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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12969 Posts
October 26 2016 13:04 GMT
#3821
Dandel I thought we were friends
ptmc
Profile Joined June 2010
Finland306 Posts
October 26 2016 13:04 GMT
#3822
On October 23 2016 02:46 GlowingBear wrote:
Also, I remember a guy that said I was playing like my most recent town meta, which made him think I was town. I don't remember if it was Tubesock or Tictock. At first it seemed genuine but now I think it reeks TMI. If it was TT then it was genuine LOL.

On October 24 2016 10:50 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2016 10:00 Lord Tolkien wrote:
1) I would really like it if we could find a way to confirm BTDT as town, despite his flagrant filter padding. That would certainly make this game easier. The best way would be for koshi to flip scum, but he is claiming the ability to double lynch, which basically confirms him town unless we don't get a double lynch. But then again, why the would he claim the ability to double lynch when there's obviously a mafia roleblock going around. That's actually a stupid thing to do even if you're under pressure from KP, it mildly makes sense given death will cancel the ability out (because it would probably fall under "other"), but actually. This is retarded and we likely have 0 way to verify because he'll never get it off.

So Koshi, please explain your double lynch more thoroughly and tell us why you'd claim it like this or die. Today, preferably. Because it makes no sense.



2) The complete lack of defense or attempt to deflect off of Vivax at all is mildly disconcerting. Plus he's on track to be modkilled D2 so...I'm not sold on the lynch anymore.

3) I'm going to assume Dandel is Schrodinger's scummer, since I obv. cannot read him from the 1 game i played with him.

4) Is HxT just confused noob town or mafia using noob shield. idk, could just kill him today instead of Vivax because he's using noob shield excuse, and if he actually flips scum I can confirm BTDT. But then again he might also be modkilled and replaced so argh.

5) So GB. Why haven't you done anything if you aren't scum. You're always low-key when scum and super-active as town, so tell me. Why shouldn't we lynch you today?

6) Fun fact, I get unblockable/unredirectable KP with my basic attacks now. coo'.

7) The fuck is with this 3p meepo claim. It mildly makes sense, but when 1 meepo dies all meepos die. But then again they decided to classify my hero as an offlaner, lul, so. I'll rule it plausible.

8) SL claims BS. Hrm. Hmmmmmm. What town role does checking HP even serve for town as opposed to mafia, who are better able to coordinate KP to kill off town.

9) I will reverse my call to kill Kurumi for today. Mostly because I don't trust wave still and mostly because I'll give him the benefit of the doubt in re. to time constraints. Even if all he's promising to do is give fucking lists.

10) meh, I like iamp, but then again I know he's not posting mostly because we're playing DotA.


I'm off to play DotA, but I'm prob going to give NocturneMage a read tonight to figure out why the fuck mafia killed him tonight. Might've been rolechecked D1 but eh, think it's probably his filter.


If you skim my filter you'll notice I'm out of time
Also, recent meta shows that you're wrong. I don't have meta. That's a fact


Does not fit.
On October 25 2016 02:30 GlowingBear wrote:
Wtf how am I not playinf the game, I'm postibg here every couple if hours and I already gave reads I'VE got.

I'm not being useless, I'm giving bits of information every time.

I already said I think ptmc is town.
I now think Artanis is town based on meta - I don't think this is the way he plays as mafia, he is not too try hard and he is not accusing people and sticking to that argument without rethinking them. His approach on me looks pretty townie IMO.
I also think Koshi might be town, his posts seems very fluid with not so much thought put on them.

Ritoky is a question mark. He doesn't seem very interested into solving the game. Could be mafia.

Acrofales was very invested in the game, but his efforts kinda dropped. He was (or is) one of the most active players in the game, but I don't see him putting effort into actually having his targets lynched. Yes, I know Vivax is getting lynched, but I don't remember him being thoughtful about the future cycles.

Iamp may be town and I can be paranoid, but I think I have a solid argument on him being town.

I haven't read Skynx's post with much attention but I have a gut feeling he could be mafia. I can't explain why. It's a feeling.

That's all I have for now

On October 23 2016 02:44 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2016 00:11 NocturneMage wrote:
On October 22 2016 23:58 GlowingBear wrote:
Btw perfection seems townie to me


GB when you can, mind giving us your top three scum reads?
I don't have an idea where your head is at the moment.


I don't have scum reads. I've barely read the thread tbh. From times to times I come to the thread and try to get impressions from posts.

I am a bit suspicious of Ritoky because Ritoky knows how my mind as mafia works and this is definitely not how I play as Mafia. But I don't have stronger grounds on him. Nothing really stands out as scummy from his posts. His gifs gave me a bad impression in the beginning of the game, but that is very weak to form a scumread on someone.

In the other hand, Holyflare had the same impression as me, so a mindmeld occurred. That made me think Holyflare is town.

