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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
May 15 2017 18:41 GMT
#1640
On May 11 2017 05:13 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2017 04:22 fuba wrote:
Prison Break's stuff on sicklucker seems like the best "case" so far. Gonna vote him.

Show nested quote +
On May 11 2017 04:25 fuba wrote:
Aside from that I basically have a bunch of weak town reads that I'll keep to myself unless someone super-wants them.


This is quite bad. If he feels like elaborating on reads why not do it? You do not want to progress the game?
Super bad reasoning blaming rest of the eventualities bad to follow a simple reasoning to sheep a 2 post intro (no disrespect PB i like you ).


Here he's falling for scum bait hook line and sinker he just sees what fuba wrote which is superficially scummy and could simply ask him what his reads are yet the accusation that he's openly not sharing them seems more important to him. Bs argument.

On May 11 2017 05:14 Skynx wrote:
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On May 11 2017 05:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 11 2017 05:05 Skynx wrote:
To be honest I don't even know why I'm chasing this cuz all parties mentioned here are town.

I'll reread others a tiny bit.

Incorrect. Holyflare is not town.

Pls stop, if not people are gona follow HF into mislynching you, then we're gona realise it was grack all along and mislynch him aswell and then blame HF for everything into clean sweep for mafia.


This might probably even be true if all we know is wrong so far cause this guy somehow might have had excellent information and confidence on top tier scum players right in the early game which was already part of my initial case.
Also idk what the point is of telling rayn not to pursue HF like that. Again, contributes to the point that skynx wasn't scumhunting.

On May 11 2017 05:16 Skynx wrote:
Palmar
PB
Grack
HF
rayn


these are in order btw


"These are in order" is another awkward sentence that on top of it doesn't make any sense cause I don't see anywhere how what he says allows him to rank people based on townieness (and what? Ascending, descending?)


On May 11 2017 05:13 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2017 04:22 fuba wrote:
Prison Break's stuff on sicklucker seems like the best "case" so far. Gonna vote him.

Show nested quote +
On May 11 2017 04:25 fuba wrote:
Aside from that I basically have a bunch of weak town reads that I'll keep to myself unless someone super-wants them.


This is quite bad. If he feels like elaborating on reads why not do it? You do not want to progress the game?
Super bad reasoning blaming rest of the eventualities bad to follow a simple reasoning to sheep a 2 post intro (no disrespect PB i like you ).


On May 12 2017 03:40 Skynx wrote:
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On May 11 2017 22:18 Vivax wrote:
Skynx has been more contributive than fuba in darthfoley but in my opinion in the wrong ways. I just don't see how he jumps to conclusions so quickly without a shade of doubt about events and reads. Like his rayn vs Grack thingy and his townread list. Feels to me like he's just getting on the good side of the most active players and doesn't try to fight his TMI in order to not ruffle any feathers. Most of his reads lack explanation and meta wise I have seen him raise good points when he was town, I also have been always able to correctly identify him as town but you will have to take my word for that.

Also, in a nutshell, he hasn't been hunting scum.

This is the best case I think I have and I'm voting accordingly.

I don't really like this since when i was around and posted my reads you were there to respond. My reads haven't changed and no one asked me to expand on them and now you say my reads are weak. Or you're just trying to push my because you've found a few supporters going own on me cuz i haven't been active.

I don't think i have to explain why Palmar is town.
rayn vs hf was mainly straight nonesense for i dunno how many pages while both believing or writing as they have definitely found scum. In a case of tvs to any side, t has no basis to push with confidence unless meta which they didn't let the thread know about while s is taking hell of a risk early on. svs is a stretch and even more of a risk when they could have just sit back after some early chit chat. They both should know whatever reason they are stating doesn't make the other mafia.
Most cases tunneling without basis is tvt in my book, at least for my part i get emotional and tunnel townies all the time but I'm working on that.
Prison Breaks intro was good and he made valid points.
I've already explained Grack. Him and palmar is almost identical to rayn vs hf. Just voting eachother for whatever reason.


Imo its been super easy for scum early on with all these people going after eachother and they can just sit back and relax as town will probably follow one of them and they can just hop in at one point with a shitty reasoning.


