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On December 22 2016 18:55 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On December 22 2016 18:50 Koshi wrote:
Also Rels, if you want to gain any townpoints.
1) Explain how you dieing means I am mafia? Why you? You didn't pressure me at all before saying that, why would I kill you, why not HF or sicklucker?
2) Accept the fact disformation is town. And give me extra reasoning why he is town. But accept it fully. I want you to write it down so you can't waffle around it anymore today.
3) Do you think HF is lock town for at least another day? YOU CANT TELL ME WHAT TO DO 1) I had this thought while I was drinking, that everybody else would kill HF or you, but if you're scum you wouldn't kill HF 'cause he's in your pocket 2) nope 3) probably
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See.
Who said ExO was very likely town the entire day? Koshi.
Who was convinced he was a bad lynch when he came back. Koshi.
Who said the opposite. Rels
Who is saying Disformation is looking extremely townie lately. Koshi
Who is saying the opposite. Rels.
Who said Alakaslam his first voteswap from Rels to Disinformation was more likely to come from town and gave awesome reasoning? Koshi
Who is saying Alakaslam has been showing an extremely townie mindset in every post he makes. Koshi
Who said the opposite. Rels
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What game are you playing?
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On December 22 2016 18:57 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On December 22 2016 18:52 Koshi wrote:
Oh and in addition.
You did the same on Kmatt (first mafia, then town, both reads very weak and waffly) and on Exo you also made a very unconvincing post on why he was mafia.
I can see from reading your posts you don't really believe what you write. well since you always think that of me early game unless I find a scum and destroy him, I dont care
Well seems like you need to up your early game.
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On December 22 2016 18:57 Rels wrote:
Koshi you ever played with scum disfo ?
Probably not.
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Ok I ll make a towncase on disformation.
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On December 21 2016 10:35 Kmatt wrote:![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/W6IQsnY.jpg) Damn it all why didn't you morons talk me out of this.
WE LOST E L O S T
This is just after exo lynch. I don't understand the bolded. Even after coming back a few hours before the lynch you didn't seem to be OK to change the lynch. You did have a sentence about having an "open mind" or something like that, but you basically showed that you wouldn't change your vote. Why post this ? I don't think it was possible for someone to talk you out of this ?
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On December 21 2016 11:12 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2016 10:49 disformation wrote:
ExO_ (5): Kmatt, Holyflare, Koshi, Rels, sicklucker, disformation, Koshi
Alakaslam (2): Koshi, Koshi, LightningStrike
disformation (1): Holyflare, Koshi, Koshi, Alakaslam
Holyflare (1): ExO_
Kmatt (0): sicklucker
sicklucker (0): Koshi
Rels (0): Alakaslam
Bit of stuff planned tomorrow. Will try to find some time and look at reasons/timings behind the votes. okay general thoughts: at least 1 scum on exo. i know im town. i think hf is town (let me look at his filter tomorrow). so at least one in: kmatt, sl, rels. if its two its not rels and sl. dont think they would hard tr each other over that mindmeld stuff. out of the three remaining players slam obv sticks out the most. and he apparently thought the deadline was later, so he didnt have time to "fix" that. one of ls and koshi might have the tmi factor going, but need to reread. but yeah tomorrow is filter time
Correct analysis. Nothing here is being held back or is pushing an agenda.
On December 21 2016 21:24 disformation wrote:I think its kmatt +1. partially because I think that the exo vs kmatt thing was not tvt. another thing is how he approached the exo wagon the whole day and then made quite a few strange posts right before eod after being "Nah exo didnt post anything that changed my mind". something is def. wrong surrounding rels. like the sl mindmeld on him, with rels tring sl super hard. the whole approach on me. he was also pretty waffly on exo at the start right? will be back later to look at some filters in more detail. tbh I am super looking forward to see, who the suspects are going to want to lynch themselves. 
Super townie sentence. Rest of the post is ok.
On December 21 2016 21:26 disformation wrote:
especially after slam looks a lot better now.
shows he uses PoE in his head.
On December 22 2016 01:06 disformation wrote:
So looking at filters for votes and stuff. part 1.
LS (see my last post): looks more town than scum. not impossible to be scum. like if his partner is on exo and slam is town, he could have been trying to come up with a decent reason to not be on the same wagon. but I dont think his behaviour/tone match up with that.
Slam starts pushing and voting Rels over Rels having a strange/wrong read on me. Rels rectifies his read on me and points out a pretty scummy post by me. Slam votes me and just returns b4 the deadline. still would liked for him to say something about why he was voting me, but in context it makes sense.
