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Prison Break
Profile Joined April 2017
326 Posts
May 21 2017 20:49 GMT
#2611
I think LS or grack is the correct lynch, leaning LS
Prison Break
Profile Joined April 2017
326 Posts
May 22 2017 16:25 GMT
#2633
I'll only go with grack if no one wants LS
Prison Break
Profile Joined April 2017
326 Posts
May 23 2017 14:51 GMT
#2663
Yea LightningStrike this just seems like you want to keep your options open. Like with your post you could basically go for anyone (today + tomorrow). Also saying someone is "town but not nightkilled" is a beyond stupid argument for a reason you acknowledged yourself in the same post.. cop and doc claims.It seems like you're stretching to set up 2 mislynches and you don't want to rule out any opportunity yet in case it backfires.
Prison Break
Profile Joined April 2017
326 Posts
May 23 2017 17:16 GMT
#2667
what, are you giving up?
Prison Break
Profile Joined April 2017
326 Posts
May 23 2017 19:32 GMT
#2756
On May 24 2017 03:00 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2017 02:59 Grackaroni wrote:
Is nobody else considering PB scum?

I am but I don't have a solid case on it and he OMGUS his vote on me when I mention there still a chance he's scum.


Misrepresentation of what's happening. Read today. I wanted to lynch you or Grack,leaning you. sicklurker adviced me to vote grack. I said I would only go with it if no one wanted you. Which sicklurker assured me. Then palmar voted you, so sicklurkers statement that no one else wanted you, is false. Then I voted you. If anything, you OMGUS me.
Prison Break
Profile Joined April 2017
326 Posts
May 23 2017 19:36 GMT
#2757
On May 24 2017 02:35 Grackaroni wrote:
PB why did you dislike HF during the start of the game? I can't quite follow it in your filter but in the first few pages you consistently have SL as #1 and HF #2 scum.


Combination of a few things.

I did post an analysis of my thought process and how the lynches were decided. I didn't think they seemed scummy. Holyflare came in late with the bandwagon vote which made him look bad. At the moment his vote + my townread on others meant that holyflare and sicklurker were most likely scum, because holyflare had 2 votes as well at some point, and it was likely that scum was steering attention away from themselves. Then later on, it seemed like everytime I wanted to push sicklurker or HF, someone would come in and steer attention away, and everytime I mentioned sicklurker, HF would come in and continuously say I should look elsewhere, etc. which I took as soft-defending sicklurker, which reinforced my idea of them being a team together.

I could go into more detail if you want, but what's important now is that I don't think sicklurker is scum, simply because he hard pushed the HF lynch. I still think his day 1/2 were scummy, but I rule him out purely based on HF's flip, so his day 1/2 doesn't really matter anymore.
Prison Break
Profile Joined April 2017
326 Posts
May 23 2017 19:55 GMT
#2760
I think I win as long as we're not lynching palmar SL personally, but the difference between Grack and LS, here, Grack seems to actually want to find out my alignment. I like that. He asks questions, looks into my posts, and is doing analysis and hunting for the last scum. LS, however, jumps on this immediately and goes to vote me, uses the opportunity to suggest I was "OMGUS-voting" him by voting me back immediately, and he was so trigger happy that he didn't even read my posts today: because I had stated like 10x why LS should be the lynch. And it's not like I'm tunneling you this game, early on I thought your posts were townlike, but as the game has developed your posts have become worse and worse and you either don't care or can't handle the pressure anymore at this point. Your posts are not coherent and they don't make sense. You have no case against me, you admit this much, yet you're bandwagoning Grack on the vote on me. Grack, while he also doesn't have a case, doesn't claim he has one either, he's honest in his intention of investigating me.

Really I think lightningstrike's response here is terrible but if people want a Grack lynch I'll go with it. I think we won't lose as long as we don't lynch palmar. HF - Palmar scumteam seems almost as bad as a SL - HF scumteam, I don't understand how SL is so convinced palmar is scum.

SL - why are you so damn convinced? You told me to stop tunneling you, and I did (although it took a HF flip for me to realize it), maybe it's time for you to stop tunneling palmar now.

And if Palmar was scum, he could have teamed up with Grack and LS to lynch me as well, instead he chose to defend me, which gives him town points. Unlike LS who jumps on ASAP.
Prison Break
Profile Joined April 2017
326 Posts
May 23 2017 19:56 GMT
#2761
On May 24 2017 04:47 LightningStrike wrote:
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On May 24 2017 04:32 Prison Break wrote:
On May 24 2017 03:00 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 24 2017 02:59 Grackaroni wrote:
Is nobody else considering PB scum?

I am but I don't have a solid case on it and he OMGUS his vote on me when I mention there still a chance he's scum.


