On October 28 2016 01:38 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Hi, sorta here but watching blizzcon. Should I switch to luna y/n?
yes, unless too many switch. Are you here EoD?
On October 28 2016 01:53 Skynx wrote: Stay on Vivax ffs. Lunatic doesn't care so he's not gona defend, Koshi should be ignored he's just trying to stir shit up.
have a free scum read
I mean I really have hard time comprehending you guys when we have confirmed scum alive and people wanna vote other wagons. On top of that I get sr when i suggest thats a bad idea.
I'll be around for EoD and switch my vote back to Vivax if shenanigans start happening. On the other hand this is a chance to confirm Koshi as town, or as a scummy liar. I think with the way the votes are right now its not a bad idea to figure out Koshi one way or another.
On October 28 2016 01:38 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Hi, sorta here but watching blizzcon. Should I switch to luna y/n?
yes, unless too many switch. Are you here EoD?
On October 28 2016 01:53 Skynx wrote: Stay on Vivax ffs. Lunatic doesn't care so he's not gona defend, Koshi should be ignored he's just trying to stir shit up.
I mean I really have hard time comprehending you guys when we have confirmed scum alive and people wanna vote other wagons. On top of that I get sr when i suggest thats a bad idea.
I'll be around for EoD and switch my vote back to Vivax if shenanigans start happening. On the other hand this is a chance to confirm Koshi as town, or as a scummy liar. I think with the way the votes are right now its not a bad idea to figure out Koshi one way or another.
I don't know why, but this gives me the heebyjeebies.
On October 28 2016 01:38 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Hi, sorta here but watching blizzcon. Should I switch to luna y/n?
yes, unless too many switch. Are you here EoD?
On October 28 2016 01:53 Skynx wrote: Stay on Vivax ffs. Lunatic doesn't care so he's not gona defend, Koshi should be ignored he's just trying to stir shit up.
I mean I really have hard time comprehending you guys when we have confirmed scum alive and people wanna vote other wagons. On top of that I get sr when i suggest thats a bad idea.
I'll be around for EoD and switch my vote back to Vivax if shenanigans start happening. On the other hand this is a chance to confirm Koshi as town, or as a scummy liar. I think with the way the votes are right now its not a bad idea to figure out Koshi one way or another.
I don't know why, but this gives me the heebyjeebies.
Why would it. Do you not want to see if Koshi is a giant liar or not, because I think he might be. This is a super easy way to prove it one way or the other.
On October 28 2016 01:38 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Hi, sorta here but watching blizzcon. Should I switch to luna y/n?
yes, unless too many switch. Are you here EoD?
On October 28 2016 01:53 Skynx wrote: Stay on Vivax ffs. Lunatic doesn't care so he's not gona defend, Koshi should be ignored he's just trying to stir shit up.
I mean I really have hard time comprehending you guys when we have confirmed scum alive and people wanna vote other wagons. On top of that I get sr when i suggest thats a bad idea.
I'll be around for EoD and switch my vote back to Vivax if shenanigans start happening. On the other hand this is a chance to confirm Koshi as town, or as a scummy liar. I think with the way the votes are right now its not a bad idea to figure out Koshi one way or another.
I don't know why, but this gives me the heebyjeebies.
Why would it. Do you not want to see if Koshi is a giant liar or not, because I think he might be. This is a super easy way to prove it one way or the other.
It wasn't there content of the message. It was something about how you said it. Overly clinical and constructed or something. Basically what my posts do to iamp and WoS...
On October 26 2016 23:26 GlowingBear wrote: [quote]
Why would town use no lynch that day? There is no town motivation to do so.
There is Mafia motivation to do so. What if both were Mafia and Koshi was saying he had a double lynxh and they would lose both players? Of course one of them or both of them are mafia
What if mafia has a no-lych and none of them are mafia? Would mafia save their cooldown?
Who cares? Vivax IS scum...
Probably, but he is not scum because mafia did a no-lynch.
This is wrong. No lynch confirms him beyond limits of the universe.
If it is a one off ability, which i don't believe.
On October 27 2016 20:29 Dandel Ion wrote:
On October 27 2016 20:25 Skynx wrote:
On October 27 2016 20:22 Dandel Ion wrote:
On October 27 2016 20:15 Skynx wrote:[...] and i think there is only one 3p.
uhm yeah about that...
Oh you're one aswell? Nice nice 5v5v5v5 doto nice mod
aaaaaalmost how about u read thread, come back then oh and punch lunatic
now that sounds like a plan!
I don't follow you here. No-lynch is one off you say so it must be precious for mafia. Their motivation is to use it this early can only be explained by saving mafia members to have increased presence in the night.
That confirms Vivax as mafia.