I loved that part from the LS read here. Again shows that he in his head is putting a lot of value in the Vote Analysis.
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I actually hate disfo filter way more than Kmatt
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On December 22 2016 19:08 Koshi wrote:took page 8: Show nested quote +On December 21 2016 11:12 disformation wrote:On December 21 2016 10:49 disformation wrote:
ExO_ (5): Kmatt, Holyflare, Koshi, Rels, sicklucker, disformation, Koshi
Alakaslam (2): Koshi, Koshi, LightningStrike
disformation (1): Holyflare, Koshi, Koshi, Alakaslam
Holyflare (1): ExO_
Kmatt (0): sicklucker
sicklucker (0): Koshi
Rels (0): Alakaslam
Bit of stuff planned tomorrow. Will try to find some time and look at reasons/timings behind the votes. okay general thoughts: at least 1 scum on exo. i know im town. i think hf is town (let me look at his filter tomorrow). so at least one in: kmatt, sl, rels. if its two its not rels and sl. dont think they would hard tr each other over that mindmeld stuff. out of the three remaining players slam obv sticks out the most. and he apparently thought the deadline was later, so he didnt have time to "fix" that. one of ls and koshi might have the tmi factor going, but need to reread. but yeah tomorrow is filter time Correct analysis. Nothing here is being held back or is pushing an agenda. Show nested quote +On December 21 2016 21:24 disformation wrote:I think its kmatt +1. partially because I think that the exo vs kmatt thing was not tvt. another thing is how he approached the exo wagon the whole day and then made quite a few strange posts right before eod after being "Nah exo didnt post anything that changed my mind". something is def. wrong surrounding rels. like the sl mindmeld on him, with rels tring sl super hard. the whole approach on me. he was also pretty waffly on exo at the start right? will be back later to look at some filters in more detail. tbh I am super looking forward to see, who the suspects are going to want to lynch themselves. Super townie sentence. Rest of the post is ok. Show nested quote +On December 21 2016 21:26 disformation wrote:
especially after slam looks a lot better now. shows he uses PoE in his head. Show nested quote +On December 22 2016 01:06 disformation wrote:
So looking at filters for votes and stuff. part 1.
LS (see my last post): looks more town than scum. not impossible to be scum. like if his partner is on exo and slam is town, he could have been trying to come up with a decent reason to not be on the same wagon. but I dont think his behaviour/tone match up with that.
Slam starts pushing and voting Rels over Rels having a strange/wrong read on me. Rels rectifies his read on me and points out a pretty scummy post by me. Slam votes me and just returns b4 the deadline. still would liked for him to say something about why he was voting me, but in context it makes sense. I loved that part from the LS read here. Again shows that he in his head is putting a lot of value in the Vote Analysis.
If you read the dark tournamenet filter you'll see that these types of posts is actually what he does as scum. General nice looking posts about the game and that fits with the thread leaders'view of the game. I was pocketed for the entire game in Dark Tournament and I'm seeing this in this game
k let me show you
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On December 20 2016 23:49 disformation wrote:Thing is you seem to be super aware that the mindmeld might sound constructed or something. Show nested quote +On December 20 2016 21:09 sicklucker wrote:
so ya me and rels both had independently the same idea unless you think im bullshitting about not reading the thread. easy town reads boys Show nested quote +On December 20 2016 21:15 sicklucker wrote:
Like I dont even care if exos town and we mislynch. im never voting rels for the rest of the game.
I give you my word 100% this coincidence of reads is too sick to ignore. Since I posted my reads after you psoted your probably just gonna be paranoid and think this is some ploy but from my perspective you had already posted this shit I just diddnt reaD it and then I posted the same shit before reading it Another thing is that, aside from the mindmeld, you like rels for posts that a lot of ppl called him out for (slam, koshi, hf).
Nothing sarcastic, not opportunistic. Reads genuine.
On December 21 2016 00:00 disformation wrote:well doesnt need to be planned. you just saw his posts and then decide to do that mindmeld thing. granted it would be super strange if you are town and he is scum. so that should mean either both of you are town or you are scum and he is town. like i dont think it would be impossible for you as scum to fake that mindmeld to like pocket him and push a ml or two together. i dont like that part where you say you dont care if ExO_ is a ML: Show nested quote +On December 20 2016 21:15 sicklucker wrote:
Like I dont even care if exos town and we mislynch. im never voting rels for the rest of the game.
I give you my word 100% this coincidence of reads is too sick to ignore. Since I posted my reads after you psoted your probably just gonna be paranoid and think this is some ploy but from my perspective you had already posted this shit I just diddnt reaD it and then I posted the same shit before reading it though I am not sure scum would post it like this. you actually sound pretty happy/excited about having a 100% tr D1.
