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On October 20 2016 18:55 Dandel Ion wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2016 09:27 iamperfection wrote:On October 20 2016 09:24 Hopeless1der wrote:On October 20 2016 09:24 iamperfection wrote:On October 20 2016 09:21 Hopeless1der wrote:On October 20 2016 09:20 ritoky wrote:On October 20 2016 09:12 iamperfection wrote:On October 20 2016 09:09 ritoky wrote:On October 20 2016 09:05 iamperfection wrote:On October 20 2016 08:59 ritoky wrote: [quote]
was present, contributed nothing, did not try to advance the game, wasn't funny, fucked off. you could argue the first 2 pages of posts were all that. you must have a different first 2 pages then. you found something enlightening? not particularly, but i see some idiots claiming, and other dummies trying to be funny with varying degrees of success. then i see hopeless. I'd argue I was the most useful of the trolls, trying to set up a fight against roshan, but hey, you do you scummer. so you think he is scum just because he said you are scum? Yeah, the omgus defense...i think i was pretty transparent about it. yeah but your not good enough to use it town + Show Spoiler +now that i have A READ, i can just skip the next couple pages, kkthx
Are the people with Ls next to their name just going to come into the thread and say nothing at all other than to troll? Maybe tell me what you think about WoS entrance and behavior so far
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On October 20 2016 19:00 Dandel Ion wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2016 18:58 ExO_ wrote:On October 20 2016 18:55 Dandel Ion wrote:On October 20 2016 09:27 iamperfection wrote:On October 20 2016 09:24 Hopeless1der wrote:On October 20 2016 09:24 iamperfection wrote:On October 20 2016 09:21 Hopeless1der wrote:On October 20 2016 09:20 ritoky wrote:On October 20 2016 09:12 iamperfection wrote:On October 20 2016 09:09 ritoky wrote: [quote]
you must have a different first 2 pages then. you found something enlightening? not particularly, but i see some idiots claiming, and other dummies trying to be funny with varying degrees of success. then i see hopeless. I'd argue I was the most useful of the trolls, trying to set up a fight against roshan, but hey, you do you scummer. so you think he is scum just because he said you are scum? Yeah, the omgus defense...i think i was pretty transparent about it. yeah but your not good enough to use it town + Show Spoiler +now that i have A READ, i can just skip the next couple pages, kkthx Are the people with Ls next to their name just going to come into the thread and say nothing at all other than to troll? Maybe tell me what you think about WoS entrance and behavior so far maybe, what you gonna do about it champ?
This is the worst part about this game, the people who won't actually make any attempt to play. Like it frustrates me to no end when people just troll and somehow they get passes.
Why even play if you're just gonna sit around acting smug and mocking people. At least try to solve the game please idiot.
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On October 20 2016 19:20 beentheredonethat wrote:My vote is well put on Dandel and everyone should join me
yeah I still have a lot of questions about WoS, but right now dandel is doing nothing but trolling. I don't see how that helps town at all.
##Unvote ##Vote Dandel
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Hello all I just woke up. Civ 6 launches in 3 hours, and I'll be around until then (though I'll be sorta preparing for my stream and the big game with all the other civ streamers). I'm like 25 pages behind can somebody direct me to what I should be looking at right now?
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On October 21 2016 09:57 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2016 09:53 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 21 2016 09:50 Kurumi wrote:On October 21 2016 09:48 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 21 2016 09:37 Kurumi wrote:On October 21 2016 09:30 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 21 2016 09:28 Tictock wrote: Allright I feel a little bad I kinda wasted the first day of this game, but it wound up starting at a weird time for me so not much I could do. Should be able to sink some time in tonight and tomorrow though.
Not sure I want to say much about my role, not sure how important that info is just yet.
I did want to get my thoughts down about the setup, or my theory about the setup I guess since there really isn't much info in the OP and it's really anyone's guess.
It looks like Radient vs Dire doesn't translate to Town vs Mafia. I'd also bet that there are more than one non-town faction, mostly kus it makes the game more interesting to have a couple of small scum factions than one 5-6 person mafia team vs however many town.
Unfortunately I only have my experience from PyP to draw from, and while I'd bet that there are some broad similarities I don't want to taint my expectations too much by relating to that game. Having said that I think the general strategy of trying to stay organized and working together to determine what everyone is doing is pretty solid. What's going to be weird is that I'm not sure if mafia get standard kills as night (they probably do though) or if all deaths but the day lynch happen due to HP hitting 0.