I saw a genuine post from a guy that I forgot his username. I even quoted it. And now I think iamperfection comes from a very townie POV. So there's that.


On October 24 2016 22:11 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2016 13:56 WaveofShadow wrote:
Ok so hamazura has done legit fucking nothing.
I think due to weird 'newbie-to-the-site' statements and questions he's more likely to be town but he got just be one of those tricksy little hobbitses who knows to make himself look like that.
Hard to say for sure. I'd say pick him off at night or with KP but again, there are better targets I think.


Overall town really needs to step it up I think or we just lose to ourselves. Of all the people consistently under suspicion:

LT
GB
Hamazura
Exo
SL
Tubesock
Lunatic
and so on and so forth

If you are town,if you do not want to lose, pick up the slack and prove to us you're town.


Wave, there's a huge problem in people's suspucions on me: their suspicions are based on me being useless. It is right that effort is a town trait, but lack of effort isn't, per se, a scum trait.

You're basically calling scum every lurker.


Even if he is town we are only losing numbers without him. And i for sure don't want to go to lylo with him as a possible town.

On October 25 2016 05:51 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2016 05:49 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On October 25 2016 05:49 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 25 2016 05:47 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On October 25 2016 05:44 GlowingBear wrote:
Wait, today is a double lynch?

Supposedly koshi's ability kills the second person in the tally or it deals damage based on votes or something


Oh we should definetly form a second wagon, shouldn't we?

Have you opened the vote thread at all?


Just did

Btw I'm rethinking ritoky. He may be mafia, after all. I think I'll check his fikter by the night


Never did, drops anything he (might have) had on ritoky because of Holyflares reads D1, adapts them as his own.
Anything he ever had as slightly scummy he doesn't follow up at all, just waffles on about how being useless is not AI (which it isn't per se) and how we shouldn't kill him (we should).
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
October 26 2016 13:04 GMT
#3823
friends totally choke each other to death all the time dont worry bout it
A backwards poet writes inverse.
ptmc
Profile Joined June 2010
Finland306 Posts
October 26 2016 13:05 GMT
#3824
On October 26 2016 21:46 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2016 21:45 ptmc wrote:
On October 26 2016 21:36 Koshi wrote:
ritoky claims that placing an item that he got from the hosts costed his entire turn? I find that hard to believe.

I believe him

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm ok then. That is just weird though. Why force somebody to waste a turn?


there are a lot of questions regarding balance i may or may not post at some time after the game has concluded and we can check what everyone had as possible actions.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 26 2016 13:05 GMT
#3825
On October 26 2016 22:02 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2016 21:59 WaveofShadow wrote:
On October 26 2016 21:57 Dandel Ion wrote:
On October 26 2016 21:52 Koshi wrote:
On October 26 2016 21:50 Dandel Ion wrote:
On October 26 2016 21:48 Koshi wrote:
On October 26 2016 21:46 Dandel Ion wrote:
claim he needs 10 wincons
'oops guys not quite there yet'
'nope still not quite, just do random thing X for me'
'i guess that wasn't enough! let me just kill a coulpe people'

i can see into the future.

Well, force him to claim so we can put on the bullshit detector at least.

join me in punching him
he'll sing pretty soon.

Why do you believe ritoky his claim over Artanis?

Artanis his role I can understand the mechanics.

What does ritoky do?

N1 Clone (tell the game on clone account he is 3p)
N2 Clone
N3 Clone
N4 Clone
D5 win and remove from game?


EXCITING!

i dont but he has the hp pool thing and/or some other sort of punching protection, unless he was lying about not taking damage. which i certainly wouldnt dismiss. we're prolly gonna need to lynch him at some point.

seeing as we lynch vivax today, and kurumi tomorrow, lynching him d5 if he's still in the game is fine
so we punch the other one.
ez

Well or lunaticman.
I think our KP is better served on GB/other scummers though.

gb should be super low by now yeah?

whynotboth.jpg

Troof.
Would be nice if SL told us how much HP he has left.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
October 26 2016 13:08 GMT
#3826
on gb, farily certain ive said this before but it's basically hyper scummy how he explains just about all his reads either by 'HF said so' (after n1) or 'btnd said so' (after n2) and doesnt do anything of his own.

so yeah we can murderize the man and prolly flip him soonish, while i heroically lead the expedition to slay the snaketanis.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 26 2016 13:09 GMT
#3827
Random thought:
Is there anything we can learn from vivax's filter? He did post a little before end of D1. And I know it's scum and unflipped association and whatnot but I'm curious.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
October 26 2016 13:09 GMT
#3828
free signups, so much freedom in fact you dont even need to sign up. just join in fisting his face
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
October 26 2016 13:09 GMT
#3829
On October 26 2016 22:09 WaveofShadow wrote:
Random thought:
Is there anything we can learn from vivax's filter? He did post a little before end of D1. And I know it's scum and unflipped association and whatnot but I'm curious.

he did barely enough to save himself and that was all on TT, everything apart from that is wifom to be ignored.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12969 Posts
October 26 2016 13:09 GMT
#3830
On October 26 2016 22:08 Dandel Ion wrote:
on gb, farily certain ive said this before but it's basically hyper scummy how he explains just about all his reads either by 'HF said so' (after n1) or 'btnd said so' (after n2) and doesnt do anything of his own.

so yeah we can murderize the man and prolly flip him soonish, while i heroically lead the expedition to slay the snaketanis.

