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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
January 17 2017 17:09 GMT
#747
On January 18 2017 02:08 Holyflare wrote:
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On January 18 2017 02:06 Hapahauli wrote:
HF, that case is entirely bullshit, because you assume this is a normal game. It's not. Up until this morning, it's been an unproductive snoozefest where no one has been able to do much of anything, let alone look townie or find mafia.

What do you make of my push on you? You obviously disagree with it as either alignment. But is the push likely to come from town me or mafia me?


I have no idea because I don't know what a staple town you or mafia you is. I'm going by what I imagine a player that has been lynched 0-1 times as town would play and I know you're capable of wall of flashy text. I think all your reasons for voting people are surface level and say nothing.

It has minimal pages but there's a LOT of content to go on.

agreed and agreed

personally, guys, i dont want to lynch HF right now

he is playing better and more townie than some (damdred, ls, alakaslam) to name 3
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
January 17 2017 17:10 GMT
#751
On January 18 2017 02:09 Holyflare wrote:
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On January 18 2017 02:08 Bill Murray wrote:
On January 18 2017 02:07 Holyflare wrote:
Also I absolutely hate how nobody is talking about LS. (I guess my fault) BUT he's spent the entirety of the first 24 hours of the game doing nothing but waiting for damdred and then when damdred finally answered it's "oh, okay" and then just leaves again until the wagon on me starts and he has to vote somewhere at which point he states he has no idea how to read me.

Out of the fight of hapa/hf he even said it was hapa most likely mafia and hasn't commented on anything since but now it's the other way around.

what do u mean its the other way around, now?


ls is voting me over hapa

i took what ls said as he suspected u over hapa when he said it earlier was there a point he flip flopped on that because there was definitely a period he "wasnt sure who was the "s" in his T V S" he called between u two
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
January 17 2017 17:11 GMT
#755
On January 18 2017 02:10 Holyflare wrote:
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On January 18 2017 02:09 Vivax wrote:
On January 18 2017 02:07 Bill Murray wrote:
On January 18 2017 02:06 Vivax wrote:
On January 18 2017 02:03 Hapahauli wrote:
On January 18 2017 01:59 Vivax wrote:
The thought just occurred to me that mafia isn't trying to lynch Damdred.

Hapa doesn't want to lynch Damdred.
Rels doesn't.
HF doesn't.

These are the guys I'm wondering about being scum mostly for the moment.

Nobody except me seems to do. I'm like an open arms invitation to a Damdred mislynch since any scummer will know I'm supporting it and will try to put as much weight as possible behind it.

And that's fishy.

And LS looks fishy too cause he simply isn't around.


I think everyone in the thread would "settle" for a Damdred lynch, which I dislike a lot.

I don't think mafia has been pushing much of anything, mostly because they haven't had to.


Why would you dislike it if it's obvious that mafia isn't pushing him, as I am the only one?

If HF is mafia and Damdred isn't, why is nobody besides me trying to bring more attention to Damdred?

HF himself not trying to deflect the lynch off himself onto Damdred looks townie at glance but I treat it as wifom.

hf tunneled onto hapa all game and still


Yes but I have offered him plenty of opportunity to jump on Damdred and he didn't. He didn't eat the bait.
And I don't see why you continue that line when I just said it's wifom.


damdred
is
a
coin
flip

I don't think hapa is.

u know ur alignment tho and a coin flip on unhelpful town (if hes tails vs heads scum) is better to you than you as town no?
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
January 17 2017 17:12 GMT
#757
On January 18 2017 02:11 Onegu wrote:
Would let you lynch me over HF. I think he is a coin flip at best and the chance that he is town and wins it for me would give him mvp and me the second most points for saving him. Im willing to risk it.

this follows what u said earlier that in mylo hf would nail mafia and i agree but i dont want to lose u because i have a town read on you so why cant we find someone other than EITHER of u
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
January 17 2017 17:12 GMT
#762
On January 18 2017 02:11 Vivax wrote:
Since when are people with 3 pages of filter considered coinflips?

when those 3 pages are "LS is town because meta" and "im going to sheep thread sentiment" plus "parrot squawks"
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
January 17 2017 17:13 GMT
#764
at this point, to me, we might not be able to do a GREAT thing but im not wanting to do a BAD thing in mislynching potentially our best player
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
January 17 2017 17:14 GMT
#768
do you have ANY feelings on who you think his partner could be? youve tunneled him pretty hard who is he least interacting with, HF? [on hapa]
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
January 17 2017 17:15 GMT
#770
On January 18 2017 02:14 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2017 02:10 Hapahauli wrote:
On January 18 2017 02:06 Vivax wrote:
On January 18 2017 02:03 Hapahauli wrote:
On January 18 2017 01:59 Vivax wrote:
The thought just occurred to me that mafia isn't trying to lynch Damdred.

