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Ok got to pg 50 before I'm burning out.
Starting to think HF might have a point about Rit, that townlist post bothered me but even moreso in how he is refusing to engage HF but asking other people their opinion of HF's read.
Ptmc is seeming like the best lynch to me atm. I already noted some stuff, and the only thing he has brought to the table is a very poorly based meta-read on Lunatic.
Koshi I could go either way on, maybe even slightly scum reading at this point as he's mostly just defended himself and posted drivel.
Iam is still on my mind as well, but I kinda want to review his filter. Kurumi is kinda in the same boat because of the weird way he was defending HF when there was only one post from HF. I think there is almost for sure scum somewhere in Iam, Kurumi, HF, and Rit but it's kinda a mess.
Ignoring the non-posters (and a few super low volume posters) the people I mentioned here are who I am considering lynching atm. I'll make a better list when I'm actually caught up which should be in a couple hours.
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On October 21 2016 12:17 WaveofShadow wrote:
Also interesting to note Lord Tolkien is nowhere in your list.
I actually remember a game where someone forgot to include someone else in a list and it ended up being crucial somehow.
Tictoc was it you in our scum game a million years ago? I feel like it was.
Pretty sure I've never played as scum with you.
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On October 21 2016 12:38 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2016 12:35 WaveofShadow wrote:
And thoughts on ptmc now?
And exo, take a hint
I think he wants you to maybe be useful and stop focusing on me for absolutely nothing
just a thought
you know
a little advice Can we just clear it up then, why did you open the way you did? Was there a reason for fake claiming a protective role or what? Don't just be hostile and dismissive towards me, work with me a bit
I'm amazed you are still on this dude.
Like actually starting to think this is either a forced tunnel or you have literally no clue what kind of game this is.
You had to read into that initial post a fair bit to come up with "Wave is soft claiming Doc" he never really claimed. There is also so much more to read into yet you keep bringing this one thing up that tbh, you kinda fabricated yourself.
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On October 21 2016 13:03 ritoky wrote:
give a read on me
Aww Rit (initially read this as a cry for attn)
Honestly I was thinking you were solid town until I saw you put HF (and a few others, but w/e) into your town list. Given that HF has been pushing you for a pretty silly meta-reason and you basically gave no reaction to that nor did you try to engage HF about it feels really off to me.
Like if you are town then either HF is scum trying to lynch you so you push back, or you think he is mistaken town and try to talk to him. Instead you basically ignored HF and give him an easy townread?
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On October 21 2016 14:07 Lord Tolkien wrote:Wave: pls, KP can do what they want, it's a free game Show nested quote +On October 21 2016 12:19 iamperfection wrote:On October 21 2016 12:17 WaveofShadow wrote:
Also interesting to note Lord Tolkien is nowhere in your list.
I actually remember a game where someone forgot to include someone else in a list and it ended up being crucial somehow.
Tictoc was it you in our scum game a million years ago? I feel like it was. 24 Lord Tolkien- lurker but worse as what he little he has posted is trash imo. make useless list for lynch then complains about lists later LUL. might just be bad. for got to copy Pls. My list isn't there to whore for town-cred. I just don't want to bother learning new player metas, because this site is all about the meta.Which reminds me, have I actually played with you in mafia, or just dota.
This is really not true, though some players play like meta is king. Meta will actually bite you in the ass as often as it will help you.
You can't avoid using some meta because it's hard to ignore stuff that stands out with players you are experienced with. Relying on meta solely is a cop out though, and you should feel bad for limiting yourself to such shit play.
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On October 21 2016 14:13 GlowingBear wrote:
I think Holyflare might be town because he thought ritoky might be mafia for the forced funny gifs
I think Acrofales might be town, I liked his answer to me. But sometimes I don't like his answer because it felt evasive, then I think he is mafia. But that answer was genuine so he might be town
Meh
Holy shit GB playing the game?
![[image loading]](http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/2013/10/tim-and-eric-mind-blown.gif)
Err I mean, glad to see ya GB ^.^
+ Show Spoiler +I kinda hate that I have a really bad townread on you already
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On October 21 2016 14:45 ritoky wrote:
Has GB changed since I have been gone? That is not how he used to get his HF read.
Last few games I've seen GB in he has been extremely lackluster and hardly played. I guess he's all important with some RL job or w/e...
Sadly this kinda fits his townplay of late.
On October 21 2016 14:48 ritoky wrote:
To clarify, I have been mafia with him before and in the QT he says "I am going to rumble with HF, call him mafia or disagree with him cuz that's how I normally get a read on him." I have also seen him many times as town just fight with HF even if he doesn't believe it just to get his HF read.
