Yup.

HoB QT is really cool to read, seriously other players you need to check it out if you haven't already.
https://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/89iWXVWwWMS97
TT wins some kind of prize for that Disciple act I'm pretty sure.

cakepie

985 Posts

January 14 2017 20:10 GMT

#3395

Missed this.

On January 15 2017 02:36 disformation wrote:
The paper planes were very scum favored, if used right.

They were a one-shot per day, one-way PM. They were tied to weather:
- fair weather = delivered normally
- fog = message delayed by 12 hours
- drizzle = minor obfuscation of message (ink+raindrops, bad combination)
- breeze = RNG redirect 35% +/-1 and 15% +/-2 offset from intended recipient
- downpour = message lost

Each person gets a different weather each day by RNG; the weather forecast dictates the RNG probabilities for each weather effect on that day.

I don't think one-shot PM is that terribly scum favored. Yes, you're thinking scum can use it to send misleading information out of public eye. But town can also use it to coordinate and share non-public info. It just needs evaluated.

The weather put a twist on things but for the most part fog and drizzle effects did not really do much damage.

Not everyone used it on D2, and only LS used it on D3 and D4.

Of course, that D4 paper plane was game changing >-<;;

cakepie

985 Posts

January 15 2017 04:25 GMT

#3411

On January 15 2017 06:32 Koshi wrote:
You people call it a bastard game but it was a really well balanced and fun game. The only bastard part was the obspolls that kinda made it a bit interesting. But town needed it.

I beg to differ, the Ouija polls were intended to be balanced around an even mix of

20% scum fabricated result
20% (live+dead) scum votes
30% dead town votes
10% obs votes
20% host votes (which we used for troll and anti-swing)

However, in practice:

In the first poll, scum team completely missed the fact that they had both a fabricated result to send as well as actual votes -- which should hint to them quite clearly that some kind of mixture of results is going to happen. So btdt only submitted a (poorly) manipulated 3,2,1,2,3 result and none of the scum voted.
The results turned out to be combination of
25% scum fabricated result
37.5% Koshi
12.5% HtS
25% hosts

In the second poll, scum team failed to send a fabricated result, and only chez sent in a vote. Also there was no obs participation, and deadchat just sheeped Koshi. The results were combination of
28.57% Chez
42.86% Koshi and co.
28.57% hosts

tl;dr:

On January 14 2017 10:13 beentheredonethat wrote:
we even failed to manipulate the uija board.

Actual polling figures are here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_iy532vaAVXG73tdb9LfOzx1JA_gek1mGZjTrDbCZCA

On January 15 2017 06:32 Koshi wrote:
What I want to say it that due to saying it is a "bastard" game you did yourself short because it was in a way equal
to for example Palmar his game last time. That game was even way flashier.

That's what I said in #3389 -- we should not have promoted/sold this game as "bastard" -- it really wasn't, but we made a big deal out of it in pregame to grab attention. In hindsight this was not a good idea since it undermined the ability of players to reason about the game.

cakepie

985 Posts

January 15 2017 04:35 GMT

#3413

On January 15 2017 05:42 disformation wrote:
But i couldnt figure out how to use them at all and scum got me hard with that.
so might be biased. =p

e.g. you could secretly attempt to disclose to a strong townread that you have a certain item, and ask for their opinion on stuff.
e.g. "I have a oneshot vig, who would you suggest we vig"
and then the other person could respond in thread with vague suggestions of who needs shot, without tipping scum off to the fact that you have vig (which would reduces chances of vig being blocked)

basically like what btdt did if not for the fact that he faked it.

cakepie

985 Posts

January 15 2017 05:11 GMT

#3415

On January 15 2017 13:08 Chezinu wrote:
Oh and btw guys. I came back to play this game cause I wanted to announce that I'm a doctor.

You mean for realsies? If so, grats!

cakepie

985 Posts

January 15 2017 05:16 GMT

#3416

On January 15 2017 07:46 disformation wrote:
Yo the TT2 bus was super sick. Wiped off the suspicions I had completely.

On January 15 2017 07:16 beentheredonethat wrote:
I felt kinda bad for TiTr. [....] I completely ignored my team and played in a way a 3p antitown might play maybe. Basically, I was fine with sacrificing every single team member if only I survived.

56
Time Traveler
01-04-2017
06:46 PM ET (US)
I DONT WANT TO DIE.

57
Time Traveler
01-04-2017
06:51 PM ET (US)
Your continous and desperate attempts to lynch me are rather annoying.

58
beentheredonethat
01-04-2017
06:56 PM ET (US)
I'm sorry. Vote ExO, I can't.

cakepie

985 Posts

January 15 2017 06:11 GMT

#3421

The emergent gameplay is pretty nuts.

At some point in host chat I wrote something along the lines of

slam incorrectly thanks hosts via walkie talkie for the paperplane from LS to disfo getting blown off course by breeze, thus inadvertently radioing it to GB dentures

That was when we realized we had created a monster.

Gotta tell this story properly for those who didn't connect the dots / wouldn't go digging for it:

Calix & I were refining N1 feast item ideas. We crippled the "thermal goggles" + Show Spoiler +
The battery seems to be running low… enough for one night’s use.
As long as you still have battery power, you can target one player each night.
You will spy on their house, and find out if they were visited by anyone.
But you will not learn the identities of any visitors.
by giving it only enough battery power for one use. Then I added the "walkie talkie" + Show Spoiler +
You turn it on and find that it’s in perfect working condition! Then you feel silly because you only have one walkie talkie and no one to talk to.
as semi-troll complementary item that doesn't actually work as communications, but its batteries could be taken out and used in the goggles.
+ Show Spoiler +
Calix be like: what if no one takes the walkie talkie?
I was like: just you wait, people love that kind of shit
ExO gets the walkie talkie, tries using it to no avail (feedback: only empty static)
Meanwhile Alakaslam fails to get the walkie talkie, makes a big fuss in thread.
thermal goggles are in mafia possession (we expected them to hoard and never use it)
So we add "dentures"+ Show Spoiler +
You have some dentures!
Surprisingly, they fit!
to N2 feast, with hidden function as a passive receiver for the walkie talkie.
ExO got lynched D2 so when Grack picked up the dentures they did nothing.
On D3, Grack gets surplus items from feast leftovers and dead players for redistribution. He is also compelled to give away his own stuff. At EoD3/SoN3, walkie talkie goes to Alakaslam, dentures go to GB.
D4. Alakaslam tries to communicate with the hosts by walkie talkie, which is not what the walkie talkie was intended for. When his in-thread efforts fail, he goes to PMs. This happens:

GB responds to hosts by PM + Show Spoiler +
I CAN HEAR YA!! I CAN!
which has no effect
LS sends paper plane to disfo. Each player gets an RNG weather each day based on the weather forecast. LS rolled breeze on D4, so the message was diverted to Alakaslam instead.
Alakaslam assumes hosts are responding to his walkie talkie calls:

"Thank you based alien :D" occurs. Not clear if GB has picked up on "alien" linking the message to Alakaslam or not...
GB interprets the "intercepted message" as being from scum?LS to scum?disformation; accuses disformation
disformation mails the fission using the nuke that mafia!inventor Chez gave him.

Side note: + Show Spoiler +

crossbow (LS: no ammo) and small spear (btdt) were another pair of complementary items in N1. The flimsy little spear fell apart when btdt tried to stab someone with it, yielding a stupid little pointy stick -- which would have work as crossbow ammo.

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