Hapa doesn't want to lynch Damdred.
Rels doesn't.
HF doesn't.

These are the guys I'm wondering about being scum mostly for the moment.

Nobody except me seems to do. I'm like an open arms invitation to a Damdred mislynch since any scummer will know I'm supporting it and will try to put as much weight as possible behind it.

And that's fishy.

And LS looks fishy too cause he simply isn't around.


I think everyone in the thread would "settle" for a Damdred lynch, which I dislike a lot.

I don't think mafia has been pushing much of anything, mostly because they haven't had to.


Why would you dislike it if it's obvious that mafia isn't pushing him, as I am the only one?

If HF is mafia and Damdred isn't, why is nobody besides me trying to bring more attention to Damdred?

HF himself not trying to deflect the lynch off himself onto Damdred looks townie at glance but I treat it as wifom.


It's too early to say where HF will ultimately have his vote after today.

Because Damdred is an inactive coinflip. I've said this earlier. And based on how the thread direction was before the Holyflare stuff, there was nothing else being pushed except for Damdred. As if mafia was comfortable letting that happen. That's no bueno to me.


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On January 17 2017 02:02 Hapahauli wrote:
On January 17 2017 01:56 Rels wrote:
Hapa I might be tunneled. But again all of these questions seem pointless to me. They look good but won't add anything meaningful. Not the Vivax one, but the other two


What I'm ultimately trying to get at with Damdred, is that I feel he's been a non-entity this game. The contributions he has made have not been of his own volition, but have been from his responses to people questioning him.

The only thing he's been vocal about is a read on lightning strike (which he made in response to my various lines of questioning during the game). Other than that, his read on me last night sort of morphs and changes with whatever HolyFlare was posting at the time.

The question on you was because I was looking into Vivax's case, which still doesn't make much sense to me.


So what you said earlier as if it had any meaning suddenly is all made up cause the guy you had an opinion on became an inactive coinflip cause reasons?

lol
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
January 17 2017 17:15 GMT
#771
On January 18 2017 02:14 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2017 02:13 LightningStrike wrote:
On January 18 2017 02:11 Holyflare wrote:
On January 18 2017 02:10 LightningStrike wrote:
On mobile
On January 18 2017 02:07 Holyflare wrote:
Also I absolutely hate how nobody is talking about LS. (I guess my fault) BUT he's spent the entirety of the first 24 hours of the game doing nothing but waiting for damdred and then when damdred finally answered it's "oh, okay" and then just leaves again until the wagon on me starts and he has to vote somewhere at which point he states he has no idea how to read me.

Out of the fight of hapa/hf he even said it was hapa most likely mafia and hasn't commented on anything since but now it's the other way around.

I liked you plus vivax's case on HF when I caught up and I also noted how I thought hf was a little nitpicky on Damdred -.-


Which I dropped when I completely saw the points hapa made??? Explain why it was nitpicky LS.

You were picking tiny things from during a period that wouldn't make anyone scum.


you think a player that got caught in a lie is picking tiny things? when damdred even admitted himself it made him look bad?

where is said lie? page? quote?
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
January 17 2017 17:15 GMT
#774
we have 15 minutes.
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
January 17 2017 17:16 GMT
#776
On January 18 2017 02:15 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2017 02:14 Bill Murray wrote:
do you have ANY feelings on who you think his partner could be? youve tunneled him pretty hard who is he least interacting with, HF? [on hapa]


ls:

Show nested quote +
On January 17 2017 01:02 Hapahauli wrote:
On January 16 2017 05:39 Damdred wrote:
On January 16 2017 05:25 Hapahauli wrote:
On January 16 2017 05:16 Damdred wrote:
Here is the thing hapa I already have a pretty solid read on me currently. And that he is probably town at this point moving forward.

How did I get here? Why thank you for asking!

You see it starts with me having bad reasons that are correct. LS makes a meta point about my play and how I react to him, ( ie of I legit push him as scum and he flips town im scum as I read him like 100%). Town point.

