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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
February 04 2017 08:00 GMT
#809
You tilt too easily at what others think of you just try to play your best game and provide solutions or make a nice list post like Grack. I'm reading your posts it's just that most of the time they are really random and contribute little. When you posted I also asked you something pretty simple a few mins later and you just vanished.

Literally had no idea whether you would approve or reject and that we should keep it secret is BS. We can't coordinate an entire town in thread to pretend to vote approve and then actually reject to uncover the spies.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
February 04 2017 09:21 GMT
#811
The reason we believe the mission will fail are the approval votes. But ofc it might be too early to call it and it will actually pass.

However

. I think this is a win/win situation for the spies too as they definitely managed to discredit at least my position.


You are also sure the mission will fail by saying this and you don't really think about who you're gonna blame for it in your post.

P.S. Vivax I hate you for not choosing yourself over me.


????
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
February 04 2017 09:29 GMT
#813
On February 04 2017 18:23 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2017 18:21 Vivax wrote:
The reason we believe the mission will fail are the approval votes. But ofc it might be too early to call it and it will actually pass.

However

. I think this is a win/win situation for the spies too as they definitely managed to discredit at least my position.


You are also sure the mission will fail by saying this and you don't really think about who you're gonna blame for it in your post.

P.S. Vivax I hate you for not choosing yourself over me.


????


No I don't think the mission will fail at all. Why should I think that? It has my best members on it..

If you had chosen yourself over me I would not be in that team! :p


But how can you think you will be discredited if you think the mission will pass?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
February 04 2017 09:54 GMT
#815
On February 04 2017 18:34 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2017 18:29 Vivax wrote:
On February 04 2017 18:23 sharkie wrote:
On February 04 2017 18:21 Vivax wrote:
The reason we believe the mission will fail are the approval votes. But ofc it might be too early to call it and it will actually pass.

However

. I think this is a win/win situation for the spies too as they definitely managed to discredit at least my position.


You are also sure the mission will fail by saying this and you don't really think about who you're gonna blame for it in your post.

P.S. Vivax I hate you for not choosing yourself over me.


????


No I don't think the mission will fail at all. Why should I think that? It has my best members on it..

If you had chosen yourself over me I would not be in that team! :p


But how can you think you will be discredited if you think the mission will pass?


Because I am the least resistance guy out of us three.


In %?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
February 04 2017 15:41 GMT
#822
Obviously if this passes the spies can start posting baby seals. Or resistance pix like SL already did lol.

The votes just make it look like it won't but idk, maybe they lost all hope already.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
February 05 2017 00:33 GMT
#861
Only way it wasn't all town is that sharkie got cold feet and assisted instead of sabotaging. But good to know Grack and Swika are like confirmed now cause they would know that sharkie would get most of the blame, as spies.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
February 05 2017 01:28 GMT
#867
On February 05 2017 10:06 Superbia wrote:
Absolutely revolting way of approaching the game.

Oh well. :D


No need to approach the game in that way.

It's simpler than that.

You either think that sharkie is spy who passed and rtani is with him with someone else like TW. Tinfoil version.
Or you think SL, EMC, and someone else like TW are spies. Sane version.

Ofc you can still be spy as well but not accounted for above.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
February 05 2017 05:26 GMT
#872
It's tempting to just assume the nay votes + SL are spy tbh
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
February 05 2017 12:09 GMT
#889
It would probs be riskier but give more info if you swap out sharkie with rtanisoul.

If the mission fails now for example it will at first glance look as if I was the cause, but it could also have been sharkie only passing on his first mission. If you then settle for townreading me still, we still won't know if rtaniSoul would be a safe pick, you would only get the confirmation that sharkie isn't.

Whereas with the mission failing with rtaniSoul on it along with me, I would know exactly who to blame for it
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
February 05 2017 12:27 GMT
#891
In other words, we can afford to use the next mission to put someone in who needs to be cleared of being spy as not sabotaging it only gives them one more attempt and we can expect that no spy in their right mind will let this pass.

On the other hand if sharkie was spy and didn't sabotage #1 they will attempt to frame the newcomer in#2 of being spy if it gets sabotaged.

But it might turn up to be a bad plan so I'm leaving it up to you. I'm fine with both options.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
February 05 2017 15:10 GMT
#895
Grack isn't scum though as the suspicion would easily have fallen onto sharkie if he sabotaged. I'm really confident about this.

So I'm trying to force a decision between you and me (in terms of alignment) in the eventuality of mission failure by requesting you to be on the team with me, along with two others who are very very likely resistance. It's pretty much the most sure way for me to be 100% on your alignment as I will be 100% convinced that you're spy if the mission fails.

Besides I don't understand why you resist this suggestion so much if you are resistance and townreading me. According to your own beliefs, the mission should pass no? And since when did you become so waffly on Grack?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
February 05 2017 15:17 GMT
#897
It's my suggestion for gathering more information as, if the current nomination fails, most will be sure that sharkie is spy which writes 1 spy off. But if you are on it instead of him and it fails, there is the opportunity to write 2 spies off, only leaving you with 1 member to win the game.

And since it's still a nomination that excludes emc/SL/superbia/TW, it's still a safe way to establish if we got sneakster spies or obvious spies. As the 4 above are the most distrusted ones in the game and this would clear at least one of them.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
February 05 2017 15:20 GMT
#899
On February 06 2017 00:14 RtaniSoul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2017 00:10 Vivax wrote:
Grack isn't scum though as the suspicion would easily have fallen onto sharkie if he sabotaged. I'm really confident about this.

So I'm trying to force a decision between you and me (in terms of alignment) in the eventuality of mission failure by requesting you to be on the team with me, along with two others who are very very likely resistance. It's pretty much the most sure way for me to be 100% on your alignment as I will be 100% convinced that you're spy if the mission fails.

