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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 26 2017 22:09 GMT
#2961
and youre not supposed to be bad.
table for two on a tv tray
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 26 2017 22:09 GMT
#2962
I thought I was super easy to figure out this game tbh. I had no drive or passion to lynch anyone for good reasons and didn't even look at 3/4 of the game.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 26 2017 22:10 GMT
#2963
On May 27 2017 07:09 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2017 07:05 Palmar wrote:
And yeah, I want to see PB as town.

I mentioned at some point this game how constructed his posts were, and how little he actually posted. But it's hard to hang someone based on that when it just might be what he always does.

He also made a pretty crucial vote on HF on day 2, which was a good judgement of the gamestate at the time. I really hoped I could get HF lynched there but it wasn't gonna happen.

But as we saw in lylo, the real problem is that a bunch of townies don't try to win. How can lylo be so inactive? The game died when I got lynched.


Pretty much. PB had crumbs trailing back to HF for sure, but I agree with your analysis overall. Between Rayn rage quitting and many town just not giving a shit, town was really fucked.

Sad I died early, I wanted to play.

You were just as fuckface as i was so fuck you for reals.
Now i know why you are "hard to lynch".
table for two on a tv tray
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 26 2017 22:11 GMT
#2964
also from obs:


I didn't like this setup one bit tbh. I think it's the semi open nature of it. No counter play to being checked and those roles also know the setup. The problem is you have no other setup with a cop or a medic in like other semi open games so you can't fake claim and look like you're in another setup.

Even closed I wouldn't mind this setup either. But oh well what are you gonna do.


I still stand by this. I don't think it was a very balanced setup, even with the victory.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 26 2017 22:12 GMT
#2965
DF posts stand up nice guy comment... why you have to devolve it?
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 26 2017 22:12 GMT
#2966
On May 27 2017 07:09 Holyflare wrote:
I thought I was super easy to figure out this game tbh. I had no drive or passion to lynch anyone for good reasons and didn't even look at 3/4 of the game.

You also sounded really, really weird. If you had been anyone else I would've been on your ass before day 2. I talked a bit about your choice of words etc.

But you do have the ability of building an insurmountable wall of filter pages that discourages people from actively looking into you. I know I never read your filter this game (I probably read only about half of the game).
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 26 2017 22:12 GMT
#2967
And yeah, sucks to lose Damdred and DF so early.
Computer says mafia
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 26 2017 22:12 GMT
#2968
yeh I super just wanted to be town
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
May 26 2017 22:12 GMT
#2969
On May 11 2017 17:08 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2017 16:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 11 2017 07:04 Holyflare wrote:
DF says you have no backbone and aren't actually fighting, which is true because you were pointlessly submissive and not actually determining his alignment.

And this is a completely horrible conclusion towards a conversation where Grackaroni explains his thought process to me because when you do that (explaining), you are naturally not attacking the other player since that's not what you are doing at the time. Like how fucking hard that is for people to understand....


Grackaroni, famed for attacking players that call him mafia relentlessly explains his thought process and nothing more despite other people calling that target mafia too.

Colour me surprised that you misrepresent the argument again.

I'm on to you HF. You managed to avoid getting in a shit fight with me this game by not bothering to try to lynch me.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 26 2017 22:13 GMT
#2970
i do what i want
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
May 26 2017 22:14 GMT
#2971
On May 27 2017 07:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2017 07:09 darthfoley wrote:
On May 27 2017 07:05 Palmar wrote:
And yeah, I want to see PB as town.

I mentioned at some point this game how constructed his posts were, and how little he actually posted. But it's hard to hang someone based on that when it just might be what he always does.

He also made a pretty crucial vote on HF on day 2, which was a good judgement of the gamestate at the time. I really hoped I could get HF lynched there but it wasn't gonna happen.

But as we saw in lylo, the real problem is that a bunch of townies don't try to win. How can lylo be so inactive? The game died when I got lynched.


Pretty much. PB had crumbs trailing back to HF for sure, but I agree with your analysis overall. Between Rayn rage quitting and many town just not giving a shit, town was really fucked.

Sad I died early, I wanted to play.

You were just as fuckface as i was so fuck you for reals.
Now i know why you are "hard to lynch".


Not sure what this means but I only got annoyed with you because your case on me wasn't good and you stayed tunneled on it way too long for no reason
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 26 2017 22:14 GMT
#2972
On May 27 2017 07:11 Holyflare wrote:
also from obs:

Show nested quote +

I didn't like this setup one bit tbh. I think it's the semi open nature of it. No counter play to being checked and those roles also know the setup. The problem is you have no other setup with a cop or a medic in like other semi open games so you can't fake claim and look like you're in another setup.

Even closed I wouldn't mind this setup either. But oh well what are you gonna do.


I still stand by this. I don't think it was a very balanced setup, even with the victory.

It's probably slightly town favored but also just hilariously swingy. Generally the more roles you add the more swingy the setup becomes. Cop, Doc, Framer and Roleblocker are four very, very strong roles, and good use of any of them can swing the game very hard in one direction or the other.

Computer says mafia
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 26 2017 22:15 GMT
#2973
I don't mind the swing, I just like to be able to have some semblance of counter play to a claim.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 26 2017 22:16 GMT
#2974
maybe I just crave all vanilla games
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 26 2017 22:16 GMT
#2975
Like I know this town was definitely not gonna get owned by a framer, to the point of throwing the game out of fear of that scenario, but in general, one successful frame can basically end the game for town. It's why I generally prefer to put in reliable, but weaker cops (like parity or odd/even night or limited use etc).
Computer says mafia
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
May 26 2017 22:16 GMT
#2976
Also thanks for the backup HF, probably saved me from being lynched + you pocketed me
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 26 2017 22:17 GMT
#2977
I just wanted damdred dead so he couldn't figure me out later and it was an easy way to pocket + lynch some random towny not talking
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 26 2017 22:17 GMT
#2978
On May 27 2017 07:15 Holyflare wrote:
I don't mind the swing, I just like to be able to have some semblance of counter play to a claim.

well just like in any other "follow the cop" setup (like i'm a cop you idiot) if you want to counter claims you go to a claim war and win it. It's hard to have the confidence to do it but still.
Computer says mafia
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
May 26 2017 22:17 GMT
#2979
On May 27 2017 07:16 Palmar wrote:
Like I know this town was definitely not gonna get owned by a framer, to the point of throwing the game out of fear of that scenario, but in general, one successful frame can basically end the game for town. It's why I generally prefer to put in reliable, but weaker cops (like parity or odd/even night or limited use etc).


Parity cop is 100% better imo. Allows for each day to be played out a lot better if there's opposite cheeks
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 26 2017 22:19 GMT
#2980
On May 27 2017 07:17 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2017 07:15 Holyflare wrote:
I don't mind the swing, I just like to be able to have some semblance of counter play to a claim.

well just like in any other "follow the cop" setup (like i'm a cop you idiot) if you want to counter claims you go to a claim war and win it. It's hard to have the confidence to do it but still.


yeh but in this game since there's no other setup with a cop or a medic in it you have to claim the same role or the other one in the game and just try for a trade

boring

at least with another setup in the list with the same role in it you can fake you're the other role and make it semi-believable


I think I just hate semi-open setups where some people in town know what's going on
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