Passively agreeing with him seems different. Leaning toward bad different.
So you think he is scum with HF?
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On October 21 2016 14:53 WaveofShadow wrote:
Oh and the best BEST part about the KP stacking plan is, I don't really think I care much if everyone is coordinated on it or not. The important part is damage claiming, and I will say right now, if you hide how much damage you take at the end of the phase, you get lynched because there is ZERO reason for town to hide that info.
(Note i say 'how much damage you took,' not how much HP you have left. Vital difference in useful info for scum/town)
It would be very nice if we could eliminate some of the unknowns/chaff with this though.
Just reposting this kus it's absolutely true. You should listen to this advice regardless of what you think about Wave's alignment.
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On October 21 2016 17:16 Acrofales wrote:Good morning. I crashed and am now awake and heading to work. Rather than pick the usual suspects, I am focusing on my acquaintances: and H1 was null in my sheet, so I opened that filter up. I think there's a good chance he's the best chance we have so far at lynching scum d1, and here's why: He has done nothing of consequence. Scum H1 is a worse lurker than town H1, and the lurk is pretty bad in this one. Show nested quote +On October 20 2016 09:38 Hopeless1der wrote:On October 20 2016 09:36 Bill Murray wrote:
Yeah well it's early not everyone has posted aww so you mean i could have just lurked and never posted and I'd have won the game?! well shit....but what about ritoky tho? pretend i said "bill" instead of "lamp" in one of my posts asking about him if that helps. Looks like a scum slip. Town doesn't win the game ever by lurking until lylo. Let's kill him. Not just because of this, but because his entire filter is a big pile of trash. Here's another gem: Show nested quote +On October 20 2016 10:51 Hopeless1der wrote:On October 20 2016 10:50 ExO_ wrote:On October 20 2016 10:48 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 20 2016 10:46 ExO_ wrote:Hello all. I hate day 1 but I'll be here. I'm ready for all the baseless analysis that always goes on. I have not really read the thread yet, but the first thing I notice is: On October 20 2016 10:09 WaveofShadow wrote:
Of all of the 378 heroes in this game I find it kinda funny I got this one. It's one of very few I'm actually aware exist, and it's also strangely appropriate given my name.
Some shenans defs gons be possibles this game. Keep me alive a while, k? For those that aren't aware he's referencing the hero dazzle, who has an ability called shadow wave. Dazzle also has an ability called shadow grave, which prevents people from dying. So to anybody who's vaguely familiar with dota, he's basically coming out immediately and claiming some form of doctor. I don't think the doc should come in and announce themselves right away. This looks hella scummy to me. Oh the irony What do you mean exactly? The part where you publicly outed the "doctor". This is a heavily themed and power-heavy game btw. Except that he didn't publicly out the doctor. Relying on scum being stupid and ignorant is never going to be a winning strategy, so this is just throwing shade. After that he flip-flops on ExO_ a bit before he backpedals and soft-coaches ExO_. He then claims and fucks off for 20hrs. His re-entry is to do nothing and promise to play today. There's a chance this is all just uncertain townie trying to figure it out, but it just doesn't feel that way to me. Add that to the lurk and I really want to murder H1. Let's do it! ##vote: hopeless1der
I don't think Hopeless ever called Exo scum, he was just pointing out the irony of Exo's initial post about Wave.
I vulgarly recall having a slight townlean on Hopeless, but I can't recall why now. I'll make a note to look at him again later.
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On October 21 2016 17:55 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2016 17:23 Tictock wrote:On October 21 2016 05:34 ritoky wrote:
town is something like:
ritoky
holyflare
iamp
btdt
exo
ptmc
kurumi
hopeless
dandel
wos I really dislike this list... Putting yourself on top is such a dick move. Also you put almost everyone I'm considering to be scum atm in this list. And clearly missed some obv town. Also, the bolded alone might make TT mafia.
Lol come at me. Not impressed that you can call yourself town.
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On October 21 2016 18:07 Vivax wrote:
Hi, don't mind me. I'm just fulfilling the minimum requirement to not get modkilled. Low priority was tough. I'm sure you already deducted from my voluminous filter that I'm obviously town.
Here's a token vote on the scummiest person in the thread:
##Vote: Vivax
FTFY
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On October 21 2016 20:14 beentheredonethat wrote:
Dandel's filter still empty and shit :/
I'm actually liking his posts more and more. He kinda reminds me of me actually if I hadn't started off super far behind, trolly for the first half of the phase but gets into it as the game goes on.
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YAY I'm caught up!
