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disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 20 2017 11:00 GMT
#3341
On June 20 2017 19:52 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2017 19:07 Rels wrote:
On June 20 2017 18:50 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 20 2017 18:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
btdt why is disformation mafia?

He spent the last 2-3 pages with painting a beautiful "btdt is scum" narrative, culminating in a "NEVER UNVOTE HERE" fake-rage so he doesn't have to end up on Grack.

Disagree. On the contrary disfo's angry posts cements my townread on him. I would expect him to be more ironic and mocking as scum when he knows he has much more power than you.

So far, he was in his "everyone townreads me"-comfort zone. I kicked him out of that zone, of course he's frustrated. So you're right, the rage might be genuine, but it's scum indicated and not town-indicative.

no im frustrated because everytime i put a ton of effort and time into the game some idiot comes and scum reads me.

like i would understand a scumread on d1 (i usually dont have strong d1s) or when im in waffle land, but not when i go full figure-the-game-out-tryhard-mode.
i should prolly just play like tw or bh.

look at my d3. why would i as scum try to re-read everything and figure out as much as i can, instead just jumping on any available train?
you should be able to see from my posts that i basically start at 0 and poe my way down the playerlist and that i reread a ton of stuff.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 20 2017 11:01 GMT
#3342
kinda 50/50 on whether i should say fuck this game tbh
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 20 2017 11:04 GMT
#3343
and ofc skynx is in teh scumpile now. he has fallen of incredible hard after my d1 tr on him.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 20 2017 11:06 GMT
#3344
On June 20 2017 18:50 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2017 18:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
btdt why is disformation mafia?

He spent the last 2-3 pages with painting a beautiful "btdt is scum" narrative, culminating in a "NEVER UNVOTE HERE" fake-rage so he doesn't have to end up on Grack. Vivax was hardcore on Grack and was probably killed because of that, also he was townreading me, so I assume scum!disformation wanted to start a btdt wagon with the town cred he gained from the xata flip (bla fake red check bla).
Cherry on the cake: scum killed always into the super active people yet 22-page-filter-disformation survived for some reason.

it's like a puzzle, it all goes together. disfo wasn't realler eager to push me on my hard defense on xata during d2, he left this to chez and df (which makes chez probably town btw) and while disfo feels active, he's not really doing much. Even starting the day with that weird "I have no scumreads" post but then suddenly locked grack locked btdt?

I think that's as solid as it gets but a grack flip would kinda confirm that lynch avert attempt

i had 3 posts on you?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 20 2017 11:07 GMT
#3345
and im pretty sure i started the day with "i have no townreads" not "no scumreads"
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 20 2017 11:08 GMT
#3346
the fuck man.
"His D2 however is atrocious. He's basically yelling "I'm town" all day long without looking more into Xata. Note how he's still voting Xata because he wanted to vote with Skynx and HF and he doesn't have any original thoughts. Given how close it was I'm pretty sure that D2 fakeclaim was directed onto scumformation to give him towncred because he's the most active scummer by far in that team. "
why the fuck would i look more at xata when that guy fakes a red on me?
Chezitwo
Profile Joined January 2015
United States553 Posts
June 20 2017 11:09 GMT
#3347
On June 20 2017 20:01 disformation wrote:
kinda 50/50 on whether i should say fuck this game tbh

Chill you aren't in danger of being lynched because one guy calls you mafia. Just do your thing and shrugg it off.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 20 2017 11:10 GMT
#3348
aaaaand i wasnt the only one to ask for a vig on xata.
yeah in hindsight if they have a scum doc or some bs like that that was a mistake but dont pretend i was the only one to ask for that.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 20 2017 11:10 GMT
#3349
On June 20 2017 20:09 Chezitwo wrote:
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On June 20 2017 20:01 disformation wrote:
kinda 50/50 on whether i should say fuck this game tbh

Chill you aren't in danger of being lynched because one guy calls you mafia. Just do your thing and shrugg it off.

yes but reading his crap makes my blood boil
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 20 2017 11:14 GMT
#3350
the "putting words in my mouth to fit his narrative" in part #5 is also real stronk.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 20 2017 11:19 GMT
#3351
On June 20 2017 19:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On June 20 2017 19:11 Rels wrote:
On June 20 2017 19:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 20 2017 19:05 Rels wrote:
I have explained 3. It's literally the part you erased after the part you quoted. I didn't "figure out I was wrong in this conclusion", I just thought it was less strong than I initially thought. I still think it's a small town indicator.

Why is it a town indicator?

'cause in the narrative where she's scum with Xata and came to save him EOD1, it's more likely that she was fake AFK and faked entering the thread to save him. That what was said against her.

I still don't understand this. You basically just went back in circles and said the reasoning is the same you earlier said is not actually a reasoning to call him town for it.

Can you explain it in words i can understand? We have concluded she probably didn't fake her entering the thread. But why is misreading/misremembering something a towntell, even slightest? Because i don't see why.