So with all that in mind I'm going to downplay my usual strat of finding town first and then mafia from PoE and try something a little different. If I'm correct that there are multiple scum factions then mafia are harder to find due to them having their own scum hunting to do and so standard scum hunting gets a bit less reliable.
Bit of a ramble, but I felt like getting that down before getting into the game proper. Looks like I have quite a bit or reading ahead of me... not gunna promise that I get it done in one sitting but I'll make sure I get caught up tonight.
#promisesofthingstocome Great post. Besides looking quite genuine, there's nothing else to it. As to Bus Driver/PGO, just trust me Wave. I do trust you, but that's besides the point. I'm not worried that these things exist, because I'm fairly certain they do. I just don't think they'll as much of an impact as you think they will. Getting everyone to contribute KP and organize to some degree holds people accountable and at phase change we'll be able to learn some things. If you do trust me, then look at me as I am. I come to you as a trustworthy envoy, this you can comprehend but I do not come in darkness. The light shines and with it, the truth before your very eyes. Don't get me wrong, I trust you in terms of trusting that you know there are the type of roles you speak of. But as far as ACTUALLY trusting you I lost a little recently. I see absolutely no reason not to do this, even if somehow everyone's KP is deflected and doubled at the same time onto the two strongest townies (that will never happen). Hopefully you shall understand everything in time. Show nested quote +On October 21 2016 09:54 ExO_ wrote: Hello all I just woke up. Civ 6 launches in 3 hours, and I'll be around until then (though I'll be sorta preparing for my stream and the big game with all the other civ streamers). I'm like 25 pages behind can somebody direct me to what I should be looking at right now? Just take your time. You can look at my list and try to figure out how do you like my reads.
Can you explain what each emoticon in the list means, I think I have it but just so I know for sure
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On October 21 2016 10:02 WaveofShadow wrote:I mean this in the politest possible way, but that's horseshit. I WILL BE SHOOTING ONE OF THE AFOREMENTIONED PEOPLE ON MY LIST AS OF RIGHT NOW. I suggest others do the same.
Are you claiming vigi? and if you are why did you do that bullshit dazzle reference and subsequent trolling on day 1?
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On October 21 2016 10:05 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2016 10:03 ExO_ wrote:On October 21 2016 10:02 WaveofShadow wrote:Hopefully you shall understand everything in time. I mean this in the politest possible way, but that's horseshit. I WILL BE SHOOTING ONE OF THE AFOREMENTIONED PEOPLE ON MY LIST AS OF RIGHT NOW. I suggest others do the same. Are you claiming vigi? and if you are why did you do that bullshit dazzle reference and subsequent trolling on day 1? Dear lord. Exo I was over this yesterday. If that's not good enough for you, go ahead and lynch me.
I'm asking because I'm 25 pages behind on the thread. You don't have to be so hostile towards me. Are you claiming vigi then? Or what did you mean by you're shooting someone on your list?
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On October 21 2016 10:08 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2016 10:06 ExO_ wrote:On October 21 2016 10:05 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 21 2016 10:03 ExO_ wrote:On October 21 2016 10:02 WaveofShadow wrote:Hopefully you shall understand everything in time. I mean this in the politest possible way, but that's horseshit. I WILL BE SHOOTING ONE OF THE AFOREMENTIONED PEOPLE ON MY LIST AS OF RIGHT NOW. I suggest others do the same. Are you claiming vigi? and if you are why did you do that bullshit dazzle reference and subsequent trolling on day 1? Dear lord. Exo I was over this yesterday. If that's not good enough for you, go ahead and lynch me. I'm asking because I'm 25 pages behind on the thread. You don't have to be so hostile towards me. Are you claiming vigi then? Or what did you mean by you're shooting someone on your list? It's been established that most roles have a way to deal damage through their actions. I haven't known this for a long while, because I didn't read my role PM for a longer while.
Wait what exactly does this mean? I don't think I get it exactly.
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On October 21 2016 10:16 Bill Murray wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2016 09:22 WaveofShadow wrote: If you're referring to the plan to stack KP, I still think that needs to happen, and I will push for it as best I can. I think the worry about a potential PGO/bus driver/whatever/etc is silly.
In fact, I'm going to propose three town!KP targets right now that I suggest everyone with KP stack on (that doesn't have another ability they plan on using this phase).
Lord Tolkien sicklucker Glowingbear.
