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Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12084 Posts
October 24 2016 22:45 GMT
#3181
On October 25 2016 07:44 beentheredonethat wrote:
To make things easier, I'll put WoS on the townpile nevertheless. If sicklucker and WoS are scum together, this is the sickest claim I've seen so far.

I mean, SL attacked WoS D1 with me so it'd be super ballsy of him to do so.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12084 Posts
October 24 2016 22:46 GMT
#3182
I did indeed attack GB.

My KP is unRBable/redirectable now so it had to have hit.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
October 24 2016 22:47 GMT
#3183
On October 25 2016 07:43 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2016 07:41 beentheredonethat wrote:
On October 25 2016 07:40 Koshi wrote:
On October 25 2016 07:37 sicklucker wrote:
On October 25 2016 07:36 Acrofales wrote:
On October 25 2016 07:09 iamperfection wrote:
On October 25 2016 07:08 Acrofales wrote:
On October 25 2016 07:06 iamperfection wrote:
Why do you think koshi should go first?

Because the guy who uses the ability is 100% certainly scum. The guy he is saving is only 99.99% certainly scum.

Like what are you talking about how do you know koshis ability didn't work or just wasn't blocked?

Koshi promises double lynch. Instead we get no lynch. I don't believe in coincidences. Moreover, Koshi claimed it did damage equal to the number 2 for votes on the player, and claimed it needed 6 to 7 votes to kill someone (so presumably 10 damage per vote?). 80 damage is a lot, so lunatic should be dead, regardless of whether the "lynch" failed. Koshi is not in here acting surprised. He's in here acting mock outraged.

Lynch the shit out of the fucker.


I mean I predicted this shit btw. Hate to say I told you so... Even if hes town he claimed it like a derp so of course mafias gonna stop it. If he was really town he should have kept him mouth shut unless he was the garanteed second lynch. but he claimed it for no reason

How can I know there is a role that removes all votes in the game? Like... Dafuq.

More important, how can you exactly know that this role removes all votes and doesn't just say "votes don't count, nolynch it is"?

..................................... It was a wild guess. I don't know why the fuck. But I know night came early and there were no votes. That I know.

Thing is - the nolynch was scum indicated, right? At least we assume so. So if scum can indeed enforce a no-lynch, it would be the balance counter to the double lynch ability that Koshi claims to have.

I'm inclined to believe that Koshi is town. Only other possibility would be that he made up the "I can lynch twice" thing completely from scratch - OR he can do it, and it's a scum ability. If he made it up - okay, you got me, wp. If he's scum with that ability - imbalanced af game.
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
October 24 2016 22:47 GMT
#3184
i attacked tubesock, that's why i moved.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
October 24 2016 22:48 GMT
#3185
On October 25 2016 07:41 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2016 07:36 sicklucker wrote:
On October 25 2016 07:34 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On October 25 2016 07:24 sicklucker wrote:
huh ya I tottaly gave you a post modifier you and gb. Its not single target I had to use it on both of you. im a little disapionted mods tell you not to post tho. nothing about that in my role description

Are you confirming that you hit Wave with whatever post-count limiter you used?


yes? not i didnt read the last 12 hours + of messages so if hes confirmed town and I did that im sorry. But I think hes mafia

...WHO CARES IF HES MAFIA, IF HES POSTING IT'S GOOD FOR TOWN ANYWAYS BECAUSE WE GET MORE SHIT TO FIGURE HIM OUT WITH.

And why the FUCK would town even have a post-count limiting ability. WHY. THAT MAKES NO SENSE.

I kind of want to kill sicklucker because it sounds super scummy.




Also, small DotA hero meta reading, but the NS is also probably the RBer for the mafia team (silence=RB seems about right).


so my role says it does x damage for every post over 10. MY ROLE DOES NOT SAY MODS WILL TELL THEM. I did my ability 100% expecting them to die. Not to restrict there posts.

Let me reinterate KNOW WHERE IN MY ROLE DOES IT SAY THEY ARE NOTIFIED.

So I assumed they would just die 100% of the time
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12084 Posts
October 24 2016 22:49 GMT
#3186
On October 25 2016 07:41 Dandel Ion wrote:
side by side to make it easier for me
1 Bill Murray
2 ptmc
3 Rels replaced by Artanis[Xp]
4 Dandel Ion
5 Koshi
6 iamperfection
7 Skynx
8 beentheredonethat
9 Lunaticman
10HamazuraXTakitsubo
11 Koroko
12 ExO_
13Acrofales
14Kurumi
15Hopeless1der
16 ritoky
17 Vivax
18 Tubesock
19 GlowingBear
20 sicklucker
21 WaveofShadow
22 Lord Tolkien