Nothing sarcastic, not opportunistic. Reads genuine.
On December 21 2016 00:04 disformation wrote:
Am I not sure if this plan would be great as scum, but as you said you dont really plan. xD
Posts like this are really different than his scumgame. In which he always made big cases to convince himself somebody was mafia. Here he applies pressure and can back off. But in the last mafia game he would have even in this sentence tried to convince the thread sicklucker is mafia. People change ofc.
On December 21 2016 00:34 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2016 00:24 Koshi wrote:
Could Kmatt and Exo be mafia partners? That little outburst at the start? Was it odd? There was def. something off in that exchange. It is like a reaction bait into a reaction bait into ExO_ being super pissed. And it def. doesnt read super natural. So I am thinking there is probably a scummer in there. Since ExO_ didnt come back to play, but only to fish for feels I am assuming the one scummer is him. For both to be scum I think they have to be cool with Kmatt getting enough cred off that to carry? Or they went to far and dont have the motivation to salvage it? Like Kmatt didnt have a huge thread presence in his other game either, so I dont think him going carry is like a plan. Unless they are like sicklucker and just wanted to do it. Like exo points out a mehish point on Kmatt for disassociation, Kmatt goes right back at him and either ExO_ gets pissed by that, or he tries to fake the game I linked? I guess it is not impossible, but it sounds fairly far fetched for me.
Is this mafia being super opportunistic and setting up a double misslynch? Doesn't read like that.
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On December 22 2016 19:21 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On December 22 2016 19:08 Koshi wrote:took page 8: On December 21 2016 11:12 disformation wrote:On December 21 2016 10:49 disformation wrote:
ExO_ (5): Kmatt, Holyflare, Koshi, Rels, sicklucker, disformation, Koshi
Alakaslam (2): Koshi, Koshi, LightningStrike
disformation (1): Holyflare, Koshi, Koshi, Alakaslam
Holyflare (1): ExO_
Kmatt (0): sicklucker
sicklucker (0): Koshi
Rels (0): Alakaslam
Bit of stuff planned tomorrow. Will try to find some time and look at reasons/timings behind the votes. okay general thoughts: at least 1 scum on exo. i know im town. i think hf is town (let me look at his filter tomorrow). so at least one in: kmatt, sl, rels. if its two its not rels and sl. dont think they would hard tr each other over that mindmeld stuff. out of the three remaining players slam obv sticks out the most. and he apparently thought the deadline was later, so he didnt have time to "fix" that. one of ls and koshi might have the tmi factor going, but need to reread. but yeah tomorrow is filter time Correct analysis. Nothing here is being held back or is pushing an agenda. On December 21 2016 21:24 disformation wrote:I think its kmatt +1. partially because I think that the exo vs kmatt thing was not tvt. another thing is how he approached the exo wagon the whole day and then made quite a few strange posts right before eod after being "Nah exo didnt post anything that changed my mind". something is def. wrong surrounding rels. like the sl mindmeld on him, with rels tring sl super hard. the whole approach on me. he was also pretty waffly on exo at the start right? will be back later to look at some filters in more detail. tbh I am super looking forward to see, who the suspects are going to want to lynch themselves. Super townie sentence. Rest of the post is ok. On December 21 2016 21:26 disformation wrote:
especially after slam looks a lot better now. shows he uses PoE in his head. On December 22 2016 01:06 disformation wrote:
So looking at filters for votes and stuff. part 1.
LS (see my last post): looks more town than scum. not impossible to be scum. like if his partner is on exo and slam is town, he could have been trying to come up with a decent reason to not be on the same wagon. but I dont think his behaviour/tone match up with that.
Slam starts pushing and voting Rels over Rels having a strange/wrong read on me. Rels rectifies his read on me and points out a pretty scummy post by me. Slam votes me and just returns b4 the deadline. still would liked for him to say something about why he was voting me, but in context it makes sense. I loved that part from the LS read here. Again shows that he in his head is putting a lot of value in the Vote Analysis. If you read the dark tournamenet filter you'll see that these types of posts is actually what he does as scum. General nice looking posts about the game and that fits with the thread leaders'view of the game. I was pocketed for the entire game in Dark Tournament and I'm seeing this in this game k let me show you
oh boi.
Teach me sensei.