Again super shallow read bunch and earlier on while accusing fuba he basically talked smack about a 2 post intro and said fuba was scummy for sheeping it, but when he makes a read on PB,suddenly PBs post is good and he made valid points.

Pretty much the best argument of the bunch so far
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
May 15 2017 18:57 GMT
#1641
On May 12 2017 03:53 Skynx wrote:
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On May 12 2017 03:46 darthfoley wrote:
On May 11 2017 05:19 Skynx wrote:
I also agree that darthfoley's intro is bad from first impression but I'm gona have to go back on that one.


this is the only thing in your entire filter that indicates you think anyone is scum, but you give yourself an out by saying your opinion could change with a second reading.

vivax is right in the sense that I don't see how you've scum hunted at all this game. you claim that mafia is sitting back and relaxing, yet you come in the thread at a very opportune time to defend yourself and not actively participate in anything else that is going on in the thread.

3 out of 5 of your town reads have a possibility of being lynched (Grack, HF, rayn) yet you do nothing to steer the conversation away from them and onto anyone else.

You have a good chance of being mafia

If you give me a chance maybe i can read something else than HF/palmar/rayn/grack and scumhunt?


Ok now DF also catches up to him. He admits that he doesn't have scumreads, okay. They follow shortly afterwards.

On May 12 2017 04:05 Skynx wrote:
I dislike LS and TW less than i dislike sl and fuba.


Pretty much the closest thing to a scumread. 100% based on his previous posts talking about fuba and LS (feeling the need to be consistent and all that). This was more or less second half of D1 already if I'm not mistaken.

On May 11 2017 04:48 Skynx wrote:
I couldn't understand much of rayn vs HF sorry

No one should be having any opinion on LS, TW and Damdred other than very superficial stuff cuz they haven't done anything yet.


This is from earlier. And guess what, almost the entire game TRd LS early on. With one exception: Damdred. And yet Skynx says at one point "nobody should TR LS at this point"; but for example Palmar insta townread him, and skynx didn't care and instead gave Palmar a town cookie without hesitation.
He retracts his scumread on LS in the next post.

On May 12 2017 04:06 Skynx wrote:
Tbh i retract that, i kinda like LS.


And bam, he shortly afterwards he already forgot that he just unscumread him:

On May 12 2017 04:25 Skynx wrote:
Anyway I'm gona focus on TW, Damdred and LS for a bit now.


Forgets his reads,check.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
May 15 2017 18:58 GMT
#1642
Do I need to go on or? I think skynx will owe me a cookie after this game.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
May 15 2017 19:09 GMT
#1644
On May 12 2017 18:54 Skynx wrote:
I'll give you a cookie at end of the game if you lynch me so keep trying.

Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
May 15 2017 19:14 GMT
#1645
On May 12 2017 04:05 Skynx wrote:
I dislike LS and TW less than i dislike sl and fuba.


SL is scummier than LS?

On May 12 2017 04:25 Skynx wrote:
Anyway I'm gona focus on TW, Damdred and LS for a bit now.


Where is SL?

On May 12 2017 05:03 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2017 05:01 Tumblewood wrote:
rayn, grack, ls, probably prison break are all town. Palmar Hf vivax sl not worth lynching d1 for various reasons. anyone else I would at least consider today. but fuba promised to do stuff and didn't so I am sticking on him unless you try to go lynch like grack

Why are we not lynching sl and vivax?


SL is scum? Why? Where did it happen?

On May 12 2017 05:08 Skynx wrote:
Just to give it out there

Palmar
PB
SL


HF
rayn
Grack


TW
DF


Damdred
Vivax


lynch fuba or ls if nothing better is availabe


Oh now he's town again? Interesting.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
May 15 2017 19:17 GMT
#1646
This is skynxs first scum game if you are town you can literally just read him and know what a textbook scum looks like lmao. Maybe you'll learn something you clearly have to
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
May 15 2017 20:17 GMT
#1655
Eh idk about rayn I've seen him fake rage and quit as scum in previous games. His read on me is really outlandish and static so I'm not that sure I can call him town all things considered. I was expecting some kind of comeback but he seems to be pretty comfy while playing that card and not achieving anything or reconsidering.