I say no lynch is one off? No. Could it be? Maybe, but i don't think so. Any indication of Vivax' alignment from the no lynch is wifom.
If they have a regular cooldown no-lynch ability and you think using it doesn't confirm a lynch target mafia we might aswell give up this game right now...
Think simple man, no-lynch used to save the lynch target. Thats just the most logical assumption possible here not wifom.
so why would you (as mafia) not use a no-lynch mechanic as often as possible, even if the lynch is on a town?
On October 28 2016 01:38 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Hi, sorta here but watching blizzcon. Should I switch to luna y/n?
yes, unless too many switch. Are you here EoD?
On October 28 2016 01:53 Skynx wrote: Stay on Vivax ffs. Lunatic doesn't care so he's not gona defend, Koshi should be ignored he's just trying to stir shit up.
I mean I really have hard time comprehending you guys when we have confirmed scum alive and people wanna vote other wagons. On top of that I get sr when i suggest thats a bad idea.
ok, why exactly is having lunatic as a second wagon a bad idea?
On October 28 2016 01:38 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Hi, sorta here but watching blizzcon. Should I switch to luna y/n?
yes, unless too many switch. Are you here EoD?
On October 28 2016 01:53 Skynx wrote: Stay on Vivax ffs. Lunatic doesn't care so he's not gona defend, Koshi should be ignored he's just trying to stir shit up.
I mean I really have hard time comprehending you guys when we have confirmed scum alive and people wanna vote other wagons. On top of that I get sr when i suggest thats a bad idea.
I'll be around for EoD and switch my vote back to Vivax if shenanigans start happening. On the other hand this is a chance to confirm Koshi as town, or as a scummy liar. I think with the way the votes are right now its not a bad idea to figure out Koshi one way or another.
I don't know why, but this gives me the heebyjeebies.
Why would it. Do you not want to see if Koshi is a giant liar or not, because I think he might be. This is a super easy way to prove it one way or the other.
It wasn't there content of the message. It was something about how you said it. Overly clinical and constructed or something. Basically what my posts do to iamp and WoS...
Overly clinical and constructed? lol. whatever you say
On October 28 2016 01:38 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Hi, sorta here but watching blizzcon. Should I switch to luna y/n?
yes, unless too many switch. Are you here EoD?
On October 28 2016 01:53 Skynx wrote: Stay on Vivax ffs. Lunatic doesn't care so he's not gona defend, Koshi should be ignored he's just trying to stir shit up.
I mean I really have hard time comprehending you guys when we have confirmed scum alive and people wanna vote other wagons. On top of that I get sr when i suggest thats a bad idea.
I'll be around for EoD and switch my vote back to Vivax if shenanigans start happening. On the other hand this is a chance to confirm Koshi as town, or as a scummy liar. I think with the way the votes are right now its not a bad idea to figure out Koshi one way or another.
I don't know why, but this gives me the heebyjeebies.
Why would it. Do you not want to see if Koshi is a giant liar or not, because I think he might be. This is a super easy way to prove it one way or the other.
It wasn't there content of the message. It was something about how you said it. Overly clinical and constructed or something. Basically what my posts do to iamp and WoS...
Not to mention do you think having luna as a second wagon is a bad idea? You're kinda dodging the core of what I'm saying by saying you're "spooked".
What if mafia has a no-lych and none of them are mafia? Would mafia save their cooldown?
Who cares? Vivax IS scum...
Probably, but he is not scum because mafia did a no-lynch.
This is wrong. No lynch confirms him beyond limits of the universe.
If it is a one off ability, which i don't believe.
On October 27 2016 20:29 Dandel Ion wrote:
On October 27 2016 20:25 Skynx wrote:
On October 27 2016 20:22 Dandel Ion wrote:
On October 27 2016 20:15 Skynx wrote:[...] and i think there is only one 3p.
uhm yeah about that...
Oh you're one aswell? Nice nice 5v5v5v5 doto nice mod
aaaaaalmost how about u read thread, come back then oh and punch lunatic
now that sounds like a plan!
I don't follow you here. No-lynch is one off you say so it must be precious for mafia. Their motivation is to use it this early can only be explained by saving mafia members to have increased presence in the night.
That confirms Vivax as mafia.
I say no lynch is one off? No. Could it be? Maybe, but i don't think so. Any indication of Vivax' alignment from the no lynch is wifom.
If they have a regular cooldown no-lynch ability and you think using it doesn't confirm a lynch target mafia we might aswell give up this game right now...
Think simple man, no-lynch used to save the lynch target. Thats just the most logical assumption possible here not wifom.
so why would you (as mafia) not use a no-lynch mechanic as often as possible, even if the lynch is on a town?
On October 28 2016 01:38 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Hi, sorta here but watching blizzcon. Should I switch to luna y/n?
yes, unless too many switch. Are you here EoD?
