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ptmc
Profile Joined June 2010
Finland306 Posts
October 21 2016 15:06 GMT
#1319
On October 21 2016 23:55 iamperfection wrote:
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On October 21 2016 23:50 ptmc wrote:
On October 21 2016 23:45 iamperfection wrote:
On October 21 2016 23:36 ptmc wrote:
On October 21 2016 23:31 iamperfection wrote:
On October 21 2016 23:24 ptmc wrote:
are you dire or radiant iamp?

Why do you want to know?

I have healing targeting specifically one of them, and i would like to know if you are among them. If you don't want to tell me i'll just have to try at some point.

That seems odd. But if your town and your heal only works on one faction it then would be possible scum have stuff that works like that as well. I would heal your top town regardless. if it's me and it works great. I will say I am almost positive I'm taking dmg in fact I guarantee it.


You would additionally have to move a bit tho. Can you be between #12 and #17 tonight?
I'll try to be here at deadline, but it will be tight. maybe the last 30 mins.

I ain't moving I believe


Ok. Should things get desperate with your health we can figure something out.
ptmc
Profile Joined June 2010
Finland306 Posts
October 21 2016 15:06 GMT
#1321
I'm off for now.
ptmc
Profile Joined June 2010
Finland306 Posts
October 21 2016 20:50 GMT
#1670
sup here? any quick tip to find out what's going on?
ptmc
Profile Joined June 2010
Finland306 Posts
October 22 2016 06:57 GMT
#1888
I'll be here for a very limited time only over the whole weekend, maybe some more this evening. I attacked BM and it appears to haev gone through. Has Wave done anything towny lately? And why do we dislike HF?
ptmc
Profile Joined June 2010
Finland306 Posts
October 22 2016 10:09 GMT
#1933
Posts by Wave that i like:
On October 21 2016 05:10 WaveofShadow wrote:
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On October 21 2016 04:39 Lunaticman wrote:
On October 21 2016 03:33 Holyflare wrote:
On October 21 2016 03:26 Holyflare wrote:
On October 21 2016 03:22 Dandel Ion wrote:
apparantly you're not the only one

at this point i'd be happy just finding out what his posts mean


Well it relates to Lunatic in some way right? Lunatic's filter is very scummy.

Also ritoky is definitely mafia.


Yeh, pmtc or whatever his name is pretty on point. Lunatic's read on koshi was after everyone else started calling out koshi.

Lunatic's other reads are one liners that are throwaway comments despite making a post that only important things should be posted. Then he calls me town and mafia like to do that.


Stop sheeping and undermining me, I was meta reading Koshi independently from anyone, in fact bt was sheeping my read not the other way around.

HF is obviously trying to make me look scum.

Obviously

On October 21 2016 10:27 WaveofShadow wrote:
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On October 21 2016 10:16 Bill Murray wrote:
On October 21 2016 09:22 WaveofShadow wrote:
If you're referring to the plan to stack KP, I still think that needs to happen, and I will push for it as best I can.
I think the worry about a potential PGO/bus driver/whatever/etc is silly.

In fact, I'm going to propose three town!KP targets right now that I suggest everyone with KP stack on (that doesn't have another ability they plan on using this phase).

Lord Tolkien
sicklucker
Glowingbear.

Stack your KPs on one of those three. I don't see a point in KPing the straight up non-posters because they will be replaced.

What about tictock and the other one avoiding mod kill with 1 single post

Ticktock is playing now. It's barely over 24h in, he didn't just 'avoid modkill.'

I don't want to shoot into modkill potentials because they're more likely to be replaced this early.
If it becomes a problem we can kill them going forward.

On October 21 2016 13:00 WaveofShadow wrote:
I'm sorry I legitimately couldn't help it.

Let's be real for a second here. You are being asked to do anything, anything to make yourself more useful than you have been, and somehow that's just not possible for you because you're just stuck on this one thing?

It's a little ridiculous if you think about it.

Face the fact that you're not getting what you want, and move on. I'm more than willing to have a little chat, but not for much longer 'cause its getting late.

On October 22 2016 12:04 WaveofShadow wrote:
Hopeless.
I have been a host, and having your game and hard work ruined because of mod confirms and shit like that SUCKS.
I don't want to do it to Onegu and co.
If you promise me to drop this shit I will answer you and only then.



Posts by Wave that do not further town:
On October 20 2016 11:37 WaveofShadow wrote:
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On October 20 2016 11:34 ExO_ wrote:
On October 20 2016 11:29 WaveofShadow wrote:
I'm honestly baffled anyone would think I'd come out and fully claim my role what, two hours into a heavily themed game with all sorts of shit flyin' around at any given moment?