1 Bill Murray
2 Rels replaced by Artanis[Xp]
3 Koshi
4 iamperfection
5 Skynx
6 beentheredonethat
7 Lunaticman
8 HamazuraXTakitsubo
9 Dandel Ion
10 Koroko
11 ExO_
12 Acrofales
13 Kurumi
14 Hopeless1der
15 Vivax
16 ritoky
17 Tubesock
18 ptmc
19 GlowingBear
20 Lord Tolkien
21 sicklucker
22 WaveofShadow

Do we have a record of D1/N1/D2 changes too? I didn't have time to look at N1-D2 movements.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
October 24 2016 22:50 GMT
#3187
On October 25 2016 07:44 Lord Tolkien wrote:
There are two possibilities:

1) Koshi is town and was derp enough to reveal the double lynch because WHY NOT, they can't possibly stop the ability (I'm going to assume because it's actually non-RBable). In which case it makes sense...until he gets blindsided by NO LYNCH HUEHUE.

2) Koshi is scum and was fake claiming it to kill D2 town discussion and turn all ire on him.


At this point I'm leaning towards 1). Doesn't make sense from a self-preservation standpoint for him to be scum and fake claim the double lynch. Wouldn't do anything but draw attention to him.


I'm inclined to say he's town now.


the more ithink about it hes probably just an idiot. we should direct are kp towards the vivax for now
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18445 Posts
October 24 2016 22:50 GMT
#3188
On October 25 2016 07:44 Lord Tolkien wrote:
There are two possibilities:

1) Koshi is town and was derp enough to reveal the double lynch because WHY NOT, they can't possibly stop the ability (I'm going to assume because it's actually non-RBable). In which case it makes sense...until he gets blindsided by NO LYNCH HUEHUE.

2) Koshi is scum and was fake claiming it to kill D2 town discussion and turn all ire on him.


At this point I'm leaning towards 1). Doesn't make sense from a self-preservation standpoint for him to be scum and fake claim the double lynch. Wouldn't do anything but draw attention to him.


I'm inclined to say he's town now.

He was going to be lynched anyway, and it's possible the ability had some weird condition that he had to convince town to go along with.
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12084 Posts
October 24 2016 22:51 GMT
#3189
On October 25 2016 07:48 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2016 07:41 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On October 25 2016 07:36 sicklucker wrote:
On October 25 2016 07:34 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On October 25 2016 07:24 sicklucker wrote:
huh ya I tottaly gave you a post modifier you and gb. Its not single target I had to use it on both of you. im a little disapionted mods tell you not to post tho. nothing about that in my role description

Are you confirming that you hit Wave with whatever post-count limiter you used?


yes? not i didnt read the last 12 hours + of messages so if hes confirmed town and I did that im sorry. But I think hes mafia

...WHO CARES IF HES MAFIA, IF HES POSTING IT'S GOOD FOR TOWN ANYWAYS BECAUSE WE GET MORE SHIT TO FIGURE HIM OUT WITH.

And why the FUCK would town even have a post-count limiting ability. WHY. THAT MAKES NO SENSE.

I kind of want to kill sicklucker because it sounds super scummy.




Also, small DotA hero meta reading, but the NS is also probably the RBer for the mafia team (silence=RB seems about right).


so my role says it does x damage for every post over 10. MY ROLE DOES NOT SAY MODS WILL TELL THEM. I did my ability 100% expecting them to die. Not to restrict there posts.

Let me reinterate KNOW WHERE IN MY ROLE DOES IT SAY THEY ARE NOTIFIED.

So I assumed they would just die 100% of the time

So you're saying Rupture lasts the ENTIRE GAME?

Dafuq
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
October 24 2016 22:51 GMT
#3190
So theres two ways to go with gb since hes got so low hp hes always going to die this game scum or town. ( i can detect his hp)

We can waste more kp on him or we can ask him to spam the thread so he dies from my ability :D . If hes town he should probably kill himself because if he does not hes wasting more town kp apparently
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
October 24 2016 22:51 GMT
#3191
On October 25 2016 07:49 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2016 07:41 Dandel Ion wrote:
side by side to make it easier for me
1 Bill Murray
2 ptmc
3 Rels replaced by Artanis[Xp]
4 Dandel Ion
5 Koshi
6 iamperfection
7 Skynx
8 beentheredonethat
9 Lunaticman
10HamazuraXTakitsubo
11 Koroko
12 ExO_
13Acrofales
14Kurumi
15Hopeless1der
16 ritoky
17 Vivax
18 Tubesock
19 GlowingBear
20 sicklucker
21 WaveofShadow
22 Lord Tolkien


1 Bill Murray
2 Rels replaced by Artanis[Xp]
3 Koshi
4 iamperfection
5 Skynx
6 beentheredonethat
7 Lunaticman
8 HamazuraXTakitsubo
9 Dandel Ion
10 Koroko
11 ExO_
12 Acrofales
13 Kurumi
14 Hopeless1der
15 Vivax
16 ritoky
17 Tubesock
18 ptmc
19 GlowingBear
20 Lord Tolkien
21 sicklucker
22 WaveofShadow

Do we have a record of D1/N1/D2 changes too? I didn't have time to look at N1-D2 movements.

apart from d1 list which i forgot, they're in my filter.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12084 Posts
October 24 2016 22:52 GMT
#3192
On October 25 2016 07:50 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2016 07:44 Lord Tolkien wrote:
There are two possibilities:

1) Koshi is town and was derp enough to reveal the double lynch because WHY NOT, they can't possibly stop the ability (I'm going to assume because it's actually non-RBable). In which case it makes sense...until he gets blindsided by NO LYNCH HUEHUE.