Besides I don't understand why you resist this suggestion so much if you are resistance and townreading me. According to your own beliefs, the mission should pass no? And since when did you become so waffly on Grack?

you're sitting in your world of 'if this mission fails' then x,y,z

we still think the most likely scenario is that all of sharkie, grack and silver are town. introducing you into that equation is a lesser certainty. for us we'd be happiest with us being added to the team instead of you xP


Well if that's your most likely scenario, why doesn't it take into consideration that it's a team I nominated?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
February 06 2017 04:02 GMT
#912
On February 06 2017 01:56 Silverika wrote:
I get the point sharkie is making that vivax is setting up a scenario where he can frame Rtani Soul and fail the mission but my counter to that is, he could just leave it as is, and fail it and blame sharkie.

So I don't think it's that cut and dry and Vivax is suddenly pulling out all the stops as a spy.

I think Rtani Soul not liking the Vivax, Grack, us, them is a little more suspect because they'd have a hard time failing it if they are a spy, with this team because they wouldn't have sharkie to blame and they'd have a tough time blaming anyone else if it failed.

~SilverWolf77


^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

My suggestion is competely unnecessary to make as spy, it's simply logical that the entire purpose of it is to see if the mission fails with rtanisoul on it as if it fails with sharkie on it, we still have 2 more spies to find.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
February 06 2017 05:24 GMT
#914
On February 06 2017 14:18 Grackaroni wrote:
I have no idea why everyone loves me so much this game.

Vivax's idea makes sense to me from his perspective. If he's super confident that Silver & I are town then he can use the team as a cop check on Rtanisoul, which would more or less solve the game for him.


And I have no idea why you are deemed the king of shitposts. I like your style, it just lacks the humour you had back in GoT mafia.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
February 07 2017 08:54 GMT
#1055
This seems like a good day been reading a bunch of stuff that stirred me up but I'll start adressing all of it when I see the mission outcome and it's a failure.

If it fails tho rtanisoul + sharkie is a given. I don't see how anyone would not think that sharkie was spy if mission 1 failed, so all the explanations for swika being town besides that one are superflous and the fact they refuse to townread Grack also speaks volumes as he is their only out from scumreading sharkie.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
February 07 2017 09:01 GMT
#1058
On February 07 2017 03:19 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2017 03:14 Silverika wrote:
On February 07 2017 02:58 Grackaroni wrote:
Methinks the team is Sharkie/Tumblewood/Rtanisoul


I was trying to think of scum sharkie wanting scum rtanisoul on a mission, when he was already on it, as highly unlikely. They only need one fail vote.

~SilverWolf77

That's a pretty good point.


That's not a good point two spies on a mission is a good strat as people tend to assume only one person is to blame, for simplicity's sake. Accusing two people on the same team at the same time is hard to do.

This is one of the things that bothered me, and also why it bothered me that rtanisoul wanted to sub in for me as opposed to my suggestion that they sub in for sharkie.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
February 07 2017 09:03 GMT
#1060
On February 07 2017 17:58 RtaniSoul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2017 17:54 Vivax wrote:
This seems like a good day been reading a bunch of stuff that stirred me up but I'll start adressing all of it when I see the mission outcome and it's a failure.

If it fails tho rtanisoul + sharkie is a given. I don't see how anyone would not think that sharkie was spy if mission 1 failed, so all the explanations for swika being town besides that one are superflous and the fact they refuse to townread Grack also speaks volumes as he is their only out from scumreading sharkie.

Will you take full responsibility for losing this game if this mission fails and we're not mafia?


No, cause you could have supported my suggestion of subbing you in for sharkie.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
February 07 2017 09:04 GMT
#1061
On February 07 2017 18:01 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2017 17:54 Vivax wrote:
This seems like a good day been reading a bunch of stuff that stirred me up but I'll start adressing all of it when I see the mission outcome and it's a failure.

If it fails tho rtanisoul + sharkie is a given. I don't see how anyone would not think that sharkie was spy if mission 1 failed, so all the explanations for swika being town besides that one are superflous and the fact they refuse to townread Grack also speaks volumes as he is their only out from scumreading sharkie.


Have you even read my posts at all? I put Grack onto my 100% resistance list.
Do you refuse to read my posts or you do keep leaving out things intentionally?

Also why wait for the mission outcome? Just address them now.


I'm mostly referring to rtanisoul, no point of you passing first mission as spy if you don't use it to push the scenario where team 1 was all resistance, so it's obvious that it's your current argument.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
February 07 2017 09:11 GMT
#1064
On February 07 2017 18:06 RtaniSoul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2017 18:03 Vivax wrote:
On February 07 2017 17:58 RtaniSoul wrote:
On February 07 2017 17:54 Vivax wrote:
This seems like a good day been reading a bunch of stuff that stirred me up but I'll start adressing all of it when I see the mission outcome and it's a failure.

If it fails tho rtanisoul + sharkie is a given. I don't see how anyone would not think that sharkie was spy if mission 1 failed, so all the explanations for swika being town besides that one are superflous and the fact they refuse to townread Grack also speaks volumes as he is their only out from scumreading sharkie.

Will you take full responsibility for losing this game if this mission fails and we're not mafia?


No, cause you could have supported my suggestion of subbing you in for sharkie.

No, because we feel more secure in his slot than your slot, so why would we have done that?


How does that make any sense? If you knew you were resistance and had doubts on sharkie like I do, being in a rtanisoul, vivax, swika, grack team would guarantee a win, in your book. Instead you counter proposed that we put you in alongside sharkie.

And why don't you want to acknowledge that Grack isn't spy as he could easily have failed the first mission with sharkie being the obvious blame dumpster.
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