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disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 24 2017 14:20 GMT
#2610
meh. thing i dont like for example: you have like 0 mention of rels/amg and tw prior to now.
like only ppl you had reads on before now are like: rayn, koshi, xata, dbs/rit and briefly calix.
thats not even 50% of the game.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 24 2017 14:29 GMT
#2612
On March 21 2017 04:22 Onegu wrote:
Will most likely sheep my town reads though.

##Vote:Eden

your only townreads where calix and xata?
and you dont like koshi and rayn, as per:
On March 21 2017 04:18 Onegu wrote:
The fact that Koshi isnt shouting from the rooftops that I am scum has me highly doubtful about him.

The fact Rayn isnt bitching about me more has me worried.

Calix doing so makes her town.

Xata is town.

Everyone else I have little to comment on.

then explain:
On March 21 2017 05:22 Fecalfeast wrote:
Vote count

raynpelikoneet
(0) xatalos, calix, koshi
eden1892(6) damdred, disformation, raynpelikoneet, koshi, onegu xatalos
disformation(2) calix darthfoley xatalos
AMG(1) tumblewood

not voting
AMG, Eden1892


eden1892 is set to be lynched

though apparently there is an error in the vote count and it should be:
eden1892(6) damdred, disformation, raynpelikoneet, koshi, xatalos, onegu

am still like ???
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 24 2017 14:54 GMT
#2618
On March 24 2017 23:37 Onegu wrote:
I sheeped xata because I thought he was blue.

aight. can go both ways though. timing wise also was the point when it started looking real real bad for eden, after xata switching vote. so nice and easy timing/excuse to hop onto the bus.
On March 24 2017 23:38 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2017 23:20 disformation wrote:
meh. thing i dont like for example: you have like 0 mention of rels/amg and tw prior to now.
like only ppl you had reads on before now are like: rayn, koshi, xata, dbs/rit and briefly calix.
thats not even 50% of the game.



So what. I dont comment on things I dont really have a opinion on. Never have.

you having no opinion on over half the game tells me you are not all that interested in solving it though...

though ill give you that i would expect scum!oneg to be a little bit more invested... or do interesting stuff... maybe that explains the nks? dunno.
On March 24 2017 23:46 darthfoley wrote:
Part of me agrees with Onegu in the sense that I don't understand clearing him.

Maybe it is truly straightforward and the night actions don't make sense because the scum don't care. But maybe they're keeping rayn alive for a day because he's "cleared" them and they aren't in the PoE... especially because of the WIFOM bullet carrying

dont fully understand the first sentence, can you rephrase?
also not too sure about the bullet carrying wifom.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 24 2017 15:14 GMT
#2620
On March 24 2017 23:57 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2017 23:54 disformation wrote:
On March 24 2017 23:37 Onegu wrote:
I sheeped xata because I thought he was blue.

aight. can go both ways though. timing wise also was the point when it started looking real real bad for eden, after xata switching vote. so nice and easy timing/excuse to hop onto the bus.
On March 24 2017 23:38 Onegu wrote:
On March 24 2017 23:20 disformation wrote:
meh. thing i dont like for example: you have like 0 mention of rels/amg and tw prior to now.
like only ppl you had reads on before now are like: rayn, koshi, xata, dbs/rit and briefly calix.
thats not even 50% of the game.



So what. I dont comment on things I dont really have a opinion on. Never have.

you having no opinion on over half the game tells me you are not all that interested in solving it though...

though ill give you that i would expect scum!oneg to be a little bit more invested... or do interesting stuff... maybe that explains the nks? dunno.
On March 24 2017 23:46 darthfoley wrote:
Part of me agrees with Onegu in the sense that I don't understand clearing him.

Maybe it is truly straightforward and the night actions don't make sense because the scum don't care. But maybe they're keeping rayn alive for a day because he's "cleared" them and they aren't in the PoE... especially because of the WIFOM bullet carrying

dont fully understand the first sentence, can you rephrase?
also not too sure about the bullet carrying wifom.



