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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On October 21 2016 15:54 Holyflare wrote: Also i have the complete opposite reaction to all the posts bm linked to apart from one which i forget Well I mean there's a couple of things I take issue with tbh and they're the majority of his town reads. Things I like are kurumi read since that defence is wtf why, always gopd to habe pressure on me. And his ticktock read which everyone seemed to like tt's entry but i thought it was pretty bad. He talks about he doesn't want to speculate on setup and then talks about setup for the rest of his post and some useless crap about how he's going to be playing this game. And tt likes bm's forced looking post, that was really bad. Basically he's picking out things that don't make sense to pick out unless you're just aimlessly throwing reads at people. Scummy catch up is scummy. Also don't vote ptmc i think he's got towny tone and his posts aren't bad. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
You said ritoky had scummy posts but town read him because of wave and hopeless or some nonsensical shit. Now yoi town read wave you haven't updated ritoky or hoeless reads at all, why? | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
Been reading a bit when I had the chance so up to pg 36 at this point. Not much new though, way too much shit posting going on. Yea I'm looking at you Dandel... Most of your posts looks like you are shit posting for the hell of it. Smells like scum playing the "I'm too scummy to be scum" card imo. Need to catchup and possibly filter a few people like Koshi before I can feel like I have much of any read on them. I like the pressure BTDT is trying to build though. | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
On October 21 2016 00:09 Dandel Ion wrote: i he keeps being afk and we attempt to policy kill a town HF mafia stacking kp on him is benificial to our goals (aka they won't) if he doesnt thats way better if hes mafia and they protect him somehow we can just lynch him i dont see the downside tbh if everyone just basic attacks a different guy we'll never get enough damage together to flip a guy Bah I should stop posting till I've caught up, I hate having to go back on stuff I've just posted... This is actually a pretty good post from Dandel. | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
On October 21 2016 00:57 sicklucker wrote: if you control kp you also get more days and more lynches. Its super standard I have played more themed games then everyone here probably. You share information and know whats going on rather then chaos. A fist is stronger then a finger. Of course you need good leaders and good followers. and Im definitely not the man for the job Heh, I like the analogy. I agree that stacking attacks on someone is a great strat. It's silly to assume right off that mafia have something like a Bus Driver, and this is actually a great way to find out if they do. It sounds like a great way to get some info regardless of the outcome. There is one flaw in the event of a Bus Driver though that SL is overlooking (otherwise I agree with his posts) and it's that there is nothing to prevent scum from swapping a lurker for a good town so just kus someone gets swapped doesn't 100% mean they are scum. So while there are potential downfalls I think in the long run stacking some attacks is almost always going to give town more info and will put extra pressure on lurkers/scum. I'm for it. Having said that I'm sure people will target who they please for the most part, and having everyone attack one target might be a waste. So the idea of having 3-4 people as targets is prob the way to go. | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
On October 21 2016 01:40 Acrofales wrote: It's morning. Tick... tock... where are you? My sleep schedule has never been normal, and right now it's incredibly fucked up. Fear not, it just means you'll see me around at pretty much all points of the day if I live long enough. | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
On October 21 2016 03:29 beentheredonethat wrote: im not liking sicklucker That's normal. I'd bet money he is town though. | ||
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ritoky
United States6851 Posts
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Acrofales
Spain18004 Posts
He has done nothing of consequence. Scum H1 is a worse lurker than town H1, and the lurk is pretty bad in this one. On October 20 2016 09:38 Hopeless1der wrote: aww so you mean i could have just lurked and never posted and I'd have won the game?! well shit....but what about ritoky tho? pretend i said "bill" instead of "lamp" in one of my posts asking about him if that helps. Looks like a scum slip. Town doesn't win the game ever by lurking until lylo. Let's kill him. Not just because of this, but because his entire filter is a big pile of trash. Here's another gem: On October 20 2016 10:51 Hopeless1der wrote: The part where you publicly outed the "doctor". This is a heavily themed and power-heavy game btw. Except that he didn't publicly out the doctor. Relying on scum being stupid and ignorant is never going to be a winning strategy, so this is just throwing shade. After that he flip-flops on ExO_ a bit before he backpedals and soft-coaches ExO_. He then claims and fucks off for 20hrs. His re-entry is to do nothing and promise to play today. There's a chance this is all just uncertain townie trying to figure it out, but it just doesn't feel that way to me. Add that to the lurk and I really want to murder H1. Let's do it! ##vote: hopeless1der | ||