Stack your KPs on one of those three. I don't see a point in KPing the straight up non-posters because they will be replaced. What about tictock and the other one avoiding mod kill with 1 single post
How is somebody avoiding a mod kill?
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On October 21 2016 10:57 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2016 10:46 ExO_ wrote:Hello all. I hate day 1 but I'll be here. I'm ready for all the baseless analysis that always goes on. I have not really read the thread yet, but the first thing I notice is: On October 20 2016 10:09 WaveofShadow wrote: Of all of the 378 heroes in this game I find it kinda funny I got this one. It's one of very few I'm actually aware exist, and it's also strangely appropriate given my name.
Some shenans defs gons be possibles this game. Keep me alive a while, k? For those that aren't aware he's referencing the hero dazzle, who has an ability called shadow wave. Dazzle also has an ability called shadow grave, which prevents people from dying. So to anybody who's vaguely familiar with dota, he's basically coming out immediately and claiming some form of doctor. I don't think the doc should come in and announce themselves right away. This looks hella scummy to me. I'm really confused by this. Him really vuagly hinting that he might be a protective role is scummy, but you straight out saying he is claiming doc here and thus outing him to everyone is.... ? Actually I really doubt scum posts something like this, Exo is prob town. I'm gunna enjoy looking for scum in the reactions to this post though...
I've already explained what I thought, but in my opinion he wasn't vaguely hinting it. It seemed like he was very obviously claiming dazzle. "Shadow Wave" is about the closet thing to his name you get in dota. I'm aware not everybody knows dota well, which is why I pointed this out. In my opinion he walked into the thread and claimed doc and I wanted an explanation. I was drawing attention to it, b/c I thought it was an obvious lie, a lie that I cannot see any reason to tell.
And tbh I still have no idea why he did that. But I'm going to try to not tunnel my first read super hard based off this one thing. Especially since WoS has been more active in the thread with shit other than trolling since then....although now that I think about it the idea that he was coached to appear townie makes a lot of sense....But I'm not sure. It's really hard for me to commit to hard pushing WoS scum here because in TL because often people come in troll and I've interpreted it as scummy in the past and have been wrong on numerous occasions.
I really hate day 1. All of these meta reads on players, and people acting like they don't care as town. :/
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On October 21 2016 11:49 iamperfection wrote: TOWN iamperfection- confirmed town.
beentheredonethat- Top town. Very high activity. Extremly aggresive not trying to amke friends with anyone it seems. Try to get discussion back on track in post 524 has no problem calling out bull shit.
Dandel Ion- good actvity and i like post 705 as that was my thinking as well at the time. Seems like he trying to figure things out
WaveofShadow- i just dont think scum comes in and is losey goosey as he was in the beggining just dosent seem like a scum tactic to me. post 1016 same reaction i had. daring people to lynch him in 1031 solid town read i would say.
sicklucker- im gonna guess scum dont claim as quick as he did post 875. post 793 seems genuine to me dosent seem to care if he dies post 794.
Holyflare- calling the cordinated attack a dumb idea read townie to me. Pushing his read in a solid manner post 936. Activity seems a bit low for holyflare from what i can remember. slight town read i would say would be stronger if he had more actvity.
ritoky- i like post 943 and 955. post 904 seems geniune to me but he shouldnt do that.
Koshi- i dont fucking no i guess town. not tryhard mafia koshi at least.
HamazuraXTakitsubo- i guess town seems like a genuily confused player to the site. Possible its an act.
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Tubesock- actvity is bad and seems to be against interacting with the thread post 974 had no followup possible atrocious town
Acrofales- i dont know early on i thought town but something about his posts is just giving me a bad feeling and i cant explain it. Actvity is bad for some as capable as him null for now leaning twoards scummy might change to town if he posts spreadsheet on post 520.
Kurumi- i dont understand this kid. I dont like the way he plays i dont like his list i dont like the self post for no reason i dont even like his name. but on reread seems to be confident he wont be lynched post 1009 he might be trying to figure things out i guess. ill put as null and unvote. Noithing he does makes sense to me though.
Lunaticman- i dont fucking know
Bill Murray- i use my one person a game not to read this persons filter on him
Hopeless1der- i recind my town read he aint doing shit in my view.
Tictock- post 1015 is atrocious but willing to see what he does ill go null for now. scum and shit
ptmc- ehhh i dont know voted me for reasons??? dropped for no reason really voting wave because he is playing subotimally dosent come across right to me might be scum here.