Misrepresentation of what's happening. Read today. I wanted to lynch you or Grack,leaning you. sicklurker adviced me to vote grack. I said I would only go with it if no one wanted you. Which sicklurker assured me. Then palmar voted you, so sicklurkers statement that no one else wanted you, is false. Then I voted you. If anything, you OMGUS me.

Ugh it very opportunistic to me?


Read my posts for today please, and the reason I unvoted you. I had my vote on you and stated intent to lynch you today. I only unvoted - voted again because of whether or not other people wanted you as well, because I can't singlehandedly lynch you, and we need to form a strong vote block today.
Prison Break
Profile Joined April 2017
326 Posts
May 23 2017 19:57 GMT
#2762
You act like I voted you because you suspected me - and act like I didn't want to lynch you prior to it at all

Now THAT is suspicious
Prison Break
Profile Joined April 2017
326 Posts
May 23 2017 19:58 GMT
#2763
On May 24 2017 04:48 LightningStrike wrote:
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On May 24 2017 04:05 Palmar wrote:
LS, can you explain, no matter how bad your explanation is, why you think I'm more likely to be mafia than Grack?

Show nested quote +
On May 23 2017 23:10 LightningStrike wrote:
I rather lynch Palmar over Grack but I don't like both of those lynches fo rmy stated reasons but if Ihad to choose PAlmar of Grack I rather lynch Palmar due to the possiblity he could of been framed. It would PB but only because he wasn't really suspected and thoguht be very townie yet he hasn't died before the claim stuff. I think this game is continueing because he knows he got this game in the pocket.

That and TW did spew Grack as town as well as spewing me town.


And if you were scum with him, what stops you from telling him to spew you town?

You're an experienced player, so you could easily tell him to do this, and then you could use it to your advantage as you're doing now.
Prison Break
Profile Joined April 2017
326 Posts
May 23 2017 21:14 GMT
#2797
On May 24 2017 06:07 LightningStrike wrote:
PB why you didn't switch your vote to Grack and instead kept your vote on me without trying to push for my lynch?


I explained why I think you are scum over Grack already. Grack wanted to find out my alignment but you hopped on. I prefer to vote scum over town, and I think you have a bigger chance of being scum so I vote you. I did push you and defend palmar multiple times today and I asked sicklurker why he was so convinced. I'm not a god, I can't stop a lynch if 3 people are set on it. I think you're the last scum.
Prison Break
Profile Joined April 2017
326 Posts
May 23 2017 21:18 GMT
#2802
On May 24 2017 06:16 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2017 06:14 Prison Break wrote:
On May 24 2017 06:07 LightningStrike wrote:
PB why you didn't switch your vote to Grack and instead kept your vote on me without trying to push for my lynch?


I explained why I think you are scum over Grack already. Grack wanted to find out my alignment but you hopped on. I prefer to vote scum over town, and I think you have a bigger chance of being scum so I vote you. I did push you and defend palmar multiple times today and I asked sicklurker why he was so convinced. I'm not a god, I can't stop a lynch if 3 people are set on it. I think you're the last scum.

You know you wasted your vote by not trying to get a 2nd wagon on Grack or not being on Palmar?


I wasted my vote? Lol I voted you, then voted Grack when someone voted him, voted you again when someone voted you. But everyone kept tunneling palmar and the majority of votes were on him. And now you try to blame me for it lol.
Prison Break
Profile Joined April 2017
326 Posts
May 23 2017 21:23 GMT
#2808
On May 24 2017 06:19 LightningStrike wrote:
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On May 24 2017 06:18 Prison Break wrote:
On May 24 2017 06:16 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 24 2017 06:14 Prison Break wrote:
On May 24 2017 06:07 LightningStrike wrote:
PB why you didn't switch your vote to Grack and instead kept your vote on me without trying to push for my lynch?


I explained why I think you are scum over Grack already. Grack wanted to find out my alignment but you hopped on. I prefer to vote scum over town, and I think you have a bigger chance of being scum so I vote you. I did push you and defend palmar multiple times today and I asked sicklurker why he was so convinced. I'm not a god, I can't stop a lynch if 3 people are set on it. I think you're the last scum.

You know you wasted your vote by not trying to get a 2nd wagon on Grack or not being on Palmar?


I wasted my vote? Lol I voted you, then voted Grack when someone voted him, voted you again when someone voted you. But everyone kept tunneling palmar and the majority of votes were on him. And now you try to blame me for it lol.

Dude you knew I was open on a potential grack lynch yet you didn't try to vote him EoD why you think I tried to ask sicklucker if he was here?


Alright but let's say you're mafia. And you want to kill Grack over Palmar. Why should I let you?

I know everyone wants Palmar dead so if Grack flips town, and Palmar goes next, you win.

