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disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 17 2017 12:37 GMT
#2301
i also liked his attempt to troll bh.
scum less likely to have humour.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 17 2017 12:39 GMT
#2302
so yeah it is a kinda sloppy rayn, but i am not convinced that is nai
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
June 17 2017 12:39 GMT
#2303
On June 17 2017 19:42 Chezitwo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2017 19:40 Xatalos wrote:
On June 17 2017 19:35 disformation wrote:
got any crumbs?
why claim so early in the game and not try to case me to get more info/reactions before claiming midday?

technically i suppose it is not impossible for there to be a framer or some stuff


I suppose you could theoretically be another unaware Miller, or there could even be a Framer role. The odds aren't good at all though in either case.

I didn't make any posts on the purpose of claiming my check (or role), since there are always risks. I think my play has been very similar to how I played as Cop last time though (including the EOD D1 events) - can't remember the name now but I can dig it up. Didn't really crumb there either, but my checks were successes either way.

Weren't people calling for a vigshot on you? I did not read very closely yesterday but I seem to remember it this way. Seems more than just risky.


Don't like this post either.
Seems like something I'd ask fellow mafia.

Currently leaning towards lynching Xata in spite of the claim.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 17 2017 12:40 GMT
#2304
On June 17 2017 21:39 disformation wrote:
so yeah it is a kinda sloppy rayn, but i am not convinced that is nai

ai not nai.
ffs i suck at typing today.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 17 2017 12:44 GMT
#2305
eh btw. really random / shitty idea coming up:
if rels is starting to push me over me "doing nothing" he can very well be scum.
he tried that before.
also had a bunch of drunk posts in the game he tried that.

xD
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
June 17 2017 12:44 GMT
#2306
Both you and Xata should be trying to solve the game and read people D1 from the perspective that the other is mafia though.

One of you is town and has the best information in the thread.
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
June 17 2017 12:50 GMT
#2307
On June 17 2017 19:28 Xatalos wrote:
Eh. I haven't been able to really keep up with the game so well up to this point, so I'll just say it: I'm the Cop and I decided to check disfo last night. He returned Mafia.

I was so close to claiming Cop several times last EOD, but managed to barely hold it in, because I wanted to use my power at least once. Luckily it paid off big time.


Well this is pretty major league bullshit but let's pretend like it could be legit I guess
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
June 17 2017 12:53 GMT
#2308
Darth do you think there's a world where they're both mafia?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
June 17 2017 12:54 GMT
#2309
Nevermind with the voting yesterday it's almost impossible. I'll just pretend it's 100% impossible.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
June 17 2017 12:55 GMT
#2310
But I have trouble seeing how disfo can think Skynx is mafia cause PoE when he was on mafia Xatalos (in his world).
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
June 17 2017 12:57 GMT
#2311
On June 17 2017 20:10 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2017 20:02 Xatalos wrote:
On June 17 2017 19:55 Chezitwo wrote:
On June 17 2017 19:51 Xatalos wrote:
On June 17 2017 19:42 Chezitwo wrote:
On June 17 2017 19:40 Xatalos wrote:
On June 17 2017 19:35 disformation wrote:
got any crumbs?
why claim so early in the game and not try to case me to get more info/reactions before claiming midday?

technically i suppose it is not impossible for there to be a framer or some stuff


I suppose you could theoretically be another unaware Miller, or there could even be a Framer role. The odds aren't good at all though in either case.

I didn't make any posts on the purpose of claiming my check (or role), since there are always risks. I think my play has been very similar to how I played as Cop last time though (including the EOD D1 events) - can't remember the name now but I can dig it up. Didn't really crumb there either, but my checks were successes either way.

Weren't people calling for a vigshot on you? I did not read very closely yesterday but I seem to remember it this way. Seems more than just risky.


I suppose it wasn't impossible I might have been shot. It wasn't for sure there even was a Vig though, and no way in hell would scum shoot me, and the optimal Vig shot would have been more in the direction of the AFK lurkers than just killing for info, so I wasn't too worried. If I had claimed / crumbed noticeably in the night, the odds of being shot/roleblocked would have increased instead.

So, are you going to solve the game today?

Because you put us in a very inconvenient position. Your claim is very suspicious.


Worst comes to worst, disfo is just a free lynch D3. I don't terribly mind that outcome since I'm dying soon no matter what.

Considering that, I think I'll have some time today to read the game so I can try to leave a legacy.


I'm thinking that if you had a red check, you wouldn't give up this easily and be so calm about it.
You should be kicking and screaming all the way to the gallows.

Like, a cop is a HUGE asset to town. You were so close to getting lynched yesterday, yet you made no effort to even change the tide of the votes, know that you could play a critical role in winning this for us.

My feeling is that if you were a cop, you would have put in way more effort yesterday to get out of a near lynch situation.


