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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
February 07 2017 16:16 GMT
#1239
On February 08 2017 01:10 RtaniSoul wrote:
Also, Grack, why am I mafia? You've created a scenario in which I could be a spy with Vivax based on how the votes went but there's no actual arguments for why I'm mafia in there.


Yea explain why I put resistance sharkie instead of spy rtanisoul into a team for starters, and then proceed to argue my ass off with them all day.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
February 07 2017 16:17 GMT
#1240
Btw you can't leave until we tell you to leave. Consider yourself fungal'd
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
February 07 2017 16:23 GMT
#1244
On February 08 2017 01:17 RtaniSoul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2017 01:16 Vivax wrote:
On February 08 2017 01:10 RtaniSoul wrote:
Also, Grack, why am I mafia? You've created a scenario in which I could be a spy with Vivax based on how the votes went but there's no actual arguments for why I'm mafia in there.


Yea explain why I put resistance sharkie instead of spy rtanisoul into a team for starters, and then proceed to argue my ass off with them all day.

Stop piggybacking my arguments, it's unnerving


I don't care it doesn't make sense as much to me as it does to you.

Grack needs to bleed explanations now
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
February 07 2017 18:34 GMT
#1265
On February 08 2017 03:32 RtaniSoul wrote:
I'm going to laugh if this mission just ends up passing and the scumteam has been trolling us.


I'd keep calling you spy just cause
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
February 08 2017 05:27 GMT
#1293
On February 08 2017 09:07 sicklucker wrote:
yep sicklucker silver grack and vivax are going on a mission.


You do realize this will never pass, and not just cause of me.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
February 08 2017 07:11 GMT
#1300
Game would be much easier for me if Grack didnt do that super odd 180° with his read on me, topping it off with him using the same argument to reach a different conclusion. Now I have to nay vote anything with sharkie + Grack on it.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
February 08 2017 07:23 GMT
#1302
On February 08 2017 16:15 sicklucker wrote:
how is grack ever mafia man. he was the top town read in the first mission why not sabotage it?


It's what I thought at first but apparently it's just wifom and he wants me to believe swika are the spy
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
February 08 2017 07:40 GMT
#1305
And his read switch happened right when I was in a fight with rtanisoul and sharkie so it looked like he changed his read along with sentiment.

That's not a slam dunk argument for him being spy, but enough for me to vote exclude on missions with him + sharkie.

+ Show Spoiler +
I'm honestly salty and I would approve a mission (no I wouldn't but I wish I could) with him + rtanisoul (unable to TR but might give it a shot) + swika (town) + TW (town) even if I'm sure it fails just to prove my point.

sharkie + rtanisoul (unable to TR) + swika (town) + TW (town) is another option but if that fails it means that Gracks read switch on me was borderline gamethrowing and awful.

Using a mission to prove that somebody is spy is now a luxury anyways, we got 2 more for each. So I've spoilered this cuz it's hypothtetical and not what I'm planning but if I had a mission cop check it would look like this, maybe subbing someone else in for rtanisoul as I see myself unable to trust them.


I'd give a mission with you on it a shot SL but I think that you won't get enough approval and it's mostly cause I'm crazy and cause nobody ever raised his voice for you which would be odd if you were spy. I'll be the first.

And now I'm back to square one with sharkie and won't approve anything with Grack on it either.

Moral of the story: Rest of town has to figure out you, super, emc, TW.

Gut wise I think you and TW are most town, followed by EMC, and of those superbia is most likely spy cause his vote analysis leads to nowhere and I believe only aims at proving himself town, not forming a team. Also his banter with rtanisoul annoys me. He never steps on anyones toes with his posts.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
February 08 2017 07:42 GMT
#1306

First it was RT+sharkie, now it is Grack+sharkie? You keep pulling out these combos out of nowhere even though they make completely no sense? Next if silver were to defend me and accuse you, would you create a silver+sharkie combo?


Do you know the difference between OR and AND? I have my doubts.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
February 08 2017 07:49 GMT
#1309
On February 08 2017 16:46 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2017 16:42 Vivax wrote:

First it was RT+sharkie, now it is Grack+sharkie? You keep pulling out these combos out of nowhere even though they make completely no sense? Next if silver were to defend me and accuse you, would you create a silver+sharkie combo?