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ritoky
United States6851 Posts
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Acrofales
Spain18004 Posts
@ritoky: gogo all aboard the h1 train to scumville central! | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
On October 21 2016 05:34 ritoky wrote: town is something like: ritoky holyflare iamp btdt exo ptmc kurumi hopeless dandel wos I really dislike this list... Putting yourself on top is such a dick move. Also you put almost everyone I'm considering to be scum atm in this list. And clearly missed some obv town. | ||
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ritoky
United States6851 Posts
But seriously, please explain what in that quote is a scum slip and why. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18004 Posts
On October 21 2016 17:18 ritoky wrote: What is the scumslip? On October 20 2016 09:38 Hopeless1der wrote: aww so you mean i could have just lurked and never posted and I'd have won the game?! well shit....but what about ritoky tho? pretend i said "bill" instead of "lamp" in one of my posts asking about him if that helps. The bold bit. Town doesn't win by avoiding getting lynched, that be scum that can win that way. Town can be NK'd, or worse, left alive as that one scummy town lurker for the easy lylo mislynch. It's not evidence of scum on its own, as H1 is responding sarcastically to BM's flippant ignoring of the non-posters. But it is another drop in the bucket of of his scummy play style. | ||
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ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On October 21 2016 17:25 Acrofales wrote: The bold bit. Town doesn't win by avoiding getting lynched, that be scum that can win that way. Town can be NK'd, or worse, left alive as that one scummy town lurker for the easy lylo mislynch. It's not evidence of scum on its own, as H1 is responding sarcastically to BM's flippant ignoring of the non-posters. But it is another drop in the bucket of of his scummy play style. ..........That is so far from what I would qualify as a scum slip.... | ||
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ritoky
United States6851 Posts
Lunatic's case is pretty simple: I don't think he believes or cares very much about his reads. He has said Koshi is mafia since his first post for essentially being Koshi. But he hasn't made any real substantive push to try and convince people to get on board his Koshi lynch, he has just kind of left it sitting there passively. I don't even know the details of why he believes Koshi is mafia, but he says it so much in his filter that you would think he is tunneled. But then you read his filter and he doesn't seem tunneled at all, he isn't working to get people on board his target; I think he doesn't particularly care to lynch scum. There's something funky with his HF read, primarily with its basis being garbage. He town reads him, then flips basically because of omgus, then apparently wants to lynch HF but treats him like Koshi. HF not pushing back to the point of trying to lynch Luna over this hot trash read gives me some pause, but at least he called him likely mafia. GB is a variety of things. He is overall underwhelming thus far. He didn't show any excitement I was in the game. I don't see any of his spastic town/trying to make a play town tendencies. His just agree with HF rather than try to engage him to get a read seems off and like it may come from a place of extra information. He stated a placeholder vote, when I feel like town GB would more likely use his vote as a weapon to gauge reaction rather than literally tell me he wasn't serious about his vote. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18004 Posts
On October 21 2016 17:29 ritoky wrote: ..........That is so far from what I would qualify as a scum slip.... Actually there's precedent. I thought I remembered that, and I die. From the caverns of time, I bring you the first time I caught H1 with his hand in the cookie jar: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=16808209 Note the first part? A similarly innocuous, yet very telling look into the mind of a scummer. Let's nail this scumbag! | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On October 21 2016 16:05 Holyflare wrote: Well I mean there's a couple of things I take issue with tbh and they're the majority of his town reads. Things I like are kurumi read since that defence is wtf why, always gopd to habe pressure on me. And his ticktock read which everyone seemed to like tt's entry but i thought it was pretty bad. He talks about he doesn't want to speculate on setup and then talks about setup for the rest of his post and some useless crap about how he's going to be playing this game. And tt likes bm's forced looking post, that was really bad. Basically he's picking out things that don't make sense to pick out unless you're just aimlessly throwing reads at people. Scummy catch up is scummy. Also don't vote ptmc i think he's got towny tone and his posts aren't bad. See now you're just contradicting everything I do to be cute. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18004 Posts
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