On October 28 2016 01:53 Skynx wrote: Stay on Vivax ffs. Lunatic doesn't care so he's not gona defend, Koshi should be ignored he's just trying to stir shit up.
I mean I really have hard time comprehending you guys when we have confirmed scum alive and people wanna vote other wagons. On top of that I get sr when i suggest thats a bad idea.
ok, why exactly is having lunatic as a second wagon a bad idea?
1) Its not a bad idea, no-lynch benefits mafia almost always, especially D2. But first, that was not the point of that whole conversation and 2nd it is as Acro and I mentioned, most likely to be single use ability, if not we're fucked anyway and we should prolly call gg cuz they can just save Koshi/Lunatic tomorrow even if it has some phase cooldown.
2) Technically none. Its about the psychologic part of the game. When everyone votes for Vivax and he flips mafia, it means everything is going well for town and we just continue our path by lynching Koshi/Lunatic. Whats gona happen right now with 4 votes on Luna is that, Vivax gona flip mafia, some people gona accuse Lunatic voters for stupid reasons etc. and much unnecessary drama and town is gona get more lost which is exactly what mafia is aiming for.
TL;DR: everyone voting Vivax=undisputable result phase where town can simply move on to next objective.
Like literally, imagine the koshi double lynch claim bs never happened, do you have any reason to doubt that no-lynch only happened to ensure Vivax survives another day?
"I was once the scourge of the plains, a terror on the wind. What hope do our enemies think they have?"
Alignment: Self - Third Party Assassin
Win Condition: Outlast your opponent assassin, Mirana. You do not necessarily need to kill her yourself, although we have armed you with one strongman shot specifically aimed at killing her. You are equipped with a protective vest and the ability to check for your opponent. All details below.
Faction: Radiant
Role: Carry
Main Attribute: Agility
Items: None
HP: 66/66
Basic Attack Damage: 5
Day 1 - Starting Skills:
Basic Attack
Attack a player of your choice with a basic attack.
Please submit a PM to the main host account as:
##Attack: disformation
Lunar Blessing
The Goddess of the Moon smiles upon her kin.
This ability is a passive. Lunar Blessing provides Luna with extra armour (or more specifically, a bulletproof vest). The vest is roleblockable. If Luna loses all her HP, she loses her vest. She will respawn at 30 HP.
Lucent Beam
Selemene smites those who encroach upon the Nightsilver Woods.
This ability enables you to check for your opponent. You may do this each phase, day and night. This ability may be roleblocked but not redirected. Your checks will return as “Mirana” or “not Mirana”.
Please submit a PM to the main host account as:
##Check (Mirana): <playername>
Eclipse
In times of great need, Selemene herself descends into the world, blocking out the light and hope of the opposed.
Strongman shot specifically for Mirana. This shot is not roleblockable. If used on a player who is not Mirana, it will deal 40 damage to your target instead. If dealt to Mirana, she will die, and you will also be removed from the game, having satisfied win-con. (You will also be declared as such if she is lynched, NKed, modkilled, etc.)
Note that your shot on your target will resolve instantaneously and not at resolution period.
To shoot your target, please submit a PM to the main host account:
##Eclipse: <playername>
Starting Night 1 the following ability becomes available:
Moon Glaive
Carefully sharpened, Luna's boomerang-like weapon cuts a wide swath through enemy numbers.
This ability allows Luna to toss her glaives at the two players directly above her in the playerlist. She will deal 6 damage to a player adjacent to her on the roster and 3 damage to the player two slots away from her. She may deal damage above or below her. This ability can be roleblocked, but not redirected.
Cooldown - One phase. For example if you use this ability Night 1, you cannot use it again until Night 2, in either direction.
"How long must we ride before we're summoned again to the Nightsilver Woods?"
Alignment: Self - Third Party Assassin
Win Condition: Outlast your opponent assassin, Luna. You do not necessarily need to kill her yourself, although we have armed you with one strongman shot specifically aimed at killing her. You are equipped with a protective vest and the ability to check for your opponent. All details below.
Faction: Radiant
Role: Carry
Main Attribute: Agility
Items: Sentry Ward x1
HP: 66/66
Basic Attack Damage: 5
Day 1 - Starting Skills:
Basic Attack
Attack a player of your choice with a basic attack.
Please submit a PM to the main host account as:
##Attack: disformation
Leap
Both friend and foe alike recognize Mirana's iconic white beast in the heat of battle.
This ability is a passive. Leap provides Mirana with extra armour (or more specifically, a bulletproof vest). The vest is roleblockable. If Mirana loses all her HP, she loses her vest. She will respawn at 30 HP.
Moonlight Shadow
Selemene smites those who encroach upon the Nightsilver Woods.
