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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 27 2017 18:21 GMT
#3053
Still, like I said, if at all possible I'd give Damdred and disfo a pass for today based on their interactions with Eden.

+ Show Spoiler +
Ultimately I'll defer to rayn's judgment though.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 27 2017 18:24 GMT
#3055
On March 28 2017 03:21 Koshi wrote:
That has been his last 6 days...


Heh. Well, if he did indeed focus on double bussing with Eden during D1-D2, then his play after that would fit with scum motivations (basically laying low and preserving his "safe" status). IF though, it's a big IF. I could perhaps see myself doing that play, as I've done it before, but it's still unlikely to say the least. The biggest obstacle to him being scum is IMO how Eden just left the thread and left his vote on Damdred at a rather critical moment.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 27 2017 18:25 GMT
#3056
That was D1 EOD btw
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 27 2017 18:29 GMT
#3059
On March 28 2017 03:27 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2017 03:24 Xatalos wrote:
On March 28 2017 03:21 Koshi wrote:
That has been his last 6 days...


Heh. Well, if he did indeed focus on double bussing with Eden during D1-D2, then his play after that would fit with scum motivations (basically laying low and preserving his "safe" status). IF though, it's a big IF. I could perhaps see myself doing that play, as I've done it before, but it's still unlikely to say the least. The biggest obstacle to him being scum is IMO how Eden just left the thread and left his vote on Damdred at a rather critical moment.

But Eden obviously wasn't planning on not coming back. See his message. Unless that was WIFOM but that is superlame.


Hm... I'd hardly throw my vote on a strong player on my scumteam who is also GF/RB and in danger of being lynched, getting close to the deadline. Even if he thought he'd be back before DL.

Well, that's a bit WIFOM I'll admit.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 27 2017 18:30 GMT
#3061
(Somewhat strong WIFOM though )
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 27 2017 18:31 GMT
#3062
On March 28 2017 03:29 disformation wrote:
wait. dl is in 3h30 now not 2h30?


AFAIK the deadline changed starting from the next deadline, not this one.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 27 2017 18:31 GMT
#3063
It says 3h30 though
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 27 2017 18:45 GMT
#3067
On March 28 2017 03:45 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2017 02:47 Damdred wrote:
I (bias) think the double bus theory is pretty bad. I do like people defending me though

In any case, Rayn why would you rather lynch disf for instance over say Tumble? Tumble did have a few good posts during the night cycle i'll give you that point.

I just find his early game posts a bit strange still? His read progression on Eden just doesn't jive with me exactly, to hard townreading him, then calling him a red herring and its to easy but still voting him. And his going about the d1 lynch, doesn't want to vote you off but still leaves his vote on you ehhh.

IDK it might be a bit of omgus with his constant on the damdred lynch train but his filter just seems a bit off and to willing to lynch down a list really.

I'm not sure if Koshi is starting to fall out of town or not, like I could see town Koshi believing this but i'm not sure.

this doesnt tell me, who you will be voting for today, or why


We just talked about that post
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 27 2017 18:46 GMT
#3068
Tbh both AMG and Damdred have been pretty (a)pathetic in recent days. And Tumble as well.

Are you really sure it's disfo+Koshi rayn...?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 27 2017 18:50 GMT
#3070
On March 28 2017 02:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So like AMG + anyone but Koshi is like:
"Hey let me bus Eden and lets have you super hard-defend him so i then you have to call you scum later for that" (which is also what happened...


Suuuper duuuper dumb.


Wait, I'm a bit confused. I probably misunderstood this point earlier.

You meant that only Koshi would fit with AMG...? Hm....
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 27 2017 18:51 GMT
#3072
Yeah I totally misunderstood.

And yeah it kind of makes sense.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 27 2017 18:51 GMT
#3073
On March 28 2017 03:51 disformation wrote:
amg has been all game. like he didnt even really push someone D2 over his tr on eden.


He did kind of push me though, but didn't show up around EOD if I remember.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 27 2017 19:03 GMT
#3075
Well yeah, pretty weak / bandwagoning.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 27 2017 19:41 GMT
#3079
Hmmm.....
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 27 2017 19:43 GMT
#3081
rayn, I summon thee!

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"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 27 2017 19:46 GMT
#3088
On March 28 2017 03:13 Xatalos wrote:
On the other hand, here are some connection thingies I thought about.

These are the pretty much impossible scumteams...

Eden & Damdred -> Damdred out

AMG & Koshi (as explained by rayn)

Eden & disformation (not sure? - but this doesn't seem very likely to me, considering disfo went fast after Eden on D2, even before rayn had claimed and was up for lynch, and besides Eden hard-townread disfo which would be a bit unusual)

So considering these facts, I don't think we should lynch Damdred or disformation today... And actually Tumblewood might be the best bet, since his vote history is pretty shady and he'd fit decently with Eden / anyone else.. What do you think rayn? Not really all that sold on disfo.


(to rayn)

To add to that: I seem to have misunderstood your AMG & Koshi post earlier. Apparently you meant that AMG & Koshi would be the only sensible team for both of them? Could you explain that better?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 27 2017 19:47 GMT
#3089
On March 28 2017 04:45 Koshi wrote:
If you weren't confirmed you were 5000% scum.


That's a pretty big if
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 27 2017 20:08 GMT
#3105
Although rayn, disfo did go swiftly after Eden on D2 (even before you claimed, and just after Damdred). And stayed on him to the end. I'm not really confident if scum disfo does that.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 27 2017 20:09 GMT
#3107
On March 28 2017 05:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And if there is bussing going on on D1 do you seriously think the person being bussed is Damdred who would be a mafia power role over Eden? No no nono... no.


Yeah I agree with that though.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 27 2017 20:18 GMT
#3119
On March 28 2017 05:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2017 05:08 Xatalos wrote:
Although rayn, disfo did go swiftly after Eden on D2 (even before you claimed, and just after Damdred). And stayed on him to the end. I'm not really confident if scum disfo does that.

He has benn calling Eden out already after ritoky's post. What else is he gonna do?

Like i can lynch Tumblewood too. I really don't care. I just think the case on AMG + Damdred are super fucking terrible.


I'd probably prefer Tumble right now. Not really confident either way.... Tumble had some good posts a while back, but yeah, his voting record is bad and overall he hasn't done much of anything useful.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
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