States things that are clear as day at points even jokes. Town point (really lacks much of this as scum).

And seems to be able to give ok if not lower thought process on current events. So he's just town.

And that went on longer than I wanted


Okay.

Is this a case you would make on other townies, or is there something meta-specific here about LS? How confident is this read, scale of 1 to 10?



It's something meta specific to ls. He's incredibly lazy, isn't really confrontational and lays super low as scum.

He can get past these of his partner is someone he lives and pushed his buttons and rides him hard.

I would give it an 7-8 atm. Probably halfway through the day I can lock in depending. But some nice meta things on ls.


Damdred, update me on this. Right now, I'm seeing the bolded from LS.


never mentioned again

yeah i noticed that and i thought it was a fair point to bring up

if hapa and LS are a team though why would he make that point?
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
January 17 2017 17:17 GMT
#779
a thought that just made me laugh... what if hapa and hf are both maf ... hahahaa that would be nuts
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
January 17 2017 17:19 GMT
#785
On January 18 2017 02:12 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2017 02:10 Bill Murray wrote:
On January 18 2017 02:09 Holyflare wrote:
On January 18 2017 02:08 Bill Murray wrote:
On January 18 2017 02:07 Holyflare wrote:
Also I absolutely hate how nobody is talking about LS. (I guess my fault) BUT he's spent the entirety of the first 24 hours of the game doing nothing but waiting for damdred and then when damdred finally answered it's "oh, okay" and then just leaves again until the wagon on me starts and he has to vote somewhere at which point he states he has no idea how to read me.

Out of the fight of hapa/hf he even said it was hapa most likely mafia and hasn't commented on anything since but now it's the other way around.

what do u mean its the other way around, now?


ls is voting me over hapa

i took what ls said as he suspected u over hapa when he said it earlier was there a point he flip flopped on that because there was definitely a period he "wasnt sure who was the "s" in his T V S" he called between u two

Show nested quote +
On January 17 2017 01:15 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +

Town
Damdred: Meta and actions suggest more likely town than scum.
Vivax: He had good pressure on Hapa and then later pressuring Rels.
Null:
HF: Easily could do those stuff from both alignment.
Rels: Need more posts from him to get better read on him.
Slam: Need him to explain his Hapa read a bit more.
Onegu: Only made 2 posts need more posts from him period.
Hapa: Would be my scum in the fight between him and HF didn't like the way he had shut down HF's push on you. But is okay but still questionable

pretty flip floppy good catch in the lie im of the "lynch all liars" school

couple that with his illogical fallacy and i would be ok with this
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
January 17 2017 17:20 GMT
#788
On January 18 2017 02:19 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2017 02:17 Bill Murray wrote:
a thought that just made me laugh... what if hapa and hf are both maf ... hahahaa that would be nuts


Not unlikely.

What this game currently lacks is leverage. We don't really have a club of votes to swing at new content cause Slam and 1gu aren't here.

true

and no it would be a good play ur right its not unlikely from a high level of play standpoint
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
January 17 2017 17:20 GMT
#796
On January 18 2017 02:19 Rels wrote:
Hapa is a bad lynch. If he is scum he tryharded when he didn't need to. And apparently he's a bad scum

agreed but then again

look at this game? it's for "who is the best on teamliquid" in a sense

So of any game to tryhard in, it's this
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
January 17 2017 17:21 GMT
#799
shew i have to vote someone ... i dont really have any solid reads
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
January 17 2017 17:21 GMT
#801
On January 18 2017 02:21 Damdred wrote:
Scrum ls detected

u srs?
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
January 17 2017 17:22 GMT
#803
agree vivax
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
January 17 2017 17:26 GMT
#822
On January 18 2017 02:24 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2017 02:23 Damdred wrote:
Ls vote on hf is so bad and is scrum indicative of him I think, lure she do for no reason



This isnt English

lol

im either gonna put my vote back on LS because he flip flopped/lied

and the gambler's fallacy

OR i'm gonna vote Rels because of his ad hominem, but i think , despite that, he's likely town so i don't really want to vote him even if my heart is telling me to. it's a classic battle of head (LS) vs heart (Rels)

Damdred/LS interaction is weird
Rels/Vivax interaction was just rude

#vote LS
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
January 17 2017 17:27 GMT
#828
quickest wagon ever
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