynx.
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yeah i think i'll make a decent case on sl later.
basically:
creates the annul wagon via "read his filter didnt like it"
pushes really hard (uncharacteristic for sl)
has a false/bad xata town lean/read
says xata might be town after all after flip
aaaand:
On June 16 2017 07:54 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2017 07:51 Holyflare wrote:On June 16 2017 07:49 sicklucker wrote:On June 16 2017 07:47 Holyflare wrote:On June 16 2017 07:45 Eversince wrote:
This is going to make me look like garbage.
I haven't read anything since pg 35ish. Give me the the rough of what's happen between now and then for Xata, Annul, and SL.
I don't have time to fact check so my vote is entirely blind at this point. sl came to the thread and town read xatalos because xatalos has different reads to most of the game (when in fact xatalos' reads are blending with the rest of the game sl says i'm mafia for calling all the town leaders mafia and it's my mafia meta when 100% of other games he states my mafia meta is to push lurkers sl is trying to force the wagon onto someone who is blatantly self-preserving and revealing his plan for all to see, who stubbornly refuses to change his reads despite everyone yelling at him mafia sl is mafia I said that because xata had a mafia read on ryan and everyone else town read him. get over it you lost save your buddy xata doesn't have a mafia read on rayn, he said he can still be scum but doesn't actually say he scum reads him at all just remember this later ^
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On June 20 2017 23:11 Palmar wrote:
Can someone also link to a case on Grack?
ruxxar's "case":
On June 20 2017 21:07 ruXxar wrote:Lynch grack: RuxxarDisformation Vivax Darthfoley FecalFeastVayneAuthority Skynx Rayn Eversince ChezitwoSicklucker No opinion on grack:Palmar BeentheredonethatBlazinghand Thinks grack is town:Tumblewood
RelsPeople voting for grack(automatic town pile for today):Ruxxar
Fefe
Chezitwo
Beentheredonethat
The grack case posted from earlier + Show Spoiler +On June 18 2017 21:39 Vivax wrote:
Since you seem bored.
Can you explain why you think Grack is mafia? Sure! Let's start with the obvious: 1) He hammers the town lynch. On June 16 2017 07:47 Grackaroni wrote:
##Vote: Annul At the point of this vote, the votes are 5 on annul, 5 on xatalos. Grackaroni pushes it over the edge with this vote to 6-5 in favor of annul. 2) He doesn't try to solve the game. How many scum reads did he have the whole game? Let's see: DF: On June 15 2017 04:10 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2017 03:57 darthfoley wrote:On June 15 2017 03:57 Grackaroni wrote:On June 15 2017 03:49 disformation wrote:@xata: ruxxar gave his reason to vote koshi later on. On June 15 2017 02:32 ruXxar wrote:On June 15 2017 02:09 Fecalfeast wrote:On June 15 2017 02:05 ruXxar wrote:
I have read Koshis filter and determined he is mafia.
##vote koshi Care to elaborate? Oh also ##vote ruxxar Sure. This post: On June 14 2017 20:22 Koshi wrote:On June 14 2017 19:49 Holyflare wrote:
Wow i got him boys.
Rayn comes in with the defence. Totes mafia too. btw if you type things like this, one might think you are just throwing suspicion around and not solving the game. You can't call me 3p, and then call rayn mafia with me. I guess you can. But it doesn't make sense. And I am pretty sure my play will not match mafia meta. I don't like this statement. Comparing his own play to what an expected "mafia meta" is as a defense and validation of his own play seems like he's way too concious of how he's trying to project himself. Add that on top of all his waffling reads between scum/town, and non-commital it makes it seem to me like he's trying to thread a golden middleground. but as fefe pointed out: On June 15 2017 02:40 Fecalfeast wrote:On June 15 2017 02:32 ruXxar wrote:On June 15 2017 02:09 Fecalfeast wrote:On June 15 2017 02:05 ruXxar wrote:
I have read Koshis filter and determined he is mafia.
##vote koshi Care to elaborate? Oh also ##vote ruxxar Sure. This post: On June 14 2017 20:22 Koshi wrote:On June 14 2017 19:49 Holyflare wrote:
Wow i got him boys.
Rayn comes in with the defence. Totes mafia too. btw if you type things like this, one might think you are just throwing suspicion around and not solving the game. You can't call me 3p, and then call rayn mafia with me. I guess you can. But it doesn't make sense. And I am pretty sure my play will not match mafia meta. I don't like this statement. Comparing his own play to what an expected "mafia meta" is as a defense and validation of his own play seems like he's way too concious of how he's trying to project himself. Add that on top of all his waffling reads between scum/town, and non-commital it makes it seem to me like he's trying to thread a golden middleground. I actually like this explanation. Sorta wish you said this instead of just 'read Koshi's filter decided he's mafia' as now I'm suspicious you went back to read his filter after my post to find a post that is suspect. For the second part: People generally think this is scummy and it's not. It just generates suspicion because people don't like to see unjustified reads. Mafia won't ever just carelessly throw out a scum read without giving any thought about how they are going to defend it unless they are under some kind of heavy pressure to produce a read. Also I liked Ruxxar's reasoning for his Koshi vote. who do you think is scum? I'm kinda looking at you tbh. On June 15 2017 04:38 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2017 04:27 darthfoley wrote:On June 15 2017 04:10 Grackaroni wrote:On June 15 2017 03:57 darthfoley wrote:On June 15 2017 03:57 Grackaroni wrote:On June 15 2017 03:49 disformation wrote:@xata: ruxxar gave his reason to vote koshi later on. On June 15 2017 02:32 ruXxar wrote:On June 15 2017 02:09 Fecalfeast wrote:On June 15 2017 02:05 ruXxar wrote:
I have read Koshis filter and determined he is mafia.