Dont get interested until lylo. Less reading...

not sure what to say to that...
best i came up with so far: -.-
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 24 2017 15:30 GMT
#2621
you are ugeno, the smuggler
captain of the century eagle, but I dont think your code checks out.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 24 2017 21:14 GMT
#2639
meh, nothing to see here i guess.

damdy and df voting would be nice though.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 25 2017 09:10 GMT
#2679
-.-

On March 25 2017 10:18 Tumblewood wrote:
rayn and df - duh
koshi - really overconfident at points + Show Spoiler [see here] +
On March 20 2017 07:46 Koshi wrote:
Classic case of mafia being overconfident and making a mistake.
; argues with the intent of being read (see: no fucking huge posts); tries to get in the scum team's head in weird ways
amg - ABORT i've only read 1 page of his filter and i already wanna lynch him (case incoming, or maybe at day)

are you trying to imply that wall posts are per default scummy? -.-
see i like to explain my thought process and show evidence for my posts.
On March 25 2017 16:25 Tumblewood wrote:
in order, the scumteams that make the most sense by association are:
damdred/disfo > amg/disfo > damdred/xata > amg/damdred > disfo/xata > amg/xata > any team with Koshi > any team with rayn or df
and I think damdred/disfo might be a winner

Aight. so can you explain those? does that give you a prefered lynch. is this solely association/poe?
because in the end it only says:
df and rayn never scum
koshi very unlikely scum.
scum some combination of: disfo, damdy, amg and with damdy/disfo the most likely one for whatever reason.

at least you are kinda playing now. xD
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 25 2017 09:12 GMT
#2680
hmmmm... maybe i should use more spoilers in my big posts to make them more readable
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 25 2017 10:49 GMT
#2686
On March 25 2017 19:45 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2017 18:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 25 2017 16:25 Tumblewood wrote:
in order, the scumteams that make the most sense by association are:
damdred/disfo > amg/disfo > damdred/xata > amg/damdred > disfo/xata > amg/xata > any team with Koshi > any team with rayn or df
and I think damdred/disfo might be a winner

What is "any team with rayn or df"?


Just that, rayn + X or DF + X?

so. how does a team work that is e.g. df+x where x is not rayn?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 25 2017 10:52 GMT
#2689
On March 25 2017 19:50 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2017 11:41 Tumblewood wrote:
maybe I could just go with the "never wrong on TvT arguments" theory and lynch amg and damdred. seems like a mighty easy play


What's this theory? Thread shitfights are always TvT? >.> I'll admit I've never participated in one as scum, but I've seen cases of that happening. Me (town) vs rayn (scum) for example haha

if i remember correctly he had like calix and me as tvt for our d1 argument.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 25 2017 10:53 GMT
#2690
On March 25 2017 19:52 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2017 19:50 Xatalos wrote:
On March 25 2017 11:41 Tumblewood wrote:
maybe I could just go with the "never wrong on TvT arguments" theory and lynch amg and damdred. seems like a mighty easy play


What's this theory? Thread shitfights are always TvT? >.> I'll admit I've never participated in one as scum, but I've seen cases of that happening. Me (town) vs rayn (scum) for example haha

if i remember correctly he had like calix and me as tvt for our d1 argument.

yeah:
On March 17 2017 23:50 Tumblewood wrote:
ALSO disfo v calix is a TvT argument. no way scum!disfo goes into an argument against someone way more widely TR b/c he knows he won't win

On March 18 2017 00:54 Tumblewood wrote:
you can poke holes in my TvT argument but I know I'm right, I've never missed a read like this. and if you are baffled by how else disfo could respond to an accusation, look at what I've done all game

disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 25 2017 10:57 GMT
#2693
was skimming a bit through koshi's filter, but the only thing i found was his somewhat suspect readflip and vote D2, that i already pointed out.
+ Show Spoiler [in dat post] +

On March 22 2017 19:42 disformation wrote:
seems im stuck on phone for a while. so quoting n shit hard. so ill try to be concise n shit.
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2017 07:01 beentheredonethat wrote:
D2 Final Vote Count


raynpelikoneet (0) xatalos, calix, koshi
eden1892 (6): damdred, disformation, raynpelikoneet,koshi, onegu, xatalos, darthfoley, Calix, raynpelikoneet
disformation (1): Calix, darthfoley, xatalos, Tumblewood
AMG (0): Tumblewood
Koshi (0): Tumblewood
Xatalos (3): raynpelikoneet, AMG, Koshi, raynpelikoneet

Not voting (1): Eden1892


so:
ignoring tumble:
as mentioned earlier:
id say 2 scum on efen or 1 scum on eden 1 on xata.
with tumble it can be tumble +1 eden. or tumble and 1 xata.