This ability enables to check for your opponent. You may do this each phase, day and night. This ability may be roleblocked but not redirected. Your checks will return as “Luna” or “not Luna”.
Please submit a PM to the main host account as:
##Check (Luna): <playername>
Sacred Arrow
Lunar energies make the Princess of the Moon's arrows more deadly than most.
Strongman shot specifically for Luna. This shot is not roleblockable. If used on a player who is not Luna, it will deal 40 damage to your target instead. If dealt to Luna, she will die, and you will also be removed from the game, having satisfied win-con. (You will also be declared as such if she is lynched, NKed, modkilled, etc.)
Note that your shot on your target will resolve instantaneously and not at resolution period.
To shoot your target, please submit a PM to the main host account:
##Sacred Arrow: <playername>
Starting Night 1 the following ability becomes available:
Starstorm
The Goddess breaks the strata to empower her Princess in the time of need.
This ability allows Mirana to do AoE damage to two players adjacent to her in the playerlist. She will deal 6 damage to a player adjacent to her on the roster and 3 damage to the player two slots away from her. She may deal damage above or below her. This ability can be roleblocked, but not redirected.
Cooldown - One phase. For example if you use this ability Night 1, you cannot use it again until Night 2.
Please submit a PM to the main host account as: ##Starstorm: Above or ##Starstorm: Below
On October 27 2016 00:34 Acrofales wrote: [quote] Who cares? Vivax IS scum...
Probably, but he is not scum because mafia did a no-lynch.
This is wrong. No lynch confirms him beyond limits of the universe.
If it is a one off ability, which i don't believe.
On October 27 2016 20:29 Dandel Ion wrote:
On October 27 2016 20:25 Skynx wrote:
On October 27 2016 20:22 Dandel Ion wrote: [quote] uhm yeah about that...
Oh you're one aswell? Nice nice 5v5v5v5 doto nice mod
aaaaaalmost how about u read thread, come back then oh and punch lunatic
now that sounds like a plan!
I don't follow you here. No-lynch is one off you say so it must be precious for mafia. Their motivation is to use it this early can only be explained by saving mafia members to have increased presence in the night.
That confirms Vivax as mafia.
I say no lynch is one off? No. Could it be? Maybe, but i don't think so. Any indication of Vivax' alignment from the no lynch is wifom.
If they have a regular cooldown no-lynch ability and you think using it doesn't confirm a lynch target mafia we might aswell give up this game right now...
Think simple man, no-lynch used to save the lynch target. Thats just the most logical assumption possible here not wifom.
so why would you (as mafia) not use a no-lynch mechanic as often as possible, even if the lynch is on a town?
I'm still waiting for an answer on this.
On October 28 2016 02:04 Skynx wrote:
On October 28 2016 01:57 ptmc wrote:
On October 28 2016 01:38 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Hi, sorta here but watching blizzcon. Should I switch to luna y/n?
yes, unless too many switch. Are you here EoD?
On October 28 2016 01:53 Skynx wrote: Stay on Vivax ffs. Lunatic doesn't care so he's not gona defend, Koshi should be ignored he's just trying to stir shit up.
I mean I really have hard time comprehending you guys when we have confirmed scum alive and people wanna vote other wagons. On top of that I get sr when i suggest thats a bad idea.
ok, why exactly is having lunatic as a second wagon a bad idea?
1) Its not a bad idea, no-lynch benefits mafia almost always, especially D2. But first, that was not the point of that whole conversation and 2nd it is as Acro and I mentioned, most likely to be single use ability, if not we're fucked anyway and we should prolly call gg cuz they can just save Koshi/Lunatic tomorrow even if it has some phase cooldown.
2) Technically none. Its about the psychologic part of the game. When everyone votes for Vivax and he flips mafia, it means everything is going well for town and we just continue our path by lynching Koshi/Lunatic. Whats gona happen right now with 4 votes on Luna is that, Vivax gona flip mafia, some people gona accuse Lunatic voters for stupid reasons etc. and much unnecessary drama and town is gona get more lost which is exactly what mafia is aiming for.
TL;DR: everyone voting Vivax=undisputable result phase where town can simply move on to next objective.
1) The point of the discussion was that vivax is not confirmed scum because of the no lynch, and it still holds. 2) So killing Lunatic now just puts us ahead in our plan and gives a better read on Koshi. You just sound scummier by the minute, mate.
On October 28 2016 02:32 Skynx wrote: Like literally, imagine the koshi double lynch claim bs never happened, do you have any reason to doubt that no-lynch only happened to ensure Vivax survives another day?
of course the no lynch only happened so that vivax survived another day (disregarding the possible double). but how does that make vivax scum? It is just one more cycle with one more mafia either way (unless the mafia are scum read and killed off in a relatively earlier cycle because of the extra time to fuck up)