Alright so we have other claims in ritoky and Artanis. 4 3ps is just so weird but their abilities as described are so odd, specific and not completely anti-town so I'm still inclined to believe onegu opted for an ultra-weird setup.
Alright so the list still stands, shoot and/or use your abilities accordingly.
Vivax flips scum and hopefully Luna does it a bit as well which will leave us pretty well off I think.
Probably, but he is not scum because mafia did a no-lynch.
This is wrong. No lynch confirms him beyond limits of the universe.
If it is a one off ability, which i don't believe.
On October 27 2016 20:29 Dandel Ion wrote:
On October 27 2016 20:25 Skynx wrote: [quote] Oh you're one aswell? Nice nice 5v5v5v5 doto nice mod
aaaaaalmost how about u read thread, come back then oh and punch lunatic
now that sounds like a plan!
I don't follow you here. No-lynch is one off you say so it must be precious for mafia. Their motivation is to use it this early can only be explained by saving mafia members to have increased presence in the night.
That confirms Vivax as mafia.
I say no lynch is one off? No. Could it be? Maybe, but i don't think so. Any indication of Vivax' alignment from the no lynch is wifom.
If they have a regular cooldown no-lynch ability and you think using it doesn't confirm a lynch target mafia we might aswell give up this game right now...
Think simple man, no-lynch used to save the lynch target. Thats just the most logical assumption possible here not wifom.
so why would you (as mafia) not use a no-lynch mechanic as often as possible, even if the lynch is on a town?
I'm still waiting for an answer on this.
On October 28 2016 02:04 Skynx wrote:
On October 28 2016 01:57 ptmc wrote:
On October 28 2016 01:38 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Hi, sorta here but watching blizzcon. Should I switch to luna y/n?
yes, unless too many switch. Are you here EoD?
On October 28 2016 01:53 Skynx wrote: Stay on Vivax ffs. Lunatic doesn't care so he's not gona defend, Koshi should be ignored he's just trying to stir shit up.
have a free scum read
I mean I really have hard time comprehending you guys when we have confirmed scum alive and people wanna vote other wagons. On top of that I get sr when i suggest thats a bad idea.
ok, why exactly is having lunatic as a second wagon a bad idea?
1) Its not a bad idea, no-lynch benefits mafia almost always, especially D2. But first, that was not the point of that whole conversation and 2nd it is as Acro and I mentioned, most likely to be single use ability, if not we're fucked anyway and we should prolly call gg cuz they can just save Koshi/Lunatic tomorrow even if it has some phase cooldown.
2) Technically none. Its about the psychologic part of the game. When everyone votes for Vivax and he flips mafia, it means everything is going well for town and we just continue our path by lynching Koshi/Lunatic. Whats gona happen right now with 4 votes on Luna is that, Vivax gona flip mafia, some people gona accuse Lunatic voters for stupid reasons etc. and much unnecessary drama and town is gona get more lost which is exactly what mafia is aiming for.
TL;DR: everyone voting Vivax=undisputable result phase where town can simply move on to next objective.
1) The point of the discussion was that vivax is not confirmed scum because of the no lynch, and it still holds. 2) So killing Lunatic now just puts us ahead in our plan and gives a better read on Koshi. You just sound scummier by the minute, mate.
On October 28 2016 02:32 Skynx wrote: Like literally, imagine the koshi double lynch claim bs never happened, do you have any reason to doubt that no-lynch only happened to ensure Vivax survives another day?
of course the no lynch only happened so that vivax survived another day (disregarding the possible double). but how does that make vivax scum? It is just one more cycle with one more mafia either way (unless the mafia are scum read and killed off in a relatively earlier cycle because of the extra time to fuck up)
2) No, we're not killing Lunatic, we're killing Vivax. We won't getting anything out of pressuring either of them, cuz they just bullshit.
Like I dunno how you can see the bolded here... HE IS SCUM, SCUM USED ABILITY TO SAVE HIS ASS...
Final Scum might be a little more difficult. I'm not 100% on ExO, and one of the other 3p could be lying.
If it's none of those we might be in more trouble because it means someone is playing a way better game than the rest of his team, but at least we'll have plenty of time to figure it out.
2) No, we're not killing Lunatic, we're killing Vivax. We won't getting anything out of pressuring either of them, cuz they just bullshit.
Like I dunno how you can see the bolded here... HE IS SCUM, SCUM USED ABILITY TO SAVE HIS ASS...
We probably don't lose anything with having Lunatic being the second wagon. If it somehow goes no lynch again, we kill Koshi at night and then basically have the longest day 2 in TL history (due to 2 no lynches).
We get a double lynch then we are caught back up to a normal game.
2) No, we're not killing Lunatic, we're killing Vivax. We won't getting anything out of pressuring either of them, cuz they just bullshit.
Like I dunno how you can see the bolded here... HE IS SCUM, SCUM USED ABILITY TO SAVE HIS ASS...
We probably don't lose anything with having Lunatic being the second wagon. If it somehow goes no lynch again, we kill Koshi at night and then basically have the longest day 2 in TL history (due to 2 no lynches).
We get a double lynch then we are caught back up to a normal game.
Ooooooh so you guys actually still think double lynch is an option lol...
2) No, we're not killing Lunatic, we're killing Vivax. We won't getting anything out of pressuring either of them, cuz they just bullshit.
Like I dunno how you can see the bolded here... HE IS SCUM, SCUM USED ABILITY TO SAVE HIS ASS...
We probably don't lose anything with having Lunatic being the second wagon. If it somehow goes no lynch again, we kill Koshi at night and then basically have the longest day 2 in TL history (due to 2 no lynches).
We get a double lynch then we are caught back up to a normal game.
What I'm assuming is going to happen is Koshi gets role blocked so the double doesn't happen, but vivax goes through. It's annoying because we can't confirm Koshi then but he's still lower on the suspicious list for me.
There is no way in hell a no lynch is a repeatable action because it's just an auto win for scum.
2) No, we're not killing Lunatic, we're killing Vivax. We won't getting anything out of pressuring either of them, cuz they just bullshit.
Like I dunno how you can see the bolded here... HE IS SCUM, SCUM USED ABILITY TO SAVE HIS ASS...
We probably don't lose anything with having Lunatic being the second wagon. If it somehow goes no lynch again, we kill Koshi at night and then basically have the longest day 2 in TL history (due to 2 no lynches).
We get a double lynch then we are caught back up to a normal game.
Ooooooh so you guys actually still think double lynch is an option lol...
Koshi said it was. I don't see a world where he lies, and if he did, I don't see what the harm could be due to Vivax auto-lynch. I don't think it's something to spend any brain power on. Town loses nothing either way. Really gains a little bit by havign to decide a secondary.
EPT