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On December 22 2016 18:29 Rels wrote:
disfo. I wanna talk about how you read my entire filter to see if I talked about Kmatt but missed the two psots where (1) I ask you about it and (2) I read the filter and said my mind about it
I think I remembered it coming up which was why I was looking for it, but for some reason I missed your answer on it.
It was late, I got sloppy, I fucked up, sorry.
But dont you think I would be more careful as scum? =D
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On December 22 2016 19:32 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On December 22 2016 18:29 Rels wrote:
disfo. I wanna talk about how you read my entire filter to see if I talked about Kmatt but missed the two psots where (1) I ask you about it and (2) I read the filter and said my mind about it I think I remembered it coming up which was why I was looking for it, but for some reason I missed your answer on it. It was late, I got sloppy, I fucked up, sorry. But dont you think I would be more careful as scum? =D
No I hate that excuse.
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and it is not even true. People fuck up reading as scum as well.
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Yeah it was an attempt at a joke (hence the smiley) cause:
On December 21 2016 07:34 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2016 07:31 Koshi wrote:On December 21 2016 07:29 Koshi wrote:On December 21 2016 07:26 LightningStrike wrote:On December 21 2016 07:25 Koshi wrote:On December 21 2016 07:23 LightningStrike wrote:On December 21 2016 07:21 Koshi wrote:On December 21 2016 07:20 LightningStrike wrote:
Guys I really do think Slam is the better lynch here over ExO since I had read some of ExO's past games and ExO seems to be playing his town meta and Slam hasn't done much other than agreeing with people on stuff outside of his talk about rels and some stuff in that post but that was it. We should really lynch Slam over ExO due to my reasoning. LS give me your top 4 names that could be mafia please. Slam, Kmatt, sicklucker if doesn't prove he is town by day 3, then idk honestly I been asking people what the case was on dis since everyone talked about him being scummy and all but no one mention a case. I think Rels is more likely mafia than sicklucker. Maybe. Hmm why you don't like Rels? I might of skimmed over it when I did my catch up post. He is a dumbass. For example when he was defending disinformation with a completely retarded reason which on top of that was incorrect because he didn't read carefully enough. Problem is I think the entity rels/sicklucker is more likely both town than both mafia. But 1 mafia/1 retarded seems more likely. You think I'm more careful as town than as scum ?
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On December 22 2016 18:55 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On December 22 2016 18:50 Koshi wrote:
Also Rels, if you want to gain any townpoints.
1) Explain how you dieing means I am mafia? Why you? You didn't pressure me at all before saying that, why would I kill you, why not HF or sicklucker?
2) Accept the fact disformation is town. And give me extra reasoning why he is town. But accept it fully. I want you to write it down so you can't waffle around it anymore today.
3) Do you think HF is lock town for at least another day? YOU CANT TELL ME WHAT TO DO 1) I had this thought while I was drinking, that everybody else would kill HF or you, but if you're scum you wouldn't kill HF 'cause he's in your pocket 2) nope 3) probably
I actually kinda like 1).
Think that is a towny approach. Would mafia be like "if I was town, who would I think scum would shoot?"
Leaning on no.
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On December 22 2016 19:32 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On December 22 2016 18:29 Rels wrote:
disfo. I wanna talk about how you read my entire filter to see if I talked about Kmatt but missed the two psots where (1) I ask you about it and (2) I read the filter and said my mind about it I think I remembered it coming up which was why I was looking for it, but for some reason I missed your answer on it. It was late, I got sloppy, I fucked up, sorry. But dont you think I would be more careful as scum? =D
Funny dude. I'm writing a big post on you. Light my lantern on one thing please: why did you find Kmatt townie during the early game, he's in one of your town list, you liked my post about him being townie, then when HF mentionned him before deadline you reread his filter but suddenly he's almost as scummy as exo, who is super scummy in your mind ?
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On December 22 2016 19:45 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On December 22 2016 19:32 disformation wrote:On December 22 2016 18:29 Rels wrote:
disfo. I wanna talk about how you read my entire filter to see if I talked about Kmatt but missed the two psots where (1) I ask you about it and (2) I read the filter and said my mind about it I think I remembered it coming up which was why I was looking for it, but for some reason I missed your answer on it. It was late, I got sloppy, I fucked up, sorry. But dont you think I would be more careful as scum? =D Funny dude. I'm writing a big post on you. Light my lantern on one thing please: why did you find Kmatt townie during the early game, he's in one of your town list, you liked my post about him being townie, then when HF mentionned him before deadline you reread his filter but suddenly he's almost as scummy as exo, who is super scummy in your mind ?
[scum]
Kmatt
Rels
SL
LS
[town]
Though I am currently somewhat confused by you tbh.
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