looking at the xata wagon:

rayn: given his read progression and everything it makes a lot of sense for him. also first on a wagon that makes a lot of sense for him to be on. not much to see.

koshi:
[-] hard flip of his read on xata.
[+] posted good reasons to scum read xata
[--] timing. koshi flipping the xata read and voting xata brought the votes to 4 eden, 3 disf, 3 xata. like he flipped vote and read precisely at a time where the xata train got a bit of steam and it seemed it might take of. so if xata is town this might point to a scum koshi.

reminds me that i wanted to filter dive him.

amg:
a fuckton of wifom here. strangely more focused on defending eden than getting a specific person lynched. hard to tell if he just really thought eden is town or went for a huge wifom play.
tinfoil sick play: xata/amg/eden for max wtf.
would have liked it more if he had more actively tried to get a scumread lynched.
so overall meh.


so still not seeing it. either need a yuge tinfoil, oneg's meds or whatever tw is smoking. probably all three.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 25 2017 10:58 GMT
#2694
yeah him being stubborn about his tvt was also one of the points why i had a town lean based on tone on him D2.
though he did flip his read on me D2, when he saw good points about me in koshis filter.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 25 2017 11:06 GMT
#2697
On March 25 2017 19:58 Xatalos wrote:
Hmm... Everyone alive now has some reason I think they're town. But obviously 2 are scum...

inb4 all vt after all xD

though dont think it is very likely
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 25 2017 11:11 GMT
#2699
not really. which is why i think it is very unlikely.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 25 2017 11:42 GMT
#2705
assuming its not the all vt thing.

Damdred (3) - raynpelikoneet, Koshi, DeepBlueSea89, Eden1892
disformation (0) - Calix, Xatalos, Koshi
Raynpelikoneet (2) - Malongo, Tumblewood, Xatalos
Calix (0) - disformation, Eden1892
Onegu (0) - Koshi, Tumblewood
darthfoley (0) - disformation, Tumbleweed
Malongo (6) - darthfoley, Koshi, disformation, Calix, Damdred, Xatalos
Tumblewood (0) - Xatalos
Koshi (0) - Onegu
DeepBlueSea (1) - Onegu
Rels (1) - Rels


raynpelikoneet (0) xatalos, calix, koshi
eden1892 (6): damdred, disformation, raynpelikoneet ,koshi, onegu, xatalos, darthfoley, Calix, raynpelikoneet
disformation (1): Calix, darthfoley, xatalos, Tumblewood
AMG (0): Tumblewood
Koshi (0): Tumblewood
Xatalos (3): raynpelikoneet, AMG, Koshi, raynpelikoneet

Not voting (1): Eden1892


day 1:
a) 2 on malongo: Koshi, damdy, xata
b) 1 on malongo, 1 on x. 1 of Koshi, damdy, xata and 1 of tw, rels
c) team afk: tw + rels

damdy slightly less likely due to eden on him.
if all wagons are town, more likely for scum to spread out.
would point to 1 of koshi, xata + 1 of tw and rels/amg

day 2:
a) 2 on eden: straightup xata + damdy
b) 1 eden, 1 xata: 1 of xata, damdy + 1 of koshi, amg
c) something something tumble: tumble +1 of koshi, amg, damdred, xata

damdred pulled a super sick bus if he is scum.
xata, tw would actually make some sense? like their plan was to try and get rayn lynched over eden. when rayn claimed they had no real backup and tw didnt want to risk getting xata killed, cause xata is gf/rb? would also make sense with tw being like "check me!".
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 25 2017 11:43 GMT
#2706
not as conclusive as i hoped though.
remind me to bitch at ppl 24/7 to form two proper wagons.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 25 2017 11:44 GMT
#2707
next phase here and next games i play in general
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 25 2017 11:57 GMT
#2714
On March 25 2017 20:55 Xatalos wrote:
Did Tumble say "check me?"

On March 25 2017 06:52 Tumblewood wrote:
it would be real nice if onegu flipped scum, because then someone would get to clear me for certain (pssst)

On March 25 2017 07:10 Tumblewood wrote:
fuck I needed that

disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 25 2017 12:05 GMT
#2718
On March 25 2017 21:01 Xatalos wrote:
I think he was referring to the theory of GF Onegu though? By saying "if he's scum". Doesn't really make any sense with GF Tumble

ah makes sense. yeah, way less bad in that context.
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