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disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 18 2017 23:22 GMT
#2819
well. bed for realsies now.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 18 2017 23:29 GMT
#2825
@ruxxar:
good questipn. i thibk grack is a harder to read / meta plsyer, but he has been really hands of this game. let me check tomorrow.

@va:
damn thats good.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 18 2017 23:32 GMT
#2828
fyeah i did tr fefe d1. was scum with him once and he was faily unmotivated. though he just came iut of a scum loss back then.
will also check him again tomorrow.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 18 2017 23:58 GMT
#2843
vivi prolly town. remind me to explain later.
could you explain the btdt scum read?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 19 2017 07:47 GMT
#2860
6 hours of sleep.
zombie disformation mode activated.
filtering btdt.

will sneak in some mafia at work. will def. be around this evening, but i think i might go to bed a tad earlier today.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 19 2017 08:08 GMT
#2861
i agree that btdt's read progression on koshi later d1 is really strange.
dont understand how he goes from:
On June 15 2017 17:49 beentheredonethat wrote:
Good morning. It's a bank holiday today in Germany and I am spending it with my GF on a wandering tour. I'll probably be in front of a computer in the evening if at all.

I skimmed everything besides the last two pages. Koshi looks better, Xata worse. Ruxxar weird. My mind screamed TOWN when I read rayns big post but I didn't like that he disappeared right after. Hf still town.

Disfo not town anymore because rayn made me paranoid.

Thats kind of where im at.

to:
On June 16 2017 01:58 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2017 00:04 Koshi wrote:
On June 15 2017 00:03 darthfoley wrote:
I don't like the annul town reads.

I think his A-B comparison thing is scummy.


I agree with Koshi and darthfoley here

to:
On June 16 2017 02:04 beentheredonethat wrote:
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On June 15 2017 04:08 Koshi wrote:
I am obvious town and you can't fucking read me HF. How shit are you then? Just because I didn't open like I used to and now you are fucking reading everything as biased as fuck in some wicked way to proof you can read somebody after 1 sentence while you are so fucking blind it is really hilarious tbh.

This is the thing why I don't buy Koshi's "rage" by the way.

Like, when you start a big sentence, people will remember the first and the last thing you said and not the whole rest. The structure used here is "I am obvious town", then blabla reasons "just because", followed up by "you're so fucking blind it's hilarious".

Koshi shouldn't put emphasis on WHAT he is. He will always claim town, as anyone would, regardless of actual alignment. But instead, he yells "I AM TOWN", puts the reasoning (which is the IMPORTANT part) right between two seemingly emotional statements

I have caught Koshi already as scum D1 and I'm fairly confident here.

When I skimmed this morning he looked better but I just skimmed. so, yeah. my vote is good where it's at.

to:
On June 16 2017 02:06 beentheredonethat wrote:
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On June 15 2017 04:10 Koshi wrote:
Anyway. Enough rage. You won't see more of that. Please somebody call it fake rage. I am going to post less because this is not really fun for me and when a lot of people are tunneled there is not much I can do.


I'll continue to solve the game but might just do a couple posts from time to time. But maybe not that much.


I have enough pages of filter to let you analyse. I was truthful in every post and tried to solve the game. Problem is that trying was greeted by dumb accusation way too many times instead of some help.

He claimed to post less, then went on to post actually more than he did before (3.5 pages of filter).
Which is town indicative in a weird way?

to:
On June 16 2017 02:08 beentheredonethat wrote:
Okay I am officially tunneled on Koshi :D

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On June 15 2017 05:14 Koshi wrote:
Anyway. I also don't see why Ruxxar is mafia. More likely lynchbait.

It's not because somebody types things you think are weird/disagree with that he is mafia. You have to look at motive and the intention to solve the game within a person his capabilities.

He wants to lynch you though. So is he lynchbait or is he scum being fine with the Koshi wagon?

the tunnel post is ultra strange to me...

over xata. who he also scumread quite heavily, but ignored pretty hard during that time. did he ever comment on xata's big reads post?
wish he would have been there at deadline. would have been interesting to see where his vote ended up.

i feel like btdt's rage d2 was slightly more town, but he is very volatile as either alignment. Xata baby sealing it up can also be either a way to discredit btdt or protect him. so d2 is a bit wifomy for btdt and i kinda want to treat it as nai.

@btdt can you explain that progression a bit more?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 19 2017 08:12 GMT
#2862
also @btdt:
can you link the game where you found scum koshi d1?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 19 2017 08:24 GMT
#2863
as for my tr on vivax:
i once had a game where i got in a huge annoying fight with vivax n1.
Got tilted pretty hard, claimed cop n1. as the cop. not entirely vivi's fault was way too stressed out about the game etc..
vivi was town too btw.

since then i kinda have this read that if someone wants to strangle, he is likely town.
On June 19 2017 05:33 Vivax wrote:
And besides it's factually wrong in DFs case as I have been posting enough for an auto day, and for disfo it's just pointless as no matter how many times you find yourself disagreeing with someone, it won't make that someone mafia unless you have something in particular.

I have I think all my reads explained, some are more superficial some less and if you think you are in another game then go to that post, quote it and tell me what's wrong about it.

