EPTThat btdt either is totally clueless and not following the game.
Or he's playing dumb and is mafia.
Im leaning toward mafia.
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That btdt either is totally clueless and not following the game. Or he's playing dumb and is mafia. Im leaning toward mafia. | ||
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That yes, you need to consider the circumstance of the claim, and not simply take it at face value. I forgive their belief of my little act, and don't see anything scummy in the way they reacted. | ||
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That guy is pissing me off. Even if he's town I want to lynch him for refusing to cooperate. Either he has a really good reason to appear mafia, or he's mafia or he doesn't know/want to play this game as town. I don't like to assume people are idiots, so there's that. | ||
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That he wants to save xatalos. He only started that fight after I casted doubt in the vote on xatalos. It's not a strong connection, but its there. | ||
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On June 18 2017 20:23 ruXxar wrote: That he wants to save xatalos. He only started that fight after I casted doubt in the vote on xatalos. It's not a strong connection, but its there. You might say that it's too obvious, too futile, but that just leads down to WIFOM land. I remember a game I played with HF as mafia, where even though it was obvious our mafia teammate was going to get lynched, we fought tooth and nail to try and get him off the hook. You see, the benefit mafia gets here is twofold: 1) You at least try to save your team mate, so you have to give it a shot. 2) You buy town cred for looking like stupid down. The genius behind point number 2 is what I just mentioned above, in that people like to assume that other people are smart. Mafia wouldnt put their neck out there for a guaranteed lynch. And in this case it plays to his advantage truly. There's one counter point that goes in btdt's favor, and while I don't like to assume people are clueless, I have to bring up the finaly vote tally of day 1: On June 16 2017 08:02 Half the Sky wrote: Final Vote Count - Day 1 annul (7): sicklucker, ruXxar, Fecalfeast, Xatalos, Rels, Grackaroni, Eversince Xatalos (6): darthfoley, Koshi, Skynx, disformation, annul, Holyflare sicklucker (2): Palmar, Koshi (1): marvellosity (1): Skynx (1): VayneAuthority ruXxar (0): Tumblewood (0): Palmar (0): raynpelikoneet (0): Palmar (0): beentheredonethat (0): Eversince (0): Not voted (4): Damdred, raynpelikoneet, AMG, marvellosity Half the Sky is getting ready to throw annul out of her whiskey bar. Day 1 ends in at 23:00 GMT (+00:00). The voting thread is here and only votes in the voting thread will be counted. You see how btdt ended with his vote on koshi. This points towards him just actually being afk and not reading the game. I find this to be slightly more town inclined and in line with the appearance of not reading the game, and not actually understanding the circumstances of xata's cop claim. | ||
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How would I know, he hasn't said anything. | ||
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I will withhold my judgement on her until I've read her filter. | ||
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On June 18 2017 10:02 sicklucker wrote: well if I were the vigi i wouldnt know that fool. i could think mafia has 1kp What is this quote supposed to mean? The rules on KP is pretty clear. On May 28 2017 01:38 Onegu wrote: Game Mechanics and Setup 1 There are no notifications unless absolutely necessary. 2 There are no alignment changing mechanics. 3 A mafia powerrole may carry KP and use their ability on someone else simultaneously. 4 Roleblockers resolve first and simultaneously. Any applicable secondary abilities will be stopped. 5 The veteran, should the role exist, is roleblockable. 6 Vigilante bullets, if present, are not refundable if roleblocked or shot into protection. 7 The scumteam must shoot each night. Mafia KP = 2kp N1 + N2, 1kp thereafter - KP must be delivered by individuals and subject to RB/tracking rules. Order of Operations Roleblocks Protection KP Checks Other | ||
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On June 18 2017 21:01 Vivax wrote: That's the point. Everything anyone says today about Xatalos is Wifom. No matter if btdt, or Eversince. And you are trying to read them both for wifom. Well, I could've just refused to participate this whole cycle, but where is the fun in that... | ||