I'm stunned speechless.
Silent, even.


So then you were literally just trolling with:

On October 20 2016 10:09 WaveofShadow wrote:
Of all of the 378 heroes in this game I find it kinda funny I got this one. It's one of very few I'm actually aware exist, and it's also strangely appropriate given my name.

Some shenans defs gons be possibles this game. Keep me alive a while, k?


You've contributed literally nothing to the thread then. I've noticed after this post and after me pointing out you're claiming dazzle you start throwing out all sorts of other hints towards other heroes trying to backaway from the idea that you were claiming.

I think you were attempting to fake claim a doctor role. And instead of trying to have a discussion with me you just keep posting trolly stuff. My conclusion from this is you are probably scum trying to fake claim, to what end though I'm not sure


I don't want to have a conversation with you.

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On October 20 2016 13:10 WaveofShadow wrote:
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On October 20 2016 13:02 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Right so, people who I haven't played with and thus don't want to bother with learning to read:

1 Tictock
5 Skynx
8 beentheredonethat
9 ExO_
10 Lunaticman
11 HamazuraXTakitsubo
12 Tubesock
16 Eversince
17 ptmc
18 Kurumiz

Please lynch someone from this list pls.

My name is WaveofShadow, and I approve this message.

On October 21 2016 02:35 WaveofShadow wrote:
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On October 21 2016 02:06 Holyflare wrote:
Wave do you think my summation of your play is wrong? You've not really done anything.

I never suggested it was wrong.
Is there a problem?

On October 21 2016 05:13 WaveofShadow wrote:
Part of me wishes I had enough time to attempt to care more about this game and attempt to take control of things because there is zero direction in this thread


And then I remember I've played like 2 games in 2 years for very good reason


Carry on everybody

On October 21 2016 05:28 WaveofShadow wrote:
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On October 21 2016 05:26 beentheredonethat wrote:
On October 21 2016 05:19 WaveofShadow wrote:
On October 21 2016 05:14 ritoky wrote:
On October 21 2016 05:13 WaveofShadow wrote:
Part of me wishes I had enough time to attempt to care more about this game and attempt to take control of things because there is zero direction in this thread


And then I remember I've played like 2 games in 2 years for very good reason


Carry on everybody


If you had the will to direct the thread to look more closely at say....4 people, at a glance who would those 4 people be?

Hey HF, is this a scum post?

Could you just answer it? This feels like you're scum, knowing that ritoky and HF are town, and you want to start a fire.

Ugh this is so baaaaad
Stop making posts like this

On October 21 2016 05:39 WaveofShadow wrote:
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On October 21 2016 05:36 Holyflare wrote:
On October 21 2016 05:19 WaveofShadow wrote:
On October 21 2016 05:14 ritoky wrote:
On October 21 2016 05:13 WaveofShadow wrote:
Part of me wishes I had enough time to attempt to care more about this game and attempt to take control of things because there is zero direction in this thread


And then I remember I've played like 2 games in 2 years for very good reason


Carry on everybody


If you had the will to direct the thread to look more closely at say....4 people, at a glance who would those 4 people be?

Hey HF, is this a scum post?


I don't indulge crappy games. Ritoky drops townreads has no real drive to lynch people properly, hedges at every point and asks questions with no real follow up and doesn't seemingly care about answers. No gifs still either.

Lynch plz.

And yet a call to engage a seemingly disinterested waveofshadow to pay attention to the game?

Fuck your meta right in the ear, good sir, because for now I'm not voting him.

Will you be around later? Like...3h ish? I want to engage with someone fun.

On October 21 2016 06:15 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2016 05:49 Holyflare wrote:
On October 21 2016 05:39 WaveofShadow wrote:
On October 21 2016 05:36 Holyflare wrote:
On October 21 2016 05:19 WaveofShadow wrote:
On October 21 2016 05:14 ritoky wrote:
On October 21 2016 05:13 WaveofShadow wrote:
Part of me wishes I had enough time to attempt to care more about this game and attempt to take control of things because there is zero direction in this thread


And then I remember I've played like 2 games in 2 years for very good reason


Carry on everybody


If you had the will to direct the thread to look more closely at say....4 people, at a glance who would those 4 people be?

Hey HF, is this a scum post?


I don't indulge crappy games. Ritoky drops townreads has no real drive to lynch people properly, hedges at every point and asks questions with no real follow up and doesn't seemingly care about answers. No gifs still either.

Lynch plz.

And yet a call to engage a seemingly disinterested waveofshadow to pay attention to the game?

Fuck your meta right in the ear, good sir, because for now I'm not voting him.

