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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
May 15 2017 10:59 GMT
#1521
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Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
May 15 2017 11:00 GMT
#1522
On May 15 2017 19:45 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2017 19:32 Holyflare wrote:
Was skynx on fuba?


11 minutes for a yes/no question that's verified by a glance at one votecount?

he maf, but he's gonna lynch other maf with us so shssshhh
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
May 15 2017 11:00 GMT
#1523
TW and sl look super bad btw
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
May 15 2017 11:01 GMT
#1524
grack, tw, hf, sl are probably 2-3 mafia
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
May 15 2017 11:01 GMT
#1525
rayn is... gone with the wind?
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
May 15 2017 11:03 GMT
#1526
mafia keep killing my townreads and town keeps helping them.

herp derp
Computer says mafia
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
May 15 2017 11:05 GMT
#1527
Just let it go Vivax. I have like no effect in this game, and we have been lynching townies with 3-3 votes max, no towncircle at all, does that tell you Skynx is mafia? No, prolly 2-3 of those usual town leaders if not all is mafia.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
May 15 2017 11:06 GMT
#1528
My updated team: Grack, TW, HF

Off chance of sl being in there instead lf Grack/TW
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
May 15 2017 11:06 GMT
#1529
Skynx it is time for skynx magic to happen you know.

You need to write me an essay on who is mafia soon enough.
Computer says mafia
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
May 15 2017 11:09 GMT
#1530
Man im a bad player. If i can't pick up the game early on im just lost. Or i save ppl as medic.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22418 Posts
May 15 2017 11:11 GMT
#1531
On May 15 2017 20:05 Skynx wrote:
Just let it go Vivax. I have like no effect in this game, and we have been lynching townies with 3-3 votes max, no towncircle at all, does that tell you Skynx is mafia? No, prolly 2-3 of those usual town leaders if not all is mafia.


Your vote is your effect and you haven't been placing it on your scumread you piled it onto HF instead cause you were expecting fuba to be a mislynch.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
May 15 2017 11:11 GMT
#1532
So I read Skynx filter. I'm torn.

I was hoping to come away with an easy townlean, but meh. The problem is that he has just done so very, very little this game. Even at 6 pages of filter it feels very filled with just questions and small talk. However he did take some rather bold stances in the early game and he has been continually updating people on his gamestate, so maybe he is town.

If anything I would say leave it be for now.
Computer says mafia
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22418 Posts
May 15 2017 11:13 GMT
#1533
On May 15 2017 20:11 Palmar wrote:
So I read Skynx filter. I'm torn.

I was hoping to come away with an easy townlean, but meh. The problem is that he has just done so very, very little this game. Even at 6 pages of filter it feels very filled with just questions and small talk. However he did take some rather bold stances in the early game and he has been continually updating people on his gamestate, so maybe he is town.

If anything I would say leave it be for now.


The early game is what looked awful already during D1.

I guess you are mafia
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
May 15 2017 11:15 GMT
#1534
On May 15 2017 20:11 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2017 20:05 Skynx wrote:
Just let it go Vivax. I have like no effect in this game, and we have been lynching townies with 3-3 votes max, no towncircle at all, does that tell you Skynx is mafia? No, prolly 2-3 of those usual town leaders if not all is mafia.


Your vote is your effect and you haven't been placing it on your scumread you piled it onto HF instead cause you were expecting fuba to be a mislynch.

Lets say im scum, how does that make sense for me to not vote fuba? I mean i was almost getting lynched.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22418 Posts
May 15 2017 11:21 GMT
#1535
On May 15 2017 20:15 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2017 20:11 Vivax wrote:
On May 15 2017 20:05 Skynx wrote:
Just let it go Vivax. I have like no effect in this game, and we have been lynching townies with 3-3 votes max, no towncircle at all, does that tell you Skynx is mafia? No, prolly 2-3 of those usual town leaders if not all is mafia.


Your vote is your effect and you haven't been placing it on your scumread you piled it onto HF instead cause you were expecting fuba to be a mislynch.

Lets say im scum, how does that make sense for me to not vote fuba? I mean i was almost getting lynched.


Am I supposed to explain you your own mindset now? I don't even know why you voted me off in the first place and most of all are the only guy to struggle TRing me. Like a carbon copy of Grack during D1.

Why would you push for everyone to stay on fuba and then vote HF out of the blue???
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
May 15 2017 11:24 GMT
#1536
On May 15 2017 20:13 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2017 20:11 Palmar wrote:
So I read Skynx filter. I'm torn.

I was hoping to come away with an easy townlean, but meh. The problem is that he has just done so very, very little this game. Even at 6 pages of filter it feels very filled with just questions and small talk. However he did take some rather bold stances in the early game and he has been continually updating people on his gamestate, so maybe he is town.

If anything I would say leave it be for now.


The early game is what looked awful already during D1.

I guess you are mafia

See I disagree, but I may be biased because he is talking about me. This:

On May 11 2017 04:46 Skynx wrote:
Facts:
Palmar is town but Palmar vote on Grack is bad cuz Grack is town, his vote on Palmar is also bad.

I like this initially, it was exactly what i was feeling going through the thread:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2017 18:06 Palmar wrote:
On May 10 2017 17:40 Grackaroni wrote:
On May 10 2017 17:34 Palmar wrote:
On May 10 2017 16:05 Grackaroni wrote:
On May 10 2017 16:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 10 2017 15:38 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't mean it as an attack. I just found it interesting that you called all of the people town but us and we had kind of a similar response to it.

So what's interesting in that? What are your conclusions?

My conclusion is that Rayn is in a rage induced tunnel.

