EPTLiterally had no idea whether you would approve or reject and that we should keep it secret is BS. We can't coordinate an entire town in thread to pretend to vote approve and then actually reject to uncover the spies.
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Literally had no idea whether you would approve or reject and that we should keep it secret is BS. We can't coordinate an entire town in thread to pretend to vote approve and then actually reject to uncover the spies. | ||
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However . I think this is a win/win situation for the spies too as they definitely managed to discredit at least my position. You are also sure the mission will fail by saying this and you don't really think about who you're gonna blame for it in your post. P.S. Vivax I hate you for not choosing yourself over me. ???? | ||
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On February 04 2017 18:23 sharkie wrote: No I don't think the mission will fail at all. Why should I think that? It has my best members on it.. If you had chosen yourself over me I would not be in that team! :p But how can you think you will be discredited if you think the mission will pass? | ||
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On February 04 2017 18:34 sharkie wrote: Because I am the least resistance guy out of us three. In %?  | ||
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The votes just make it look like it won't but idk, maybe they lost all hope already. | ||
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On February 05 2017 10:06 Superbia wrote: Absolutely revolting way of approaching the game. Oh well. :D No need to approach the game in that way. It's simpler than that. You either think that sharkie is spy who passed and rtani is with him with someone else like TW. Tinfoil version. Or you think SL, EMC, and someone else like TW are spies. Sane version. Ofc you can still be spy as well but not accounted for above. | ||
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If the mission fails now for example it will at first glance look as if I was the cause, but it could also have been sharkie only passing on his first mission. If you then settle for townreading me still, we still won't know if rtaniSoul would be a safe pick, you would only get the confirmation that sharkie isn't. Whereas with the mission failing with rtaniSoul on it along with me, I would know exactly who to blame for it  | ||
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On the other hand if sharkie was spy and didn't sabotage #1 they will attempt to frame the newcomer in#2 of being spy if it gets sabotaged. But it might turn up to be a bad plan so I'm leaving it up to you. I'm fine with both options. | ||
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So I'm trying to force a decision between you and me (in terms of alignment) in the eventuality of mission failure by requesting you to be on the team with me, along with two others who are very very likely resistance. It's pretty much the most sure way for me to be 100% on your alignment as I will be 100% convinced that you're spy if the mission fails. Besides I don't understand why you resist this suggestion so much if you are resistance and townreading me. According to your own beliefs, the mission should pass no? And since when did you become so waffly on Grack? | ||
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And since it's still a nomination that excludes emc/SL/superbia/TW, it's still a safe way to establish if we got sneakster spies or obvious spies. As the 4 above are the most distrusted ones in the game and this would clear at least one of them. | ||
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On February 06 2017 00:14 RtaniSoul wrote: you're sitting in your world of 'if this mission fails' then x,y,z we still think the most likely scenario is that all of sharkie, grack and silver are town. introducing you into that equation is a lesser certainty. for us we'd be happiest with us being added to the team instead of you xP Well if that's your most likely scenario, why doesn't it take into consideration that it's a team I nominated? | ||
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On February 06 2017 01:56 Silverika wrote: I get the point sharkie is making that vivax is setting up a scenario where he can frame Rtani Soul and fail the mission but my counter to that is, he could just leave it as is, and fail it and blame sharkie. So I don't think it's that cut and dry and Vivax is suddenly pulling out all the stops as a spy. I think Rtani Soul not liking the Vivax, Grack, us, them is a little more suspect because they'd have a hard time failing it if they are a spy, with this team because they wouldn't have sharkie to blame and they'd have a tough time blaming anyone else if it failed. ~SilverWolf77 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ My suggestion is competely unnecessary to make as spy, it's simply logical that the entire purpose of it is to see if the mission fails with rtanisoul on it as if it fails with sharkie on it, we still have 2 more spies to find. | ||
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On February 06 2017 14:18 Grackaroni wrote: I have no idea why everyone loves me so much this game. Vivax's idea makes sense to me from his perspective. If he's super confident that Silver & I are town then he can use the team as a cop check on Rtanisoul, which would more or less solve the game for him. And I have no idea why you are deemed the king of shitposts. I like your style, it just lacks the humour you had back in GoT mafia. | ||
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If it fails tho rtanisoul + sharkie is a given. I don't see how anyone would not think that sharkie was spy if mission 1 failed, so all the explanations for swika being town besides that one are superflous and the fact they refuse to townread Grack also speaks volumes as he is their only out from scumreading sharkie. | ||
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That's not a good point two spies on a mission is a good strat as people tend to assume only one person is to blame, for simplicity's sake. Accusing two people on the same team at the same time is hard to do. This is one of the things that bothered me, and also why it bothered me that rtanisoul wanted to sub in for me as opposed to my suggestion that they sub in for sharkie. | ||
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On February 07 2017 17:58 RtaniSoul wrote: Will you take full responsibility for losing this game if this mission fails and we're not mafia? No, cause you could have supported my suggestion of subbing you in for sharkie. | ||
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On February 07 2017 18:01 sharkie wrote: Have you even read my posts at all? I put Grack onto my 100% resistance list. Do you refuse to read my posts or you do keep leaving out things intentionally? Also why wait for the mission outcome? Just address them now. I'm mostly referring to rtanisoul, no point of you passing first mission as spy if you don't use it to push the scenario where team 1 was all resistance, so it's obvious that it's your current argument. | ||
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On February 07 2017 18:06 RtaniSoul wrote: No, because we feel more secure in his slot than your slot, so why would we have done that? How does that make any sense? If you knew you were resistance and had doubts on sharkie like I do, being in a rtanisoul, vivax, swika, grack team would guarantee a win, in your book. Instead you counter proposed that we put you in alongside sharkie. And why don't you want to acknowledge that Grack isn't spy as he could easily have failed the first mission with sharkie being the obvious blame dumpster. | ||
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