Will you be around later? Like...3h ish? I want to engage with someone fun.


It's 90% in game posts wtf are you talking about?

Aren't you calling him scum based on how different from usual his gifs and tryahrdiness and shit is? Or am I misunderstanding?

Also Kurumi why am I a cow now and not a king?

Can I be the cow king?


Mooooooooooo


Posts by Wave that i have reasons to scum-read him for:
On October 21 2016 12:27 WaveofShadow wrote:
Also why is pmtc's vote still on me?
Where has he even been?
Did he park his vote at an opportune time and leave?
gotta check


Why are you that afraid of a vote?

On October 21 2016 20:58 WaveofShadow wrote:
Lynch the above


I post a (imo decent) reads list that also explains my vote on you further, why is this the reaction?

On October 21 2016 21:00 WaveofShadow wrote:
Lol ptmc you should count your scum team there


This looks like tmi to me, but even if not, why limit my scum leans to the (presumed) amount of scum in the game?

On October 22 2016 09:41 WaveofShadow wrote:
I'm cool to lynch vivax and/or koshi tomorrow, but at some point I guess I'll come up with some ideas of my own maybe?


So now all your previous ideas are wrong? What happened to LT and GB?

On October 22 2016 10:36 WaveofShadow wrote:
Oh I get it, the ninja.
Yes.
Well.

Um I dunno, let's chat a while. It's how I do my best work (when I do any)

Important things to look at: is there anything to be learned from EoD stuff?
Who were people on, who switched to whom, when, and why?

We should sift through that.


Apparently it's not because of what they did EoD?

On October 22 2016 10:43 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2016 10:40 Hopeless1der wrote:
On October 22 2016 10:36 WaveofShadow wrote:
Oh I get it, the ninja.
Yes.
Well.

Um I dunno, let's chat a while. It's how I do my best work (when I do any)

Important things to look at: is there anything to be learned from EoD stuff?
Who were people on, who switched to whom, when, and why?

We should sift through that.

My problem is that I believe koshi more town than mafia, so the wagons are meaningless to me. The EoD stuff is therefore useless for me to analyze. I dislike HF, lunatic and acro atm. I'd like to lynch Lunatic next, and I'd like to shoot acro most atm. Notwithstanding his rosh claim early on, he basically lied about his availability and showed up to complain about a) we didnt lynch vivax and b) kp speculation type stuff.

Acro is at least posting readable content. I don't think it's an amazing idea to shoot into someone like that when we have Glowingbear, for example.

And so what if you believe koshi is more town than mafia? Do you believe Vivax is scum? If so you should probably be interested in how his train got derailed. If you think everyone under pressure was town in some way, then maybe it's in your best interested to see who spread their votes around?

Gonna read Acro.


And GB is back on the menu. What about LT?

ptmc
Profile Joined June 2010
Finland306 Posts
October 22 2016 18:38 GMT
#2122
On October 23 2016 02:18 Acrofales wrote:
Ok, been going over the damage and the claims. Biggest discrepancies so far:

Sicklucker claims he can RB AND do a basic attack. I was told I have one action per phase, and basic attacks are actions, so I call bullshit.

WoS didn't take enough damage. Claims 16 dmg. HF claims he hit for 5, LT claims 10, sicklucker claims unknown amount.

ExO_ claims he hit Koshi, but he cannot have moved to Koshi. In fact, he cannot have moved anywhere except to me.

Acro took too much damage. I took 7 dmg. Nobody claims an attack.

Koshi didn't take enough damage. Claims 12 dmg. btdt claims he did 8. ExO_ claims unknown amount (4?).

GB didn't take enough damage. Claims 6 dmg. Iamperfection claims > 6. Koshi claims 7. ritoky claims he tried, but was roleblocked.

ptmc claims he hit BM. He cannot have moved to BM, and can only have hit Hamazooka (host error is possible, because if ptmc moved to where BM was BEFORE his move, then it all works)

Questions:
@ExO_: how much do you hit for? Someone could have redirected you to me. Not sure why, but we'll figure that out later.
@ptmc: can you ask the hosts if they processed your move correctly?


Will work on reads post and it will be up before just before resolution. I am around for chats.

If you are looking for a target to shoot at tonight, I highly recommend, in order of importance:

Vivax. Kill with fire
Koshi. Disruptive scummy dirtbag.
Skynx. 100% trash filter, and seriously flying under the radar.
H1der. Scum until I say otherwise.
LT. Lurker.
GB. Lurker.
HF. Haven't figured out the TT train yet, and while the case seems sincere (if just plain wrong), there is something off about him.
Artanis. Lurker.

That should do it for now.