Still think ptmc is a solid lynch, but Vivax is pretty good too. Actually Vivax might be better kus he clearly picked Rels due to him only having one post which means he's at least put some effort into reading the game but that's all he's got is "lynch Rels" and easy townreads.
Speaking of Rels... not sure what to do with him. He is a pretty capable player as either alignment so him making that one throwaway post is pretty odd. Was gunna say something about expecting him to replace out if he was town and has no time to play, but then I realized that might be even more true if he was scum... Yea idk what I want to do with his slot.
Still think the stuff between Rit and HF is weird. Besides the stuff I said about Rit earlier I'm pretty inclined to townread him though, whereas nothing I've seen from HF makes me think he is town. Which brings me back to Kurumi (I think I spelled his name right) and his weird hard-on for HF. I'm not sure scum makes all those wierd list posts though.
Still want to review Iam. Everything I've seen from him is well within standard scum play imo and despite liking his posting more as time goes on I can't shake my initial impression.
LT is another person I'm considering as scum. I don't think he's really said anything other than "fuck the people I don't know" to which I respond "well fuck you too"
Oh and Koshi, can't forget Koshi. I'm really far from townreading Koshi i just want to lynch other people more... which honestly probably means Koshi is scum. Like that feeling is pretty much exactly why he's skated by his last few scum games.
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On October 21 2016 20:45 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2016 20:33 Dandel Ion wrote:
skynx, i just dunno man
he blatantly kind-of-soft-defends koshi, and it actually looks shitty enough that i think he's serious about it
i dont like that he thinks iamps filter has nothing
i dont like that his problem with tubesocks reads are that they "come out of nowhere" (#871 cant link deal w/ it), and not the content (i remind that two of the three were essentially 'exo for what other people said' and 'wave for tone'), or even the fact that they're just TRs.
i dont mind the LT read actually
i dont like the thread policing, but maybe thats meta nowadays, lots of newbies i dont reckognize do it so w/e take it or leave it.
just post way more so i can make up my mind kthx Oh man. You see, lurking works. I totally forgot that shit was in the game. Add him to the list of loonie, gb, hazbro, vivax and tubesock. Man, town lurkies need to step it up, because all of those look like shit atm, and they can't all be scum. Right?
Given recent games... they could all actually be town. For some reason town has been slacking on this site lately and handing mafia easy wins.
Still gotta deal with them somehow though which is pretty shitty if they do turn out to be town.
I feel pretty good about Hama's posts though, and possibly Tube's as well. You can still read low volume people imo, though it prob requires more effort than it's worth sometimes. Besides not posting much is there anything that actually strikes you as scummy about them?
I kinda hate to admit that I kinda read GB as town as well, it's mostly meta though so pretty shit.
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humm, need to mull over that big list post from ptmc
was actually gunna take a break here anyways.
Initial reaction is kinda meh. On the one hand that's a decent bit of effort to put that post together and track what people have been doing. On the other he's really only rating people by how "productive" they are which essentially means low posters = scum.
Ehh thats not really fair there is a bit more going on in those reads, I guess I'm just not agreeing with some of them. Will come back to this.
In the meantime, @ptmc:
Have you played on this site before? or anywhere else?
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On October 21 2016 21:05 ptmc wrote:
and do we even know how many mafia there are?
No we don't. Best guess (imo) is 2 teams of 3, but could maybe be like 4 scum, 2 "neutral" (creeps?) or something.
Given 24 players I think ~6 scum is reasonable.
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On October 21 2016 21:19 ptmc wrote:
This is my second game, i played in the last newbie game.
The reads for low content could easily change, if good content comes from those players. Anything specific you disagree with?
Holy shit, I'm not sure how I forgot you were in that game. Guess it's just been awhile.
Humm, you were a pretty easy townread in that game but not really here. Still I guess the stuff that bugged me early on makes a bit more sense now.
I'll look at your list post again later in some detail, but def don't want to lynch you anymore.
I think that list post shows you are making some decent effort and I recall you doing something like it in the last game too. Even without that I'm pretty confident you'll be really easy to read given a bit more time.
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Aww shit I've been on the phone for the past hour and now I'm confused is deadline in 10 min or an hour?
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Oh and I'm getting lynched, ok.
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On October 22 2016 04:50 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2016 04:49 Tictock wrote:
Aww shit I've been on the phone for the past hour and now I'm confused is deadline in 10 min or an hour? An hour...the votcounts have timers
Yea but I know there is an hour resolution period, wasn't sure if that was what the timers were for or if they were marking the EoD.
Well I'm over 10 pages behind and not going to scramble to read shit. Can someone direct me to the case on me, or give me the TLDR version?
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