'cause it was a tense EOD, and if I made a big post pushing the balance towards or against her partner she would have remember. Maybe. As said it is not super strong, just an indicator.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 20 2017 11:27 GMT
#3352
On June 20 2017 19:49 beentheredonethat wrote:
I'm on page 11. I have to admit that his N1 looks very good, especially asking the vig shot to be directed towards Xata. However, Xata doesn't die, so either vig didn't shoot or mafia has a protection mechanic or the roleblock got lucky? Hm, speculations. I'd say scum has a protective mechanic

looooool
never scum. BTDT is never ever scum. This is him solving the game right there. Speculating that the scumteam might have a prot role 'cause it fits with his belief that disfo is scum. I'm never ever voting him.
Sry BTDT but I'm not convinced at all by your case. Apart from point 1 which is what annoyed me about disfo at the beginning. But the rest is him being disfo. Doesn't make him scum.
Chezitwo
Profile Joined January 2015
United States553 Posts
June 20 2017 11:32 GMT
#3353
On June 20 2017 20:14 disformation wrote:
the "putting words in my mouth to fit his narrative" in part #5 is also real stronk.

Anyways, we are not lynching either of you 2 so you should both probably ignore each other for a while.

Currently we are lynching the Gracken. Alternatives consist of SL, TW and other underwhelming people but not of btdt or disformation. A Palmar wagon could also be useful given his total negligence of the game.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 20 2017 11:36 GMT
#3354
eh. yeah ignoring btdt sounds like the bestest idea ever.
100% fine with a grack lynch atm.

think i'll slap a vote on palmar, as i think his filter is horribly, horribly, horribly underwhelming.

if i am more motivated later again ill look into rayn vs rels. and look at hf's points on sl again.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 20 2017 11:37 GMT
#3355
at least rels know hows to read me properly (regardless of his alignment)
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 20 2017 11:37 GMT
#3356
On June 17 2017 01:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2017 16:52 Rels wrote:
On June 15 2017 12:05 darthfoley wrote:
Anyone else wonder why Rels was like 24 town reads with caveats to every read? How can you call Xata's post on ruXxar "good' when he just copy and pasted what like 4 other people have already pointed out?

On June 15 2017 12:07 darthfoley wrote:
Like how can Rels view my case on Xatalos as convincing and pretty good while also town reading Xatalos for a thread sentiment case on ruXxar?

Don't like Rels so far

It was a chronological list of things of interest while I was catching up. When I found something on a player that was already on the list I just put another thing under the list of that player.
So:
DF:
- also understanding Skynx post + doing his own thing (p 18). Dunno why he doesn't like Xata though. Didnt find anything Xata did so far was AI.
- nice post explaining why Xata is scummy. Convincing too, the bit where Xata missed Skynx' logic.

First dash refers to this post.
Second dash refers to this post.

Then this:
Xata:
- good post on ruxxar.

Refers to this post.

this post. it is all over the place, starts from nothing and ends up on nothing.
idk how to explain it more clearly.

On June 17 2017 01:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Meh i am bad... The post doesnt actually explain anything (in how he got where he did), it just repeats what he did...

On June 17 2017 01:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
But Rels has nothing to give us so far.
Have you, disformation?
Havev you, Eversince?


Why, after you realized your reason to scumrad me is wrong, I continue to be a main scumread ?
You've played plenty of games with me where I give nothing early. Why the call for me being killed just after ?

On June 17 2017 03:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Xatalos is mafia too. Shoot Xatalos, or Rels.. but Xatalos.

On June 17 2017 03:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
rels
sicklucker
xatalos
disformation

skynx
tumble

btdt

kill into this list and win.

disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 20 2017 11:40 GMT
#3357
and inb4 "y u no voting grack"

as i explained yesterday i would prefer to have two wagons cause vc etc.

and ill let rels do his thing for now.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 20 2017 11:46 GMT
#3358
also explained earlier why not tw today
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 20 2017 11:54 GMT
#3359
sicklucker being this motivated for a D1 lynch is pretty weird. + he didn't react the way I would expect him to HF pushing him. Remained strangely calm and collected for him while still trying to get annul lynched. Usually that's where he becomes super townie, by having sprayed of posts that are strange and genius at the same time. Didn't happened there. Didn't happen everywhere in his filter.
On June 16 2017 07:58 sicklucker wrote:
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On June 16 2017 07:58 Holyflare wrote:
just realise that sicklucker just said annul has towny sounding posts just now and has absolutely no real reason to scum read annul but is voting him over xata who he doesn't even realise doesn't scum read rayn


i said very slightly convincing plz...

And HF is killed N1 despite being a likely doc protect.
+ it might be pretty ironic for me to say that against him. But at EOD1 I doubted my vote hardcore because of some annul posts and almsot switched to Xata. SL might be the best player at reading those situations, but he didn't switch, and didn't even show it made him think. Like, I would have expected him to play at least like he described I did:
On June 16 2017 21:15 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 11:50 darthfoley wrote:
Rels also looks problematic given his enter the thread, procede to not vote then voted as the 5th on annul to tie it 5-5.

Not like I Rels out from a mile away


na rels is alright his logic was good he looked hesitant at the end too

+ after that I become one of his main target despite being one of his main townread for no reason other than "let's lynch in the annul wagon".

I think I wanna lynch SL. What's good too is that if he's town it should become obvious.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 20 2017 11:55 GMT
#3360
On June 20 2017 20:46 disformation wrote:
also explained earlier why not tw today

quote ? I'm almost out of time so I can't read his filter now
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