2) Koshi is scum and was fake claiming it to kill D2 town discussion and turn all ire on him.


At this point I'm leaning towards 1). Doesn't make sense from a self-preservation standpoint for him to be scum and fake claim the double lynch. Wouldn't do anything but draw attention to him.


I'm inclined to say he's town now.

He was going to be lynched anyway, and it's possible the ability had some weird condition that he had to convince town to go along with.

Why would NS ulti need conditionals. It's literally "press button, now night".

I suppose that's also possible but lololol.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
October 24 2016 22:52 GMT
#3193
On October 25 2016 07:51 sicklucker wrote:
So theres two ways to go with gb since hes got so low hp hes always going to die this game scum or town. ( i can detect his hp)

We can waste more kp on him or we can ask him to spam the thread so he dies from my ability :D . If hes town he should probably kill himself because if he does not hes wasting more town kp apparently

so you postrestricted them AND got an hp check off?
A backwards poet writes inverse.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
October 24 2016 22:53 GMT
#3194
On October 25 2016 07:48 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2016 07:41 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On October 25 2016 07:36 sicklucker wrote:
On October 25 2016 07:34 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On October 25 2016 07:24 sicklucker wrote:
huh ya I tottaly gave you a post modifier you and gb. Its not single target I had to use it on both of you. im a little disapionted mods tell you not to post tho. nothing about that in my role description

Are you confirming that you hit Wave with whatever post-count limiter you used?


yes? not i didnt read the last 12 hours + of messages so if hes confirmed town and I did that im sorry. But I think hes mafia

...WHO CARES IF HES MAFIA, IF HES POSTING IT'S GOOD FOR TOWN ANYWAYS BECAUSE WE GET MORE SHIT TO FIGURE HIM OUT WITH.

And why the FUCK would town even have a post-count limiting ability. WHY. THAT MAKES NO SENSE.

I kind of want to kill sicklucker because it sounds super scummy.




Also, small DotA hero meta reading, but the NS is also probably the RBer for the mafia team (silence=RB seems about right).


so my role says it does x damage for every post over 10. MY ROLE DOES NOT SAY MODS WILL TELL THEM. I did my ability 100% expecting them to die. Not to restrict there posts.

Let me reinterate KNOW WHERE IN MY ROLE DOES IT SAY THEY ARE NOTIFIED.

So I assumed they would just die 100% of the time


so wait....not only is your ability anti-town in that it limits the ability of players to post, but you intended to use it to silently murder 2 people who would have had no idea why they are dying.....
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12084 Posts
October 24 2016 22:53 GMT
#3195
I think for sanity's sake we should all pour our KP onto Vivax so we at least know what the flip would be. Or lunatic, we can put it to a vote.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
October 24 2016 22:53 GMT
#3196
sigh

0 damage received
all i can give you, sadly
and im going to do something nice
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beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
October 24 2016 22:53 GMT
#3197
On October 25 2016 07:45 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2016 07:44 beentheredonethat wrote:
To make things easier, I'll put WoS on the townpile nevertheless. If sicklucker and WoS are scum together, this is the sickest claim I've seen so far.

I mean, SL attacked WoS D1 with me so it'd be super ballsy of him to do so.

Good point. Still, the fact that SL attacked WoS and "abilitied" him doesn't make WoS town.

But it makes WoS likely town, especially with the claim he absolutely did not have to do.

Let me update my reads.

beentheredonethat
Koshi
sicklucker


Vivax
Lunaticman
HamazuraXTakitsubo



1 Bill Murray
2 Artanis[Xp]
4 iamperfection
5 Skynx
9 Dandel Ion
10 Koroko
11 ExO_
12 Acrofales
13 Kurumi
14 Hopeless1der
15 ritoky
17 Tubesock
19 GlowingBear
20 Lord Tolkien
21 sicklucker
22 WaveofShadow


Yes, some townreads moved off my town list.
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12084 Posts
October 24 2016 22:53 GMT
#3198
Or sicklucker, I vote we kill sicklucker.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
October 24 2016 22:54 GMT
#3199
Actually, Acro is still town.
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12084 Posts
October 24 2016 22:55 GMT
#3200
On October 25 2016 07:53 Kurumi wrote:
sigh

0 damage received
all i can give you, sadly
and im going to do something nice

I was going to KP you, but I figured I'd rather bet on a lynch.

So GB because why not.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
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