I don't think you know that damage is processed before movement, and movement from the bottom up? I'm where I expect myself to be after attacking BM and BM attacking Ticktock, which he claimed.

ptmc
Profile Joined June 2010
Finland306 Posts
October 22 2016 18:39 GMT
#2123
On October 23 2016 02:47 Skynx wrote:
Vigshots should go on Vivax/Sicklucker.
Prots on btdt+ptmc.


I don't need protection
ptmc
Profile Joined June 2010
Finland306 Posts
October 22 2016 18:40 GMT
#2124
On October 22 2016 21:22 Lord Tolkien wrote:
I was on my commute and posted more zzzz.

Btw mods, if you could move EOD back 1 hr that would be nice and convenient for me.


Also, wave. He says "dandel has my axe", fucks off, then comes back to make his (non-)vote on me instead of following dandel OR CONSOLIDATING ON AN ACTUAL WAGON like he couldve by looking at vote tallies for 15 seconds in the vote thread.

Either scum or super derpy and I dont know which, but he has a giant filter that mostly does nothing tbh.

I'll be at a Renn Fair rest of night phase/today so dont expect too many more updates this phase.


Holy fucking shit, a post by LT that isn't crap and that i can mostly agree on? I'll have to reread the whole game if this continues.
ptmc
Profile Joined June 2010
Finland306 Posts
October 22 2016 18:44 GMT
#2129
On October 23 2016 03:39 ptmc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2016 02:47 Skynx wrote:
Vigshots should go on Vivax/Sicklucker.
Prots on btdt+ptmc.


I don't need protection

actually, i might. Memorising stuff is not my strongest point, as it turns out.
ptmc
Profile Joined June 2010
Finland306 Posts
October 22 2016 19:04 GMT
#2135
On October 23 2016 03:52 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2016 03:50 Acrofales wrote:
On October 23 2016 03:38 ptmc wrote:
On October 23 2016 02:18 Acrofales wrote:
Ok, been going over the damage and the claims. Biggest discrepancies so far:

Sicklucker claims he can RB AND do a basic attack. I was told I have one action per phase, and basic attacks are actions, so I call bullshit.

WoS didn't take enough damage. Claims 16 dmg. HF claims he hit for 5, LT claims 10, sicklucker claims unknown amount.

ExO_ claims he hit Koshi, but he cannot have moved to Koshi. In fact, he cannot have moved anywhere except to me.

Acro took too much damage. I took 7 dmg. Nobody claims an attack.

Koshi didn't take enough damage. Claims 12 dmg. btdt claims he did 8. ExO_ claims unknown amount (4?).

GB didn't take enough damage. Claims 6 dmg. Iamperfection claims > 6. Koshi claims 7. ritoky claims he tried, but was roleblocked.

ptmc claims he hit BM. He cannot have moved to BM, and can only have hit Hamazooka (host error is possible, because if ptmc moved to where BM was BEFORE his move, then it all works)

Questions:
@ExO_: how much do you hit for? Someone could have redirected you to me. Not sure why, but we'll figure that out later.
@ptmc: can you ask the hosts if they processed your move correctly?


Will work on reads post and it will be up before just before resolution. I am around for chats.

If you are looking for a target to shoot at tonight, I highly recommend, in order of importance:

Vivax. Kill with fire
Koshi. Disruptive scummy dirtbag.
Skynx. 100% trash filter, and seriously flying under the radar.
H1der. Scum until I say otherwise.
LT. Lurker.
GB. Lurker.
HF. Haven't figured out the TT train yet, and while the case seems sincere (if just plain wrong), there is something off about him.
Artanis. Lurker.

That should do it for now.


I don't think you know that damage is processed before movement, and movement from the bottom up? I'm where I expect myself to be after attacking BM and BM attacking Ticktock, which he claimed.


Oh derp. I was resolving movement from top to bottom. Will have to redo my spreadsheet.

First on the list moves and attacks, then next one on the line etc. thats how i did it aswell.


thats wrong tho
ptmc
Profile Joined June 2010
Finland306 Posts
October 22 2016 19:29 GMT
#2161
On October 23 2016 04:13 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2016 04:12 ritoky wrote:
On October 23 2016 04:08 WaveofShadow wrote:
On October 23 2016 03:40 ptmc wrote:
On October 22 2016 21:22 Lord Tolkien wrote:
I was on my commute and posted more zzzz.

Btw mods, if you could move EOD back 1 hr that would be nice and convenient for me.


Also, wave. He says "dandel has my axe", fucks off, then comes back to make his (non-)vote on me instead of following dandel OR CONSOLIDATING ON AN ACTUAL WAGON like he couldve by looking at vote tallies for 15 seconds in the vote thread.