GlowingBear- scum isnt doing anything dosent care about town posting just for sake of posting might be bad Lord Tolkien- lurker but worse as what he little he has posted is trash imo. make useless list for lynch then complains about lists later LUL. might just be bad.
Skynx- scum read. Posting stuff but does not seem in my view to be trying to kill mafia. Example post 868 throws some shade on me but does nothing with it.
ExO_- something about his tone just seems unatural to me. Post 368 for example does come across to me as genuine. Literally the only thing in his filter talks about wos and could be that thing were scum catch a mistake by town try to make it scummy and focus on it entirely. Post 420 is bad after some time brings nothing to the table and then later on just talks about wave again. votes for dandel but dosent seem interested in actually killing and talks about wave more
Eversince- lurker you can kill Vivax- lurker you can kill Rels- lurker you can kill
##unvote ##vote exo
I am directing kp twoard the lurkers or glowingbear
Yeah completely unnatural. I'm sorry I don't know how to just make meta reads and draw these conclusions like you do and instead try to post whatever comes to mind. Wave is the player I've had the strongest read on and so that's why I'm focused on him. idk what else you want from me.
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On October 21 2016 12:35 WaveofShadow wrote: And thoughts on ptmc now?
And exo, take a hint
I think he wants you to maybe be useful and stop focusing on me for absolutely nothing
just a thought
you know
a little advice
Can we just clear it up then, why did you open the way you did? Was there a reason for fake claiming a protective role or what? Don't just be hostile and dismissive towards me, work with me a bit
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On October 21 2016 12:45 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2016 12:38 ExO_ wrote:On October 21 2016 12:35 WaveofShadow wrote: And thoughts on ptmc now?
And exo, take a hint
I think he wants you to maybe be useful and stop focusing on me for absolutely nothing
just a thought
you know
a little advice Can we just clear it up then, why did you open the way you did? Was there a reason for fake claiming a protective role or what? Don't just be hostile and dismissive towards me, work with me a bit He already claimed he didn't crumb Dazzle. So whatever he was hinting at, your assumptions are wrong about what he was claiming and why he was claiming it. He also gave his reasons for claiming, which don't make a lot of sense to me, but ppl do nonsensical shit all the time. So let's climb out of the tunnel on that one post? Has WoS done anything else that you think makes him mafia? How bout other people?
Well if he wasn't crumbing dazzle, why didn't he say that immediately. That's what made it scummy to me. He made what appeared to be a fake claim, I called him out on it, and instead of just saying thats not what he meant, or he wasn't crumbing dazzle he went on a troll fest. That's not a towny move from my point of view.
As for anybody else who stands out as scummy for me so far the only person who really stood out to me was dandel and that was for his behavior more than anything else. idk I'm not good at making reads on day 1, and I think most of the reads in the thread are based on bullshit anyway. I've seen scum get lynched day 1 here on TL though, but I'm not any good at it.
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side note civ 6 in 1 minute, I'm very excited
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On October 21 2016 12:56 WaveofShadow wrote: I think I broke him guys He's incapable of doing anything else for the rest of the game
Jesus Christ why are you such an asshole? Could work with me but would rather be an ass. :/
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On October 21 2016 13:00 WaveofShadow wrote: I'm sorry I legitimately couldn't help it.
Let's be real for a second here. You are being asked to do anything, anything to make yourself more useful than you have been, and somehow that's just not possible for you because you're just stuck on this one thing?
It's a little ridiculous if you think about it.
Face the fact that you're not getting what you want, and move on. I'm more than willing to have a little chat, but not for much longer 'cause its getting late.
Your reaction is just as ridiculous, if not more so. And what do you want me to do? What player do you think is doing something so obviously scummy that I need to notice it?
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I can tell you that I liked what BM was saying, so if I'm gonna sheep anybody it'll probably be him
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On October 21 2016 13:03 ritoky wrote: give a read on me
Lean Town, but slightly. You've made some very level-headed points that I largely agree with. Particularly in regards to trying to think the way other players would about the game. But I think you could just as easily do the same thing as scum. So far you don't sound scum-motivated to me though.
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checking in briefly. Going to be playing civ 6 all day. Can someone quickly outline why lunatic is the lynch while I read his filter?
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On October 22 2016 03:11 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2016 03:07 ExO_ wrote: checking in briefly. Going to be playing civ 6 all day. Can someone quickly outline why lunatic is the lynch while I read his filter? Why are you the way you are
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