I may have to murder you if you annoy me too much.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 26 2016 13:11 GMT
#3831
On October 26 2016 22:00 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2016 21:59 Koshi wrote:
On October 26 2016 07:07 ritoky wrote:
This town is such a trainwreck that they are probably going to lose before I can complete my win condition, so I sacrificed a night of cloning to use this sentry ward that I somehow got. Koshi should have been a prime target for information but people are mind-bogglingly dumb I suppose.

Unless there is also a 3p vendor in the game it is the hosts.

Oh you were right he did 'just get it.'
that is weird.


I'm still not concerning myself with 3P claims over sure scum yet.

Ignoring them is bad play. Look at iamp in Palmar Themed game.
Pressure them hard and learn everything they can do or kill them.
Then they are forced to claim everything or play against their wincon.
I had a good night of sleep.
ptmc
Profile Joined June 2010
Finland306 Posts
October 26 2016 13:11 GMT
#3832
It might even give you your wincon? Why did you not do it without any claims straightaway?
ptmc
Profile Joined June 2010
Finland306 Posts
October 26 2016 13:12 GMT
#3833
ebwop: #3832 was @ artanis
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 26 2016 13:12 GMT
#3834
On October 26 2016 22:08 Dandel Ion wrote:
on gb, farily certain ive said this before but it's basically hyper scummy how he explains just about all his reads either by 'HF said so' (after n1) or 'btnd said so' (after n2) and doesnt do anything of his own.

so yeah we can murderize the man and prolly flip him soonish, while i heroically lead the expedition to slay the snaketanis.

The most fun one of those is the one he tried to use on me last night where he called me scum 'cause HF said so' after quoting a post he originally called me town for.

But yes. The glowing bear will glow no more.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 26 2016 13:12 GMT
#3835
On October 26 2016 22:09 WaveofShadow wrote:
Random thought:
Is there anything we can learn from vivax's filter? He did post a little before end of D1. And I know it's scum and unflipped association and whatnot but I'm curious.

We could, but we could also use this time to focus on 3p and do that tomorrow. 96 hours left in that day as well.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 26 2016 13:12 GMT
#3836
When I say 96 I meant 72. N3 + D4
I had a good night of sleep.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12969 Posts
October 26 2016 13:13 GMT
#3837
On October 26 2016 22:11 ptmc wrote:
It might even give you your wincon? Why did you not do it without any claims straightaway?

Are you talking about me killing Dandel? I didn't even know he was low hp until recently. I also prefer killing people I think are more likely to be mafia to prolong the game.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 26 2016 13:13 GMT
#3838
On October 26 2016 22:09 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2016 22:08 Dandel Ion wrote:
on gb, farily certain ive said this before but it's basically hyper scummy how he explains just about all his reads either by 'HF said so' (after n1) or 'btnd said so' (after n2) and doesnt do anything of his own.

so yeah we can murderize the man and prolly flip him soonish, while i heroically lead the expedition to slay the snaketanis.

I may have to murder you if you annoy me too much.

I mean, you do that and we just flat out kill you since you'll be working against us.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12969 Posts
October 26 2016 13:14 GMT
#3839
On October 26 2016 22:13 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2016 22:09 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On October 26 2016 22:08 Dandel Ion wrote:
on gb, farily certain ive said this before but it's basically hyper scummy how he explains just about all his reads either by 'HF said so' (after n1) or 'btnd said so' (after n2) and doesnt do anything of his own.

so yeah we can murderize the man and prolly flip him soonish, while i heroically lead the expedition to slay the snaketanis.

I may have to murder you if you annoy me too much.

I mean, you do that and we just flat out kill you since you'll be working against us.

You can't really blame me for killing people that are shooting me though.
Will be targetting GB today, don't worry.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 26 2016 13:15 GMT
#3840
I should mention:
There is a chance the thing I did last night could have been...messed with(?)

If GB just lays down and dies I'm totally cool with it, but if he ever decides to come back to attempt to un-nail himself from the wall I'll need him to claim everything he did and everything that as done to him that he knows of.

And hell, even IF he does that he still looks like shit so I don't even know if that saves him haha
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