EPTOn June 17 2017 21:39 disformation wrote:
so yeah it is a kinda sloppy rayn, but i am not convinced that is nai
so yeah it is a kinda sloppy rayn, but i am not convinced that is nai
ai not nai.
ffs i suck at typing today.
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ai not nai. ffs i suck at typing today. | ||
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if rels is starting to push me over me "doing nothing" he can very well be scum. he tried that before. also had a bunch of drunk posts in the game he tried that. xD | ||
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On June 17 2017 21:55 Vivax wrote: But I have trouble seeing how disfo can think Skynx is mafia cause PoE when he was on mafia Xatalos (in his world). i said IF there is mafia on xata it has to be skynx from my pov. | ||
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ill try to scrape together the time to post a bunch (plans this evening as well) over the weekend and then you guys decide. | ||
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dont like that he never explained his scum read on me. i dont mind his paranoia on hf: On June 16 2017 07:32 Grackaroni wrote: Holy flare seems like a very good vote. He's being ridiculously over the top trying to push this SL lynch. I haven't liked either of his Vivax/Koshi pushes. And he dragged the Vivax one out for the hell of it. and his explanation for his vote: On June 16 2017 07:10 Grackaroni wrote: Annul seems like an ok lynch to me. I dislike that he doesn't waver at all in his Koshi read after 10 pages of filter. It would be worthwhile to check if he tends to be very confident in his reads as town, because his are still based on things from the early game. I'm on my phone on a train, and the internet is not great. On June 16 2017 07:30 Grackaroni wrote: Xatalos was pretty meh. I legitimately don't think he has been any more meh than disfo. The one scum game I remember from him he played a very aggressive style. On June 16 2017 07:55 Grackaroni wrote: I don't have much to say beyond what I've said decently in my filter. Annul seems like a better lynch than Xatalos to me. HF push on SL seems a lot more agenda driven than HF believing he has a bulletproof case. other problems: very hands off never pushes anything @grack: can you link me that aggressive scum!xata game? i think i was in obs but cant find it | ||
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i dont think him being a bit more sidelined and just putting out his reads as he sees them isnt a problem. but i dont like that he doesnt really push any of them or fully explains them. kinda feels like a second tw and i have a somewhat hard time reading them. | ||
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On June 17 2017 22:16 darthfoley wrote: It also makes sense from mafia!Xatalos POV to red check disformation. We've already pointed out that if Xata flips scum, disformation is almost surely cleared as Town. Notice how the claim comes after ruXxar's post iirc. So, you red check someone who will be confirmed town if you die first. If we lynch disformation first, we basically waste a lynch on a confirmed town (in the world that Xata is mafia). Also couple that with the fact a dumb cop might CC Xat instinctively and I'm left with a pretty optimal fake claim play by someone who was already going to die. Why not go 1-1 with confirmed town/cop if you can? there are also a few ppl scum reading me in the first place. so slightly more likely to get me actually lynched- think at least grack/rayn scum read me last night | ||
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On June 16 2017 07:05 Rels wrote: I don't think Xata is scum. I can follow his logic in his filter. | ||
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On June 16 2017 07:16 Rels wrote: and WTF annul if you're scumreading SL way more than Xata why did you vote Xata instead of SL ? When voting SL then: would have put SL over you ? On June 16 2017 07:20 Rels wrote: ##Vote annul On June 16 2017 07:23 Rels wrote: Don't see a town motivation on annul's vote on Xata then begging Xata to vote SL. EITHER he prefers to lynch SL, then voting SL at that point puts him above him with 1 hour to see what happens OR he prefers Xata, but why the begging to Xata so he votes SL then Doesn't make any sense. Scum. Very likely adn then engages annul hard about that vote stuff | ||
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but i am really not sure about taht xata read. | ||
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her eod was really bad, but i liked her posts since that. | ||
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On June 17 2017 23:48 ruXxar wrote: That list is outdated. Can you give an updated list with your reflections after the night kills? i am havíng a deja vu about this: On June 16 2017 21:36 Holyflare wrote: Nothing has changed. Absolutely 0 things have changed since you independently town read Xatalos based on his play. Zero. Zilch. Nada. Why is he not on your town list? | ||
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you may call me out for not being very conclusive, but at least im trying to look at stuff. | ||
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well im out for the evening. | ||
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On June 18 2017 07:05 Chezitwo wrote: The correct play is to evaluate who the scummier one is instead of blindly lynching the check. there is a thing called claim analysis. where you look at the situation leading up to the claim. the type of the claim. if the claim is believable. is the claiming person scummy. would he gain something as scum from claiming etc etc. so look at his filter. look what he did today. look at what the situation d1 was. use your head. On June 18 2017 07:04 beentheredonethat wrote: I just come from a game where a cop claim happened and people lynched into the cop (who was VT but that's kinda missing the point) how is the correct play in claim situation to lynch the unclaimed guy that game is still ongoing stop talking about it. On June 18 2017 07:08 beentheredonethat wrote: this is 1:1 the discussion I had in NSM, where Vivax claimed cop and everyone lynched vivax who in the end flipped town, surprise surprise (VT, but that doesn't really matter here) game still ongoing... On June 18 2017 07:17 beentheredonethat wrote: One day I'll understand why "lynch the cop" is better than "lynch the red-check" one day it depends on the situation? there is no surefire always do x. you look at the stituation. you look at the claiming person. you decide if you believe the claim or not. scum can make up anything they want. do you blindly want to believe or look at the evidence and decide what is true? | ||
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