Humm apparently there isn't an issue with my internet and it is actually something wrong with my PC. Gunna spend some time trying to figure this out but I'll keep checking in via mobile.

Tictock

United States6052 Posts

December 03 2016 00:26 GMT

#1626

No luck with my PC so let's try another filter post via phone. Reading Onegu this time.

I still kinda like Onegu's early posts as they flow easily and just seem like he's having some fun early game. Even his early stuff on Koshi feels more like he is joking around, though it kinda carries on too long.

Then I get to post #421 which is more or less the first serious post I'm finding from Onegu, and it's just undermining Gell's TR on Koshi. Doesn't quite match up with Onegu trolling Koshi but otherwise liking him as his filter thus far implies.

Took almost another full page of filter before I found another serious post, #800, and it's another post where he seems to dislike Koshi for OMGUS reasons. I really don't get what Onegu would expect when he openly claimed to be trolling Koshi and is literally calling him scum in almost every other post. I wish I could stick with ignoring this shit but it is literally the only content in Onegu's filter so far.

Right after that is Onegu's mega post #810. Noteable things in this post:
-Disregards LS's "seems like mafia in NU vs Emp, and NU seems more likely" with nothing
- Hard townreads HF for being laid back
-bunch more shit about Koshi
- Dislikes Emp for asking a question, might be noteworthy that Emp's question was directed at NU.

#878 - claims he will consolidate if Koshi won't happen. Says he needs to look into who else he might vote. So he had no scum reads besides Koshi at this point.

Next couple of posts he seems to put Emp in his sights. Mentions Emps back and forth on NU and then asks NU what was good about Emps case on me. Not sure this is a great basis for an association with NU but it's a bit odd how Onegu kinda talks about NU without giving any read on him.

Bunch more stuff about Koshi and then we get to Onegu's vote post on Emp. I mentioned this post before but it's still odd how Onegu says it's "NU or myself" again disregards giving a read on NU and instead references Koshi for why he doesn't want to vote NU. The vote on Emp at least tracks.

#1078 - First time we get a glimpse about Onegu's reads. Still no clue how he could townread me so hard given my D1, and NU is apparently a second teir townread.

And that is basically it. I mentioned his reactions to the flip before. They don't read as towns to me anymore. no reaction to a mafia flip,instead concedes Koshi is town and talks about his filter length. Which feels pretty silly given his whole filter is basically just pushing Koshi.

I'm also noting that Onegu did literally nothing to push Emp as scum. It really just looked like he realized he needed another target than Koshi and so choose Emp. Literally the only thing he mentioned he didn't like about Emp was him not liking him asking questions, which literally never makes anyone mafia.

Bumping Onegu up on my PoE, He should be the lynch after Shape or the lynch today if Shape somehow becomes towny.

Tictock

United States6052 Posts

December 03 2016 00:33 GMT

#1630

Really don't feel like doing another of those. Feel fine with lynching Shape still.

I'll be really surprised if the last 2 mafia are not in Shape/CM8/Onegu/SL.

@Gell if you wanna talk about HF I'm all ears but I still think he is town and even if I had more doubt I think there are far better targets.

Tictock

United States6052 Posts

December 03 2016 00:35 GMT

#1631

Kinda wanna see what drunken Rels comes up with.

Tictock

United States6052 Posts

December 03 2016 00:42 GMT

#1633

I have a better counter question.

How would I make that mistake as scum?

Tictock

United States6052 Posts

December 03 2016 01:17 GMT

#1645

On December 03 2016 10:09 mahrgell wrote:

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I don't entirely disagree on there being better targets. Then again, I just went into SLs filter again and it read much better than what my memory gave me yesterday. Like this runthrough does make him still shady but not this "wtf is he doing" - kind of shady I had in mind yesterday. His tone completely ticks me off though.
I will put my thoughts on him in an extra post.

Like right now I think I will take a step back and reevalutate everything. I really have to do that with a clear mind. I would have hoped I had this earlier this morning already :/
So sleep over everything. Then reread SL again. Reread HF again. Hope that Shlog posted and finally do his stuff.

I totally get this. It took me a solid 3-4 games with SL before I didn't instantly scumread him based on his tone and general posting style. Not to mention the inane amount of really shitty ideas he has at times.

I think it is mostly his personality mixed with how he plays so he is harder to pick out as scum.