##vote koshi Care to elaborate? Oh also ##vote ruxxar Sure. This post: On June 14 2017 20:22 Koshi wrote:On June 14 2017 19:49 Holyflare wrote:
Wow i got him boys.
Rayn comes in with the defence. Totes mafia too. btw if you type things like this, one might think you are just throwing suspicion around and not solving the game. You can't call me 3p, and then call rayn mafia with me. I guess you can. But it doesn't make sense. And I am pretty sure my play will not match mafia meta. I don't like this statement. Comparing his own play to what an expected "mafia meta" is as a defense and validation of his own play seems like he's way too concious of how he's trying to project himself. Add that on top of all his waffling reads between scum/town, and non-commital it makes it seem to me like he's trying to thread a golden middleground. but as fefe pointed out: On June 15 2017 02:40 Fecalfeast wrote:On June 15 2017 02:32 ruXxar wrote:On June 15 2017 02:09 Fecalfeast wrote:On June 15 2017 02:05 ruXxar wrote:
I have read Koshis filter and determined he is mafia.
##vote koshi Care to elaborate? Oh also ##vote ruxxar Sure. This post: On June 14 2017 20:22 Koshi wrote:On June 14 2017 19:49 Holyflare wrote:
Wow i got him boys.
Rayn comes in with the defence. Totes mafia too. btw if you type things like this, one might think you are just throwing suspicion around and not solving the game. You can't call me 3p, and then call rayn mafia with me. I guess you can. But it doesn't make sense. And I am pretty sure my play will not match mafia meta. I don't like this statement. Comparing his own play to what an expected "mafia meta" is as a defense and validation of his own play seems like he's way too concious of how he's trying to project himself. Add that on top of all his waffling reads between scum/town, and non-commital it makes it seem to me like he's trying to thread a golden middleground. I actually like this explanation. Sorta wish you said this instead of just 'read Koshi's filter decided he's mafia' as now I'm suspicious you went back to read his filter after my post to find a post that is suspect. For the second part: People generally think this is scummy and it's not. It just generates suspicion because people don't like to see unjustified reads. Mafia won't ever just carelessly throw out a scum read without giving any thought about how they are going to defend it unless they are under some kind of heavy pressure to produce a read. Also I liked Ruxxar's reasoning for his Koshi vote. who do you think is scum? I'm kinda looking at you tbh. Look at me as much as you like, but why? I'm mostly just looking for someone kinda in the middle blending in. Disfo: On June 15 2017 07:36 Grackaroni wrote:
I like Rayn too though. And I'm ok with a Disfo lynch. HF: On June 16 2017 07:32 Grackaroni wrote:
Holy flare seems like a very good vote. He's being ridiculously over the top trying to push this SL lynch.
I haven't liked either of his Vivax/Koshi pushes. And he dragged the Vivax one out for the hell of it. On June 16 2017 07:10 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2017 06:58 annul wrote:
not at all. i am 1 switch away from majority. with the tiebreaker being what it is, i have no choice.
i WANT to vote for koshi/ruxxar since they are both mafia and either is a fine kill. but alas. Annul seems like an ok lynch to me. I dislike that he doesn't waver at all in his Koshi read after 10 pages of filter. It would be worthwhile to check if he tends to be very confident in his reads as town, because his are still based on things from the early game. I'm on my phone on a train, and the internet is not great. Palmar: On June 19 2017 03:36 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2017 03:36 Palmar wrote:
Ill figure out why we're all so happy together tomorrow Where've you been PALMAR? Scummy scum scum. "I'm ok with". "Seems like". There's 0 commitment to anything here. Just superficial non-sense without any substance. So obviously he followed up and actually tried to push his scum reads? Nope. Well, at least he voted for his scum reads? Nope. It's like a total non-commitment to any of his "reads" and just screams "I'm just trying to blend in". And thats the total effort he's put into scumhunting the whole game.
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well the grack case is kinda:
underwhelming as fuck
hammered annul
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there isnt much cases to be made beyond the voting analysis. I regret not being here for that deadline now that it's the focal point of this game. I'm going to take a quick look at something that felt off.
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On June 20 2017 23:53 disformation wrote:
well the grack case is kinda:
underwhelming as fuck
hammered annul
I think the first point is far more important here but yeah.
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Jesus, VA is almost too reasonable/amiable to be town.
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So a common ground between DF and vivax the most recent NKs was Grack/rayn as targets.
Vivax also scumread ES/me.
DF softed blue all yesterday but he wasn't, could be another reason he died besides being very town.
So I see no reason to oppose a grack lynch with this info.
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On June 21 2017 00:03 VayneAuthority wrote:
So a common ground between DF and vivax the most recent NKs was Grack/rayn as targets.
Vivax also scumread ES/me.
DF softed blue all yesterday but he wasn't, could be another reason he died besides being very town.
Oh yeah, I remember facepalming when I read a post where it was SO OBVIOUS so he was faking it.
On June 21 2017 00:03 VayneAuthority wrote:
So I see no reason to oppose a grack lynch with this info.
Maybe instead of mechanically choosing your lynch target you should read what people are talking about and vote who is the scummiest dude mmmmm ?
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and since we're there, your read on rayn ?
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