Definitely going to be paranoid about him for the rest of the game if he doesn't change that attitude when and if we lynch a scum
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
May 15 2017 20:19 GMT
#1657
Palmars posts have been really good this night btw I think he might just be town with lowered standards for himself so don't just decide that he's scum for doing less than usual in the past days. That's a bad reason on its own.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
May 15 2017 20:21 GMT
#1658
On May 16 2017 05:18 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2017 04:59 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 16 2017 04:58 Grackaroni wrote:
On May 16 2017 04:56 LightningStrike wrote:
Pretty good case Vivax might just sheep it honestly. Didn't notice that stuff till you pointed it out.
On May 16 2017 04:54 Grackaroni wrote:
I'm very close to going in to full troll mode.

Why?

I don't know the game just feels like too much of a shit show and I don't know what is going on.

Why not read the case on Skynx by Vivax and tell us your thoughts on it?

The things Skynx said about PB that were highlighted in red seem pretty scummy. A lot of other things seem like bad reading comprehension.


No cause he pretends to have a read on SL for being afk at best which switches between town and scum at some point and a boatload of other things you would surely notice if you tried.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
May 15 2017 20:22 GMT
#1659
But tbh if he's scum he might just have spewed you town Grack.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
May 15 2017 20:30 GMT
#1665
On May 16 2017 05:25 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2017 05:22 Vivax wrote:
But tbh if he's scum he might just have spewed you town Grack.

Because i said he's not my partner?


No cause early game there was a good bit of pressure on Grack and most were suspicious of the things he was pulling and yet you effortlessly called him town cause he got angry at rayn or something. Considering it came from the mindset of a scum (hope you are) who was playing safe calling I think all active players town, you should have felt more compelled to at least throw a bit of your own suspicion on him to not stick out later.

My 2 c at least
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
May 15 2017 20:47 GMT
#1680
On May 16 2017 05:45 Holyflare wrote:
wasn't palmar like your top town read btw? why was he your check?


Thinking that as well, also waiting to see if there's a cc before even doing anything.
If a scum expects to be lynched and knows there's a cop in the setup ofc he will do a fakeclaim so I'm not 100% convinced yet.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
May 16 2017 08:28 GMT
#1750
I was kind of expecting (hoping) someone else to cc but since TW is the only one and he's the scum checked one I think I have to admit I was scumreading the cop

Feelsbadman
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
May 16 2017 08:35 GMT
#1751
You should have lynched the cop with me yesterday mafia I'm disappointed in you missing out on the opportunity cause you felt so comfy just sitting on fuba. Tsk Tsk.

Either way a scum TW does look bad for HF considering the rayn kill (scumreading Palmar, me, LS), so also far away from catching him. Looks like a mindfuck kill considering he was being afk on purpose. Maybe there's a tiny tiny chance that it was Palmars modkill.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
May 16 2017 09:38 GMT
#1765
Assuming Skynx is the cop I don't trust his N1 check to be necessarily correct, Palmar would absolutely go for a defensive frame there to appear town to cop checks. He was more poker faced during the early game than he is now.

And leaving HF alive is banking on town paranoia to lynch him last. Done it myself as scum.

If Skynx isn't cop and you are cop and not ccing you are gamethrowing so safe to assume it's real after everyone has posted.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
May 16 2017 09:39 GMT
#1766
I think LS and Grack are spewed town by tumble
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
May 16 2017 10:11 GMT
#1769
On May 16 2017 19:05 Holyflare wrote:
I have a feeling skynx isn't the cop :p


Why tho real cop should absolutely come out in this scenario.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
May 16 2017 10:17 GMT
#1770
By now Skynx is 100 % cop if you don't cc it HF. As you are pretty much the only person doubting it.

TWs cc is too convenient as he is the target.That would require a massive amount of luck from Skynx to fake cop check the cop of all people.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
May 16 2017 11:40 GMT
#1774
On May 15 2017 04:19 Tumblewood wrote:
the trouble here is that the only active players are the ones that are probably scum. and also ls


On May 15 2017 04:27 Tumblewood wrote:
why the fuck does everyone want to lynch ls? he is innocent puppy x3000


zzz same as skynx with his SL read.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
May 16 2017 13:59 GMT
#1777
If my townread on TW is anything like the townread on PB then he must be mafia
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