So I am not going to cooperate with my #1 scumread

How about you convince me you're town before I start cooperating votes with you? Your plan only makes sense if I assume you are town, which is something I did not assume, and still don't assume.

I'm not tunneled on you, but I think you look worse than Grack, and I think SL looks the best.
Prison Break
Profile Joined April 2017
326 Posts
May 23 2017 21:31 GMT
#2812
On May 24 2017 06:24 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2017 06:23 Prison Break wrote:
On May 24 2017 06:19 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 24 2017 06:18 Prison Break wrote:
On May 24 2017 06:16 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 24 2017 06:14 Prison Break wrote:
On May 24 2017 06:07 LightningStrike wrote:
PB why you didn't switch your vote to Grack and instead kept your vote on me without trying to push for my lynch?


I explained why I think you are scum over Grack already. Grack wanted to find out my alignment but you hopped on. I prefer to vote scum over town, and I think you have a bigger chance of being scum so I vote you. I did push you and defend palmar multiple times today and I asked sicklurker why he was so convinced. I'm not a god, I can't stop a lynch if 3 people are set on it. I think you're the last scum.

You know you wasted your vote by not trying to get a 2nd wagon on Grack or not being on Palmar?


I wasted my vote? Lol I voted you, then voted Grack when someone voted him, voted you again when someone voted you. But everyone kept tunneling palmar and the majority of votes were on him. And now you try to blame me for it lol.

Dude you knew I was open on a potential grack lynch yet you didn't try to vote him EoD why you think I tried to ask sicklucker if he was here?


Alright but let's say you're mafia. And you want to kill Grack over Palmar. Why should I let you?

I know everyone wants Palmar dead so if Grack flips town, and Palmar goes next, you win.

So I am not going to cooperate with my #1 scumread

How about you convince me you're town before I start cooperating votes with you? Your plan only makes sense if I assume you are town, which is something I did not assume, and still don't assume.

I'm not tunneled on you, but I think you look worse than Grack, and I think SL looks the best.

If you thought Palmar was town why not attempt to convince me to switch votes to Grack at that time even if you thought I was scum?


Because I prefer people kill Palmar then you, over killing Grack then Palmar, because you're a higher scumread for me than grack is

What part is hard to understand? I have a question for you as well: why vote someone you didn't want to lynch. I know you're going to blame me or sicklurker for not being around but you could've coordinated with Palmar and you could've made your intentions clear earlier. I made my intentions clear during the entire day, but only last moment do you want to switch, and most of your arguments are made after Palmars flip, it's like you're overcompensating and making up excuses for being on the vote
Prison Break
Profile Joined April 2017
326 Posts
May 24 2017 21:53 GMT
#2822
Alright so here's my thought process. I made it kind of clear that I'd lynch lightningstrike today yesterday. i Showed no hints that I could be persuaded in lynching anyone else, and my stubbornness this game hasn't gone unnoticed to scum, so here's my interpretation of the night:

If Lightning Strike is scum -> he would nightkill me, and try to convince sicklurker that Grack is scum.

If Grack was scum -> he'd leave me alive, most likely.

So this points towards Grack being more likely scum. But could be WIFOM as well. But if LightningStrike were scum, would he really nightkill sicklurker over me? I don't think that makes sense at all, which is mainly what's pointing me towards Grack right now.
Prison Break
Profile Joined April 2017
326 Posts
May 24 2017 21:55 GMT
#2823
LightningStrike, who are you leaning towards being scum?

Grackaroni, what are your thoughts?
Prison Break
Profile Joined April 2017
326 Posts
May 24 2017 22:57 GMT
#2825
On May 24 2017 06:34 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2017 06:22 sicklucker wrote:
On May 24 2017 06:14 Grackaroni wrote:
It might actually be SL btw.


thats it boy keep your nk options open

If you're mafia can you NK me please?


This is a bit awkward. Trying to distance from the nightkill?

Why would you want to be nightkilled? Shows to be not invested in this game at all, couldn't care less. Also, where are you now? If I had to decide right now my vote would be on you.
Prison Break
Profile Joined April 2017
326 Posts
May 25 2017 02:58 GMT
#2829
Well too late to change that
Prison Break
Profile Joined April 2017
326 Posts
May 25 2017 04:54 GMT
#2831
Yea I agree with lightningstrike which is why I think it has to be grack tbh

Like no way lightning would leave me alive after I stated intent to kill him (and sicklurker stated no intent at all)
Prison Break
Profile Joined April 2017
326 Posts
May 25 2017 18:59 GMT
#2839
If LightningStrike is scum then he's some next-level psycho for leaving me alive and gambling on me breaking my tunnel, I can't take those odds as I showed no hint that I would ever vote someone else yesterday, so I vote grack. If I'm wrong, well played.
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