But what you're doing is pointless waste of space.

the bold part is like exactly the tone that made me go up the wall in the cop game.
plus he is fairly stubborn in his dealings with df, too.

so i think he fulfills the criteria.

i'd prolly lynch a whole lot of ppl before vivi for now.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 19 2017 08:25 GMT
#2864
fefe and grack next
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 19 2017 08:46 GMT
#2869
On June 19 2017 17:38 beentheredonethat wrote:
the solution to btdt playing how he played is super easy

I have not read a lot of this game. Thus I stick to claims. darthfoley's narrative is super fake and I am highly worried about him being scum. Here's why:

1. I was not in thread when Xata vs. Annul happened. I left the thread and I only came back after the flip. I hadn't read shit and I would've joined the Xata train if I had been in thread. You're completely dismissing the fact that I simply wasn't there. There was no possibility for me to vote Xata.

2. During N1, I repeatedly said that Xata should be the shot.

3. When I came back to the thread (and admittedly didn't read shit) I was super content with Xata being the lynch. I joined his wagon rather early.

4. Yep, I defended scum claiming cop. Why the fuck would I go out of my scum way to defend my scum teammate who at the point where I'm trying it is already the lynch? It's absolutely pointless, it's dumb, and it doesn't even fit my scum meta. The last game where I was scum was won because I bussed my teammate super hardcore, starting D1. Why would I ever stop blaming Xata here?




bold part is correct. which is why i said "wish he was there at deadline"
the problem i have is the following:
from your filter i am not sure why you were so confident in your koshi read that you voted koshi over xata in the first place.
basically where you go from "koshi looks better, xata worse" to the "tunnel" on koshi
guess ill try to dig up the game you are referring to later
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 19 2017 08:59 GMT
#2871
aight. well, who do you think is scum?
gut feeling tells me i like grack the least out of the usual suspects on the annul train.
but i will reread him later.
though it would be nice if rels would explain his d1 read on xata.

dunno i hope we have like 5 investigatives xD
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 19 2017 09:01 GMT
#2874
i also have a tr on like most/nearly all of the more active players.
so it is also possible that scum is like team afk and has very very little thread presence.
actually somewhat likely.

i also hope rayn starts posting soon, cause he is super null so far to me.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 19 2017 09:02 GMT
#2875
On June 19 2017 18:01 beentheredonethat wrote:
like, xata posted baby seals at some point so he conceded. that makes it super likely that there are scummers on the xata wagon to gain towncred.

fair point.
but that means it is either me or skynx.
and sorry to disappoint you: i am very much town. ;D
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 19 2017 09:03 GMT
#2876
that reminds me again.
i think hf pointed out some skynx posts as really bad.

adding skynx to my reread list.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 19 2017 09:05 GMT
#2877
so i guess something like 1-2 more scum on annul, maybe skynx, one afk/off wagon would sound plausible to me.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 19 2017 09:06 GMT
#2878
since xata was the rb there has to be more scum on annul though

dont think nobody of the scum team would at least try to save the rb
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 19 2017 09:17 GMT
#2882
one or more?
On June 19 2017 08:23 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 08:02 Half the Sky wrote:
Final Vote Count - Day 1


annul (7): sicklucker, ruXxar, Fecalfeast, Xatalos, Rels, Grackaroni, Eversince
Xatalos (6): darthfoley, Koshi, Skynx, disformation, annul, Holyflare
sicklucker (2): Palmar, Holyflare, Vivax
Koshi (1): Holyflare, disformation, beentheredonethat, Vivax, annul, ruXxar, Vivax
marvellosity (1): Koshi, Tumblewood
Skynx (1): VayneAuthority
ruXxar (0): Fecalfeast, Xatalos, Vivax, annul
Tumblewood (0): ruXxar
Palmar (0): sicklucker
raynpelikoneet (0): Xatalos, sicklucker, Tumblewood
Palmar (0): Koshi, Skynx
beentheredonethat (0): Koshi
Eversince (0): sicklucker

Not voted (4): Damdred, raynpelikoneet, AMG, marvellosity

Half the Sky is getting ready to throw annul out of her whiskey bar.
Day 1 ends in at 23:00 GMT (+00:00).


The voting thread is here and only votes in the voting thread will be counted.



Updated

since everyone but skynx and me on that wagon already flipped that would be quite hard.
and while i appreciate some paranoia, i am not sure how you are going to read me as scum outside of tinfoil.^^
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 19 2017 09:19 GMT
#2883
well technically df isnt flipped/confirmed.
but i think it is very very unlikely he is scum.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 19 2017 09:20 GMT
#2884
and if team scum is also team afk, it is not impossible for the xata wagon to be pure.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 19 2017 12:29 GMT
#2904
mh..
fefe's read on xata d1 was kinda meh. very similar to rels's.
On June 16 2017 04:58 Fecalfeast wrote:
I could vote skynx. Xatas filter isn't great but it doesn't seem scummy to me. He does a lot of commenting on other people's posts but does post a bunch of reads before he goes afk which is helpful

On June 16 2017 07:23 Fecalfeast wrote:
Also yeah xata had some pretty run of the mill reads when sl said they weren't



but he did bait hf into switchting to xata...
On June 16 2017 07:57 Fecalfeast wrote:
I can't stay on this wagon with ruxx xata sl and grack sooo I'm gonna hop onto xata

On June 16 2017 07:59 Fecalfeast wrote:
Still haven't done it i was hoping to bait someone to hammer



that bait kinda confuses me now. why would scum bait ppl into switching to a partner. why would town not switch themselves? huh?
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