Tictock

United States6052 Posts

December 03 2016 02:57 GMT

#1662

I wish I wasn't mobile, I'd totally find a silly gif and claim it was TMI.

Too Much Insinuation
Terribly Matched Infograms
Titilating Mustard Injection
Tall Marching Infants
Trees Manipulating Infrastructure
Thougrough Mango Investigation

Something like that.

Tictock

United States6052 Posts

December 03 2016 05:32 GMT

#1664

Decided to read through darth's filter before bed. Don't want to do another big post on my phone so just going to summarize.

Overall I kinda like darths D1 play. He gave NU a pass early on without and reason given but I did the same since NU's early posting seemed fine-ish. I'm a bit surprised he didn't notice more of a difference in NU's play later on, given we both just played with him in the last newbie game. Still reads seem overall on point.

EoD is where darth looks the worst. However I can totally see his posts coming from the mindset of town wanting to create an alternate wagon. He would have to be pretty desperate as mafia trying to save NU to make some of those posts. Darth reacted pretty strongly to NU's "Koshi case good..." post and I feel like if mafia were to start down that path they would just hardcore bus, not spend a bunch of posts pushing other wagons which is sure to draw attention if and when NU flips.

His night posts about being checked are also way too blatant if darth were mafia and had just spent EoD pushing for another wagon. I almost thought there might be a TMI argument, but with a flipped Framer we know there is some kind of cop in the game.

So yea, seems pretty unlikely that darth is mafia here.

Tictock

United States6052 Posts

December 03 2016 05:36 GMT

#1665

That still ended up fairly big, oh well.

Just FYI, I'll be at work through deadline again. I should be able to do the same thing and at least keep up with reading with a post or two thrown in. We will see if anything changes between now and then, but it's not looking like it.

Tictock

United States6052 Posts

December 03 2016 05:43 GMT

#1666

Also congrats darth on placing in the top ten in your smash tournament.

Yea this day has turned out super boring. I don't think Onegu has posted at all today along with CM8. Might end the day with a triple flip at this rate.

Tictock

United States6052 Posts

December 03 2016 10:03 GMT

#1679

On December 03 2016 15:24 sicklucker wrote:
I just dont think tis very likely I would be double bussed day 1 rels to add to what you were asking.. Like those are mostly new players and I have never played with any of them ffs

Who was the other mafia that bussed you other than NU?

Tictock

United States6052 Posts

December 03 2016 10:38 GMT

#1680

Here is the world where Shape/CM8/SL/Onegu are all town.

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Tictock

United States6052 Posts

December 03 2016 13:46 GMT

#1700

Got to work a bit early so got a bit of time.

SL your Shape read is totally based on his second post where he "claimed" Cop right? If you ignore that what is your read on Shape?

Kus I swear to you that it is totally NAI for him to do that.

Otherwise it sounds like you live in a world where the last 2 mafia are between Darth/Rels and myself, correct?

Tictock

United States6052 Posts

December 03 2016 17:29 GMT

#1721

On December 03 2016 23:06 Holyflare wrote:

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Last time I hosted I got yelled at for putting a replacement in past D2.

Assuming this is for CM8 I feel the modkill is warrented here.

Tictock

United States6052 Posts

December 03 2016 17:33 GMT

#1722

On December 03 2016 23:41 sicklucker wrote:
not all reads are made on meta. If shapelog does that as mafai then hes bad and should feel bad. but i doubt it

At this point I just want to call you retarded for basing your entire read based on this when it was very clearly a joke claim regardless.

I am starting to doubt you'd be this obstinate about it as mafia though.

Tictock

United States6052 Posts

December 03 2016 18:58 GMT

#1724

So?

I also find it ... well I'm not sure what word I want to use... but you ignored every other comment about your Shape read yet when HF calls you out on it you roll over.

Should have named yourself SelfservingLunatic.

Tictock

United States6052 Posts

December 03 2016 21:19 GMT

#1784

Only got ten min and a few pages behind, but I have a hard time imagining anything has happened to warrant switching from Shape.

@Gell I get the inclination to want to push on active players over inactive, and I thing wording it push instead of lynch is correct. As you already have realized it is better to lynch an inactive ? than an active scummy player. Even if this means lunching town as having an AFK slot later in the game is hard to deal with when you run low on lynches.