Do you know the difference between OR and AND? I have my doubts.


Are you using '+' as OR? If so, apologies then...

I use '+' as AND...


Well to make it clear I didn't mean to say that you are both spies. I just can't discern it now.

But while I was sure at first that a failure would mean you are spy, Grack posting scumster/godawful posts like accusing me of wifom which he previously liked and saying I'm on a team with rtaniSoul made me indecisive between the two of you.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
February 08 2017 07:57 GMT
#1311
On February 08 2017 16:54 RtaniSoul wrote:
Trying to do some VCA right now. The colours aren't related to alignment but based on patterns of voting. Most people vote fairly similarly, just EC, sharkie and superbia have stuck out.
Votes:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2017 07:05 Rels wrote:
The team consisting of RtaniSoul, Silverika, Superbia has been rejected.

Votes for: sharkie, Silverika.
Votes against: Grackaroni, RtaniSoul, sicklucker, Superbia, Tumblewood, Vivax.
Calix did not vote (counted as reject).


Calix has been warned for not voting.


Team Leader
Tumblewood will now make Attempt #2 to nominate a team for Mission #1. The nomination will be locked Sunday, Jan 29 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00), in .



Show nested quote +
On January 31 2017 07:00 Rels wrote:
The team consisting of Grackaroni, Tumblewood, Vivax has been rejected.

Votes for: Tumblewood.
Votes against: Grackaroni, RtaniSoul, sharkie, sicklucker, Silverika, Superbia, Vivax.
Calix did not vote (counted as reject).


Calix has been replaced be emperorchampion.


Team Leader
emperorchampion will now make Attempt #3 to nominate a team for Mission #1. The nomination will be locked Tuesday, Jan 31 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00), in .



Show nested quote +
On February 02 2017 07:00 Rels wrote:
The team consisting of Silverika, Superbia, Tumblewood has been rejected.

Votes for: emperorchampion, Silverika.
Votes against: Grackaroni, RtaniSoul, sharkie, sicklucker, Superbia, Vivax.
Tumblewood did not vote (counted as reject).


Tumblewood has been warned for not voting.


Team Leader
Vivax will now make Attempt #4 to nominate a team for Mission #1. The nomination will be locked Thursday, Feb 02 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00), in .


Show nested quote +
On February 04 2017 07:00 disformation wrote:
The team consisting of Grackaroni, sharkie, Silverika has been approved.

Votes for: Grackaroni, RtaniSoul, sharkie, sicklucker, Silverika, Tumblewood, Vivax.
Votes against: emperorchampion, Superbia.

The team will now embark on the mission. If there are any spies on the mission team, they may sabotage the mission by PM to all hosts with ##sabotage.


Deadline/Mission results on Saturday, Feb 04 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) in .


Show nested quote +
On February 07 2017 07:00 Rels wrote:
The team consisting of Grackaroni, sharkie, Silverika, Vivax has been approved.

Votes for: Grackaroni, RtaniSoul, sicklucker, Silverika, Tumblewood, Vivax.
Votes against: emperorchampion, sharkie, Superbia.

The team will now embark on the mission. If there are any spies on the mission team, they may sabotage the mission by PM to all hosts with ##sabotage.


Deadline/Mission results on Tuesday, Feb 07 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) in .


Superbia, why have you voted against every single team so far?
EC, can you take us through your vote process?
Tumble, what would you have voted on attempt 3 of mission 1 if you were there?


None of the guys you marked red was even on the failing team

...

You forgetting something or are those the red guys only based on vca
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
February 08 2017 07:58 GMT
#1312
Oh sorry I just read what the colours meant
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
February 08 2017 09:33 GMT
#1318
On February 08 2017 17:36 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2017 16:23 Vivax wrote:
On February 08 2017 16:15 sicklucker wrote:
how is grack ever mafia man. he was the top town read in the first mission why not sabotage it?


It's what I thought at first but apparently it's just wifom and he wants me to believe swika are the spy


are you sure your not just doing your standard conspiracy theory garbage


Conspiracy theory garbage would be:

I put sharkie as my spy man into the team. I don't make an all resistance team cause that's against wincon. I also advertise not putting the leader in as policy (until there's good reason to assume they're town) which is against spy wincon.
He passes so I can get onto the next team.
I ask to sub rtanisoul in to frame them when the mission fails.
I spend all day arguing why sharkie my spy bud is spy.