Basically my thoughts as well. No way if I were cop and I was the LEADING WAGON until 5 minutes before flip would I

1. Basically not defend myself
2. Not hint or claim or be active during the night when Koshi/Hf/myself were calling for vigi to shoot you.

watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 17 2017 12:57 GMT
#2312
On June 17 2017 21:55 Vivax wrote:
But I have trouble seeing how disfo can think Skynx is mafia cause PoE when he was on mafia Xatalos (in his world).

i said IF there is mafia on xata it has to be skynx from my pov.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 17 2017 12:58 GMT
#2313
since ppl brought up that it would be fairly odd if not at least 1 guy tried to get some cred by bussing which is a decent thought
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
June 17 2017 13:00 GMT
#2314
On June 17 2017 21:58 disformation wrote:
since ppl brought up that it would be fairly odd if not at least 1 guy tried to get some cred by bussing which is a decent thought


It's exceptionally unlikely.

If you are mafia and Ruxxar town though it would make sense that mafia skynx pinged Ruxxar at the start of D1 for +1ing your post.

I'm not on Xatalos autolynch btw. You will have to convince me you are town.
I'll be gone grilling for most of the day so you won't have to endure me for much longer.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 17 2017 13:02 GMT
#2315
fair enough. absolutely makes sense to not want to lynch the uncc blue claim.

ill try to scrape together the time to post a bunch (plans this evening as well) over the weekend and then you guys decide.
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
June 17 2017 13:09 GMT
#2316
On June 17 2017 22:00 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2017 21:58 disformation wrote:
since ppl brought up that it would be fairly odd if not at least 1 guy tried to get some cred by bussing which is a decent thought


It's exceptionally unlikely.

If you are mafia and Ruxxar town though it would make sense that mafia skynx pinged Ruxxar at the start of D1 for +1ing your post.

I'm not on Xatalos autolynch btw. You will have to convince me you are town.
I'll be gone grilling for most of the day so you won't have to endure me for much longer.


If we have a cop I absolutely do not want them to claim now, when the path is so straightforward today.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
June 17 2017 13:09 GMT
#2317
On June 17 2017 22:00 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2017 21:58 disformation wrote:
since ppl brought up that it would be fairly odd if not at least 1 guy tried to get some cred by bussing which is a decent thought


It's exceptionally unlikely.

If you are mafia and Ruxxar town though it would make sense that mafia skynx pinged Ruxxar at the start of D1 for +1ing your post.

I'm not on Xatalos autolynch btw. You will have to convince me you are town.
I'll be gone grilling for most of the day so you won't have to endure me for much longer.


Yea on the one hand it feels bad to autolynch and un-cc cop. But on the other hand, if I were cop, would I really want to out myself and probably get RB/Mafia vigi or whatever they have just to hammer someone who is flailing and needs a major play to save himself? Idk.

I just think it's unlikely that cop!Xata DOESNT say anything near EoD when he's leading wagon until 5 min before deadline AND doesn't say anything during the night to try to get a vigi shot off him. The most believable part of the claim is who he checked: disformation.

I really doubt they're both mafia together because of the voting point already mentioned. If Xata had red checked someone in the PoE like sicklucker or ES or even ruXxar, I would be more suspicious
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 17 2017 13:10 GMT
#2318
so. did take a look at grack's filter.
dont like that he never explained his scum read on me.
i dont mind his paranoia on hf:
On June 16 2017 07:32 Grackaroni wrote:
Holy flare seems like a very good vote. He's being ridiculously over the top trying to push this SL lynch.

I haven't liked either of his Vivax/Koshi pushes. And he dragged the Vivax one out for the hell of it.

and his explanation for his vote:
On June 16 2017 07:10 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 06:58 annul wrote:
not at all. i am 1 switch away from majority. with the tiebreaker being what it is, i have no choice.

i WANT to vote for koshi/ruxxar since they are both mafia and either is a fine kill. but alas.

Annul seems like an ok lynch to me. I dislike that he doesn't waver at all in his Koshi read after 10 pages of filter.

It would be worthwhile to check if he tends to be very confident in his reads as town, because his are still based on things from the early game.

I'm on my phone on a train, and the internet is not great.

On June 16 2017 07:30 Grackaroni wrote:
Xatalos was pretty meh. I legitimately don't think he has been any more meh than disfo. The one scum game I remember from him he played a very aggressive style.

On June 16 2017 07:55 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 07:48 disformation wrote:
grack comment on the ninja?
not complaining though.
have a hell of a hard time decicing between annul and xata

I don't have much to say beyond what I've said decently in my filter.

Annul seems like a better lynch than Xatalos to me. HF push on SL seems a lot more agenda driven than HF believing he has a bulletproof case.



other problems:
very hands off
never pushes anything

@grack: can you link me that aggressive scum!xata game? i think i was in obs but cant find it
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
June 17 2017 13:10 GMT
#2319
If Xata flips mafia I feel like Skynx is basically confirmed mafia
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 17 2017 13:11 GMT
#2320
well maybe you could say grack pushes his ruxxar town read.
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