Either scum or super derpy and I dont know which, but he has a giant filter that mostly does nothing tbh.

I'll be at a Renn Fair rest of night phase/today so dont expect too many more updates this phase.


Holy fucking shit, a post by LT that isn't crap and that i can mostly agree on? I'll have to reread the whole game if this continues.

I already explained this.
Also Im pretty sure everyone I called scum this game immediately called me scum back.

Tolk, SL, ptmc, Btdt. Like clockwork

It's like the twilight zone


why is ptmc mafia?

He's not anymore.
I thought he was earlier in the game which set him off.


You started to scumread me for my vote on you, so its pretty hard to see how I sr you for sring me. Literally the opposite. And i guess you ignore my questions for some decent reason?
ptmc
Profile Joined June 2010
Finland306 Posts
October 23 2016 09:49 GMT
#2416
I attacked BM again, but I'm starting to feel bad about it. Him fucking up his skills two times in a row just doesn't it my image of mafia.
That's about all for me for today, gonna have more time for D2 tomorrow.
ptmc
Profile Joined June 2010
Finland306 Posts
October 24 2016 13:03 GMT
#2844
Do you have thoughts on BG and LT, Koshi?
ptmc
Profile Joined June 2010
Finland306 Posts
October 24 2016 13:17 GMT
#2852
On October 24 2016 22:13 Dandel Ion wrote:
every lurker is scum until they prove otherwise


I agree. I don't feel strongly for a Skynx-Lynch (only read his filter, did I miss a case?)
Lunatic however is still only a weird tunneling lurker, which would be a fine second lynch.

## vote lunaticman
ptmc
Profile Joined June 2010
Finland306 Posts
October 24 2016 13:22 GMT
#2856
On October 24 2016 22:11 GlowingBear wrote:
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On October 24 2016 13:56 WaveofShadow wrote:
Ok so hamazura has done legit fucking nothing.
I think due to weird 'newbie-to-the-site' statements and questions he's more likely to be town but he got just be one of those tricksy little hobbitses who knows to make himself look like that.
Hard to say for sure. I'd say pick him off at night or with KP but again, there are better targets I think.


Overall town really needs to step it up I think or we just lose to ourselves. Of all the people consistently under suspicion:

LT
GB
Hamazura
Exo
SL
Tubesock
Lunatic
and so on and so forth

If you are town,if you do not want to lose, pick up the slack and prove to us you're town.


Wave, there's a huge problem in people's suspucions on me: their suspicions are based on me being useless. It is right that effort is a town trait, but lack of effort isn't, per se, a scum trait.

You're basically calling scum every lurker.


I don't get your Iamp argument. What if he has skills that (so far) have not been useful to choose? Or he has not been certain enough to pick a strong ability, instead picking on you bit by bit so that you start playing?
ptmc
Profile Joined June 2010
Finland306 Posts
October 24 2016 13:25 GMT
#2857
and has someone collected the dire/radiant claims?
ptmc
Profile Joined June 2010
Finland306 Posts
October 24 2016 13:41 GMT
#2868
On October 24 2016 22:37 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
@those scumreading Luna please take a look at Lunatic's last game as mafia here. It's very short and doesn't really look like this one imo.


I don't think we really can compare that game to anything due to him being almost 100% scumread by a majority in the thread after his first post. I even got similar vibes of how he started here, so i don't think (that game) can clear him via meta.
Anything else we are missing?
ptmc
Profile Joined June 2010
Finland306 Posts
October 24 2016 13:47 GMT
#2873
I'd love your thoughts on Wave
ptmc
Profile Joined June 2010
Finland306 Posts
October 24 2016 13:51 GMT
#2875
I'll read SL's filter then
ptmc
Profile Joined June 2010
Finland306 Posts
October 24 2016 14:03 GMT
#2888
On October 23 2016 21:03 sicklucker wrote:
Also I recieved damage last night. (not alot very little acualy) but it was weird because I recieved it during the night stage and not the day. anyone wanna claim that damage?


Why is receiving damage in the night weird?

On October 24 2016 06:58 sicklucker wrote:
ok great my first reactions to you were you were scum mostly because of hf things. but ill play nice for now. I dont evenm really have a town circle since you morons killed on my of my town reads day 1

Im like pretty sure bill and ptmc are town like 90%. Then I have no clue really just alot of scummy people. Im going to kill some people tomorrow and it will be glorious. I think everyone's reads are bad and alot of the scum are in the active group


Why do you think BM is town?

Other than those two posts and him being sceptical of Koshi i think his filter is fine.
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