Grack comes in and I'm not only spy, I'm also spy with rtanisoul, I also nomed a team that was all resistance, and for some reason bussed a guy to death who was being covered heavily by a resistance rtaniSoul.

Is this, gracks version, a version that makes any sense to you? You're free to disregard the self nom thingy as I can see why you would think I did it for cred. But the rest seems pretty convincingly like BS to me.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
February 08 2017 09:37 GMT
#1319
Anyway Gracks version is that team #1 I nomed was all resistance.

Feel free to put anyone townie you want instead of me then, watch it fail and let me enjoy confirmed town lyfe, cuz both sharkie and grack are opposing me and I can't be spy unless swika is spy.

And I'm salty enough to take the risk to approve it.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
February 08 2017 13:10 GMT
#1327
On February 08 2017 21:23 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2017 16:44 sharkie wrote:
So the mission failed after all.
Now before we even knew if the mission was going to fail we had our two prominent nayvoters EC and super appear back into the game and post as if it were day one.

For me that is way too big a coincidence to happen for both players. Sure I know I am the prime suspect of a spy for pretty much everyone in this game but neither of them posted that much after the first mission was approved and sent out (with me in the team). They only started talking so much when the 4man team was approved. Now of course they will cry vote analysis for this reason but my counter to that is they nayvoted the previous 3 man team too and yet they did not bother to cause such an uproar at that time.

So EC, super: tell us why the 4 man team bothered you so much but the 3 man team you let pass quite easily without much rejections?

Also I think SL and TW are still owing us explanations for yayvoting the 4man team although the team had people they accuse of being a spy.



I don't even about this...


It's a great question thanks for bringing it up
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
February 08 2017 16:18 GMT
#1331
On February 09 2017 00:47 sharkie wrote:
What is wrong with you all?
Suddenly Grack is everyone's favourite guy to hit upon? How can anyone turn from most trusted guy (wanted on the team by literally everyone) to the dumping ground of mistrust. And the most surprising thing out of all is how vivax and RT totally forgot their vendetta with each other and suddenly are best buddies (not saying that both of them are spies). I don't think I have ever seen anyone jump up so high in trust as vivax did while being in a failed mission.

Everyone can imagine Grack being the mastermind from the shadows, manipulating everyone from day one. Yesterday most didn't even bother listening to what I was saying how good spies don't play it the conventional way and you believed that I have to be obvious spy 100% (with the exception of RT). If you can consider Grack being a spy then surely silver can be a spy too (not saying that they are but has to be kept in mind). Way too many people are ganging up on Grack (math wise).

Also I even read how SL could be a possible resistance player, now that is one thing I cannot imagine at all. That guy doesn't care one bit about what is happening in the game. He doesn't even know who was sent out for the second mission..

Now I expect I get shit for defending Grack just like RT did yesterday for defending me...


who would you sub in instead of me and if it fails, who is the spy?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
February 09 2017 11:34 GMT
#1442
Well RtaniSoul gets an easy townread now.

I don't even know what all the fuss is about me sharkie is making, I asked him a clear question: Which team do you think would succeed, and since he's so convinced Grack is not mafia, would he still think that if the team failed without me on it and for example rtanisoul instead?

Right now he's just flailing at me getting TR and grack scumread. What point is there, where does he want to lead? Just don't add me on the team then or don't approve teams with me on it, I'm perfectly fine not being on a team as long as I think it will succeed. But with what you're doing you aren't providing solutions.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
February 09 2017 12:23 GMT
#1444
get shrekd
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
February 09 2017 14:47 GMT
#1473
Tinfoil time:

Could it be super + sharkie are both spy and the reason they passed the first mission was that their only out was to both scumread swika, so when the second mission failed their only out is to scumread me?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
February 09 2017 15:02 GMT
#1479
On February 09 2017 23:51 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2017 23:47 Vivax wrote:
Tinfoil time:

Could it be super + sharkie are both spy and the reason they passed the first mission was that their only out was to both scumread swika, so when the second mission failed their only out is to scumread me?


I'd guess you mean grack+me, not super?
If that were the case I am pretty sure one of us would have played the total scapegoat and the other the loyal resistance player...


yea grack + you.

Thinking of super as spy as well so I made a freudian slip there
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