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On June 18 2017 21:39 Vivax wrote: Since you seem bored. Can you explain why you think Grack is mafia? Sure! Let's start with the obvious: 1) He hammers the town lynch. On June 16 2017 07:47 Grackaroni wrote: ##Vote: Annul At the point of this vote, the votes are 5 on annul, 5 on xatalos. Grackaroni pushes it over the edge with this vote to 6-5 in favor of annul. 2) He doesn't try to solve the game. How many scum reads did he have the whole game? Let's see: DF: On June 15 2017 04:38 Grackaroni wrote: I'm mostly just looking for someone kinda in the middle blending in. Disfo: On June 15 2017 07:36 Grackaroni wrote: I like Rayn too though. And I'm ok with a Disfo lynch. HF: On June 16 2017 07:32 Grackaroni wrote: Holy flare seems like a very good vote. He's being ridiculously over the top trying to push this SL lynch. I haven't liked either of his Vivax/Koshi pushes. And he dragged the Vivax one out for the hell of it. On June 16 2017 07:10 Grackaroni wrote: Annul seems like an ok lynch to me. I dislike that he doesn't waver at all in his Koshi read after 10 pages of filter. It would be worthwhile to check if he tends to be very confident in his reads as town, because his are still based on things from the early game. I'm on my phone on a train, and the internet is not great. "I'm ok with". "Seems like". There's 0 commitment to anything here. Just superficial non-sense without any substance. So obviously he followed up and actually tried to push his scum reads? Nope. Well, at least he voted for his scum reads? Nope. It's like a total non-commitment to any of his "reads" and just screams "I'm just trying to blend in". | ||
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On June 18 2017 09:41 sicklucker wrote: and I still cant believe mafia killed hf last night. thanks for that On June 18 2017 09:52 ruXxar wrote: Your vigi shot got wasted together with mafia nk on HF huh? On June 18 2017 10:01 sicklucker wrote: =] On June 18 2017 10:02 sicklucker wrote: well if I were the vigi i wouldnt know that fool.i could think mafia has 1kp Please explain what you mean by this. I can hardly understand what this sentence even means. How could you think that mafia has 1kp. Your thought process isn't clear to me. | ||
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On June 18 2017 22:35 sicklucker wrote: Vivax you can be a smart cookie I highly suggest you read my huge post rexxar you too. I want to win this game k thx So you finally came to the same conclusion as we all did ages ago. Well, better late than never. Your point on koshi vs annul is duly noted though. | ||
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On June 18 2017 22:44 sicklucker wrote: especially since mafia clearly respects koshis game and nked him. Why would I as mafia not kill him instead of doing an insane amount of lobbying to lynch probably one of the least experienced towns in the game There's no way you can draw that conclusion with certainty. | ||
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On June 18 2017 22:50 sicklucker wrote: I have evidence that he was nked even tho he had 5 votes on day 1 And how would you know he wasn't shot by a vigi. Here's an alternate reality: SL is mafia, and feels pressured by HF. SL NKs HF. Darth Foley is top town and pressuring mafia. Mafia NKs Darth foley. But wait! Our medic is smart and realized that DF is top town and saves him. Koshi is acting strange as 3p w/e. Vigi decides to shoot Koshi. | ||
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On June 18 2017 22:56 Xatalos wrote:   | ||
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On June 18 2017 23:01 sicklucker wrote: People just thought xata was more mafia then me. Everyone thought I was mafia. Thanks xata you won town the game "Everyone thought you were mafia"? I called you top town mate. I even followed your vote instantly on annul. | ||
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On June 18 2017 23:02 disformation wrote: yes. next lynch should be between es, grack, rels Sigh, and we're going to have another boring day  . | ||
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On June 18 2017 23:03 sicklucker wrote: sure you did you also started calling me mafia all day asshole Calm it down with the insults bro. | ||
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