SL will see the light he just awoke from his slumber and needs to regain his senses.
He really just needs to understand that HF or Palmar have to die today.
Technically HF and Palmar but one at a time. And he can't achieve that without voting with Grack and LS, and that means what for their alignment?

We don't necessarily need PBs vote.
HF going for Grack and him first should already ring all alarm bells tho. There's no way town HF still believes that Palmar is town at this point.

Vivax

22088 Posts

May 18 2017 23:16 GMT

#2128

On May 19 2017 08:07 LightningStrike wrote:

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So in other words you think Holyflare is Unholyflare this game?
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Tha tsi holyflare's scum nickname incase you didn't know.

Almost guaranteed given he didn't insta unclaim when the night was over. He forced the real medic, aka me, to claim. I'm not letting him run around with a confirmed town sign on his head and decide the lynch.
Grack did it correctly as he dropped the act instantly once he didn't die.

Worst that can happen today isn't even that he claims it again, it's that we don't get SL and PB to vote him or Palmar. If HF claims medic again we lynch him and he flips scum.

Vivax

22088 Posts

May 19 2017 10:33 GMT

#2193

You or HF die today, no one else. It's also bad that you're suggesting a SL lynch given the attitude towards your lynch he displayed yesterday. You're not taking that into account at all and still keeping your options open for almost all reads as seen in your list post during the night.

Vivax

22088 Posts

May 19 2017 10:44 GMT

#2197

On May 19 2017 19:42 Holyflare wrote:

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This is already enough of a case for me to want to kill him though.

You're not telling me he's been trying to hop on anyone he can when I had to stick around and try to convince him that LS was town and that he was looking at TWs posts the wrong way.

It's a case you could have made for Grack and LS maybe but SL is exactly not the guy who just hopped onto anyone, he's the one who played hard to get

Vivax

22088 Posts

May 19 2017 10:51 GMT

#2198

And when you both suggested in unison that SL slipped during the night when I pointed out he was TRing Palmar it was terrible. It's like you both were suggesting that if I made a case on SL for it you'd sheep it but you weren't going to make one for yourselves. Felt like I was being baited into scumreading him for a simple thing I wanted to point out that didn't seem to make sense.

HF went from pretending to be enthusiastic about a Palmar lynch to being his greatest defender, gradually.

Vivax

22088 Posts

May 19 2017 10:52 GMT

#2199

It's hard to believe you both simply aren't confident into having the solution already and even harder to believe that it wouldn't involve you both trying to kill each other at this point, if town.

Vivax

22088 Posts

May 19 2017 10:54 GMT

#2202

On May 19 2017 03:23 Vivax wrote:

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You're kinda townreading Palmar here?

On May 19 2017 03:31 Palmar wrote:

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much excite

On May 19 2017 03:31 Holyflare wrote:
Sl slipped

Vivax

22088 Posts

May 19 2017 10:57 GMT

#2205

On May 19 2017 19:54 Holyflare wrote:
And you think that was a legitimate point that totally wasn't sarcastic?

Same type of argument TW got himself off the hook when I pointed out he was overdramatic about LS entrance.

"Oh it was all just a joke".

Either way this isn't about a single thing that has happened this game, it's the overall picture, the kills we had so far, TWs filter and that you and Palmar are pushing townies and going all in on hard defending each other cause if a greenchecked Scummar dies, you can concede.

Vivax

22088 Posts

May 19 2017 10:58 GMT

#2207

And you're not telling me that you not unclaiming doctor post-night isn't the scummiest shit you've done this game.

Vivax

22088 Posts

May 19 2017 11:02 GMT

#2210

I took all of that into account before the night and played the part accordingly, Couldn't let you get away with this however:

On May 19 2017 05:35 Holyflare wrote:
I guess I'm now confirmed, get rekt

On May 19 2017 05:36 Holyflare wrote:
yes i'm real doctor

Vivax

22088 Posts

May 19 2017 11:07 GMT

#2215

Palmar's reasoning for tdoay is btw:

If I kill you today and you flip mafia, what happens tomorrow?

If the answer to that question is "we lynch SL", I'm perfectly okay with lynching him today, cause...*random arguments*,*for PBS sake*

"HF can be mafia but since we would lynch SL tomorrow if HF is mafia today, we lynch SL today instead, and here are arguments for HF being town: bsbsbs, and also cause I want to be friends with this PB dude"

Vivax

22088 Posts

May 19 2017 11:14 GMT

#2218

On May 19 2017 20:13 Holyflare wrote:
And if you think palmar is mafia then I'm like 1000% town.

You are never even 75% town that's the burden of being a scumgod

Vivax

22088 Posts

May 19 2017 13:40 GMT

#2227

You should have a clear idea of where we are standing and who has to be lynched next in order to win, and you should know that it's HF (from a PoV where you are town,but you are not, so you don't wanna) . Instead you keep playing the insecure, clueless Palmar who keeps saying LS and SL might not be town and that's just not who you are as town.

Town now just has to pull PB and SL together into the same boat and we win. Is SL confirmed town? No. But I guarantee that lynching Palmar, SL and HF wins the game 100 % of the time, where we lynch one of Palmar and HF today and the other two in no particular order.

For me it finally clicked in the head yesterday just before HF claimed doc, for you there is no click to be seen you just keep pretending to be dabbling in the dark.

Vivax

22088 Posts

May 19 2017 13:41 GMT

#2228

Your best bet is to argue that LS and Grack are two mafias sheeping a confirmed town moron

Vivax

22088 Posts

May 19 2017 13:41 GMT

#2229

Or bus HF and then keep harping on your green check

Vivax

22088 Posts

May 19 2017 13:45 GMT

#2232

On May 19 2017 22:45 Palmar wrote:

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It's not insecurity you dumbass, it's desire to get things right.

Explain to me what happens if my scumread on HF is wrong, we lynch him today and he flips town. Explain to me what happens after that.

You get lynched obviously.

Vivax

22088 Posts

May 19 2017 13:54 GMT

#2234

On May 19 2017 22:53 Palmar wrote:

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So town instantly loses if HF is town.

Are you surprised I'm concerned about getting it right?

Explain to me what happens if we don't lynch either of you and you are both mafia

Vivax

22088 Posts

May 19 2017 13:59 GMT