If you think he is town why are you pestering him?

How did I pester him!? I was a perfect gentleman.

You're still at it, you literally just said something is fishy about some of his posts.

This could be just a poor choice of words by you, but if you believe that "Rayn is in a rage induced tunnel", rayn is 100% town to you 100% of the time. Mafia does not go into rage induced tunnels. They might fake it, and there is usually evidence they are faking it.

It's especially unlikely someone whose play is as refined as rayn's (well, as refined as a bludgeon can be) would go on a tilt as scum.

So either you must say that he's indeed NOT on a rage induced tunnel, but rather attempting to play one, or that he's town. There is no world where rayn is scum in a rage induced tunnel.

Also I don't like this pseudo-alliance-making.


So at this point Grack looks bad, but at some point they just become angry at eachother and decide that the other is mafia.

They are obviously both town.


Is what I'm referencing. It feels unlikely that Skynx would put himself in the middle of this as mafia, and that his stance would be so strong. Like he seems absolutely goddamn certain that he is right and we are wrong. It feels like that if he is mafia and this is true he would not come out so strong because he'd be worried about being accused of TMI, and if he is mafia and Grack is mafia, it seems unlikely that he'd come out so strong defending his scumbuddy.

The other part (and it includes some of the strong stances part), is that he has gone out of his way to make sure everyone knows what he is thinking this game:

On May 11 2017 05:16 Skynx wrote:
Palmar
PB
Grack
HF
rayn


these are in order btw


On May 12 2017 05:08 Skynx wrote:
Just to give it out there

Palmar
PB
SL


HF
rayn
Grack


TW
DF


Damdred
Vivax


lynch fuba or sl if nothing better is availabe


etc.

I know list posts are super easy to make, but I just don't get the feeling he's making them just to post, but rather he actually cares that we know what he's thinking.

However, I'm not ready to commit to a townread based on what I said about him really not doing all that much.
Computer says mafia
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 15 2017 11:24 GMT
#1537
On May 15 2017 20:15 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2017 20:11 Vivax wrote:
On May 15 2017 20:05 Skynx wrote:
Just let it go Vivax. I have like no effect in this game, and we have been lynching townies with 3-3 votes max, no towncircle at all, does that tell you Skynx is mafia? No, prolly 2-3 of those usual town leaders if not all is mafia.


Your vote is your effect and you haven't been placing it on your scumread you piled it onto HF instead cause you were expecting fuba to be a mislynch.

Lets say im scum, how does that make sense for me to not vote fuba? I mean i was almost getting lynched.

On May 15 2017 20:06 Skynx wrote:
My updated team: Grack, TW, HF

Off chance of sl being in there instead lf Grack/TW


Ummmmmmmmm hi
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
May 15 2017 11:25 GMT
#1538
On May 15 2017 20:15 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2017 20:11 Vivax wrote:
On May 15 2017 20:05 Skynx wrote:
Just let it go Vivax. I have like no effect in this game, and we have been lynching townies with 3-3 votes max, no towncircle at all, does that tell you Skynx is mafia? No, prolly 2-3 of those usual town leaders if not all is mafia.


Your vote is your effect and you haven't been placing it on your scumread you piled it onto HF instead cause you were expecting fuba to be a mislynch.

Lets say im scum, how does that make sense for me to not vote fuba? I mean i was almost getting lynched.

this is a terrible defense...
Computer says mafia
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 15 2017 11:26 GMT
#1539
He makes the defence and calls me mafia despite me defending fuba and not voting fuba.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22418 Posts
May 15 2017 11:36 GMT
#1540
Well his argument is that as scum his vote purely for his own survival would have been better placed on fuba cause he already had the most votes.

But the initial argument is that he scumread fuba and wanted him lynched pretty badly and he actually ended up placing it on HF during that wifom minute. So that makes it look like he simply didn't care who got lynched there.

Also here's a recap for what I wrote during D1 which imho are all pretty good scumtells.

For Palmar apparently it's the opposite and him being so confident isn't scummy cause he would be afraid of showing TMI. He's saying that cause he's displaying TMI, but Palmar says he isn't mafia cause as mafia he would think that he would be displaying TMI, so according to Palmar no mafia ever shows TMI cause they never make mistakes.

+ Show Spoiler +

On May 11 2017 19:26 Vivax wrote:
Is skynx a mafia god or just mafia? He's confident AF into townreads on good scum players without the big posts that usually accompany them when he's town.


On May 11 2017 22:18 Vivax wrote:
Skynx has been more contributive than fuba in darthfoley but in my opinion in the wrong ways. I just don't see how he jumps to conclusions so quickly without a shade of doubt about events and reads. Like his rayn vs Grack thingy and his townread list. Feels to me like he's just getting on the good side of the most active players and doesn't try to fight his TMI in order to not ruffle any feathers. Most of his reads lack explanation and meta wise I have seen him raise good points when he was town, I also have been always able to correctly identify him as town but you will have to take my word for that.

Also, in a nutshell, he hasn't been hunting scum.

This is the best case I think I have and I'm voting accordingly.


On May 11 2017 22:24 Vivax wrote:
I was thinking of lynching the least contributive like df, fuba. Then realized that skynx has been sort of more contributive than them. But then I also realized that he has been the scum sort of contributive, polished and too correct and sort of laid back (doesn't apply to HF when he's scum) and all that stuff came to mind.

It might not be super convincing to you cause maybe you're tunneled on someone in a feud, but I think that in the process of yelling at each other you tend to forget what to really look for in scum. I'm sort of sure that skynx is scum for the reasons in the post above.



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