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Btw, you can call me nostradamus later, but here's what's going to happen today:
I'm going to rally some people to my side. Some stragglers and tunnelers are going to remain on the other side.
Marv is going to rescind his scumread on me and scite my posting today, but he's going to look for another easy lynch
JAT is going to be the alternative wagon, it should be marv, but it's easier to convince people to lynch JAT
I'm not going to be around tomorrow to drive the wagon, so the thread will be taken over by mafia.
In some fit of confusion, we're going to end up lynching some low hanging afk fruit, like stutters, damdred, grack. That person is 100% going to flip town and everyone will be mad.
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On October 07 2016 19:12 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2016 19:06 Palmar wrote:On October 07 2016 18:57 Calix wrote:On October 07 2016 18:46 Palmar wrote:
It jives rather well with what I've been thinking about this game.
Batsnacks sounded like a townie
Oats sounds like a townie
NU sounds like a special snowflake
Grack is not as funny as I would've thought he should be, but I do like him nonetheless, for now.
Superbia is being an ass, but he does that all the time as all alignments, don't think he's been overtly scummy. One of the big milestones today is going to be whether or not he realizes what is up. If he doesn't, he needs to be dropped very low on everyone's lists when I flip town. Superbia is smart, knows me well, and a good player in general. If he votes for me when I'm town, that's super concerning.
Damdred and Stutters are players I have completely ignored.
Marv is going to drop his vote on me. If he actually stays he's 100% mafia. He reads me better than any player in the history of TL mafia, he has basically a 100% rate on figuring my alignment by day 2 when he's town. If I ever flip town, and he is still calling me mafia, he is scum. there is NO WAY AROUND IT. Thing is, I also know that he knows exactly this. He CAN'T be wrong on me, so I know he's going to end up drop his vote on me today. Depending on whether I believe the reasoning there's a tiny chance I'm wrong. But the NK, his play, his lack of enthusiasm for some things and just some tonally weird things, all point to marv-mafia. Not to mention, both HF and I picked up a townie vibe from batsnacks, and marv completely failed to recognize it. He is better at town than both of us, and that is super concerning.
JAT/Koshi/Calix <--- Three strong players who have been atrociously wrong throughout the game. There is definitely town in this group, probably even two. Whichever ones of you are town need to pull head out of asses and start playing reasonably. It is very likely that one of the townies is Koshi, because him tunneling stupid things is kind of what he does as town, the other two are slightly better so who knows.
Regarding Calix specifically, my day 1 read of her is mostly tonal. She felt very analytical and willing to try to solve the game when she was town in the last game I was with her. This contrasts her more timid and reserved tone here. I am also slightly suspicious of how she could read me so well on day 1 (against all odds she was calling me town) and then dropped it with some complete bullshit reasoning on n1, that is worrying. This is the first time I've seen you wall-post ever. And the first half of your reads list isn't complete shite. You've finally managed to cross that extremely low threshold set for you. Marv isn't mafia, go focus your efforts somewhere else instead of being a moron because of META. Maybe on Stutters-Scott/ Damdred instead. I'm insulted that you think I'm on the same level as JAT based purely on ONE GAME. That's not even meta, that's just a random fucking game. You continued to be useless and pretty much everyone else looks more townie than you due to said uselessness and two of my scum-reads were wrong, so I decided "well fuck him anyway" and now you're being slightly less useless so who knows. I don't think you understand the Marv/Palmar dynamic. Everyone here will back me up in saying that it's super, super important. For now, until marv comes back and actually sounds like a rational human being, he MUST be mafia. There is no way around it. This is not normal "these guys know each other". Being on same level as jat + Show Spoiler [Jat don't read this] +is actually a compliment. I am good at mafia, I can tell who has potential in mafia, who is capable of leading, who is capable of communicating, I'm the #1 proponent of the three objectives, the least important of which is finding mafia . I am not useless, I'm just not a volume poster. I have stated my reasons for everything along the way. Also, everyone knows that the time I can spend on playing mafia tends to vary a bit, and that I don't really care. I can use my reads to ascertain alignments and reconsider in light of new evidence. I'm not the slightest bit inclined to give a shit about dynamics, much like nobody should give a fuck about how NU/ myself read each other. You have a weird way of complimenting people then. I wasn't criticising how you were posting although I can see how I gave you that impression, more like what you were posting. I can vote JAT with you. Sure, why not?
As I said, I know JAT very well, I know Damdred, superbia, Oats, HF, Koshi all very, very well, probably most of the other people in this game I know very well. I wouldn't dream of using a dynamic argument like this on anyone but marv, and marv only. The only other person in history of TL mafia I've had a dynamic like this with is syllogism. The difference is that I've talked to both these guys for hours upon hours about mafia, reading, dynamics etc.
This is not a normal "I know that guy". This has basically an insanely long track record of never failing. Can someone from TL please back me up on this.
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On October 07 2016 19:16 Palmar wrote:
Btw, you can call me nostradamus later, but here's what's going to happen today:
I'm going to rally some people to my side. Some stragglers and tunnelers are going to remain on the other side.
Marv is going to rescind his scumread on me and scite my posting today, but he's going to look for another easy lynch
JAT is going to be the alternative wagon, it should be marv, but it's easier to convince people to lynch JAT
I'm not going to be around tomorrow to drive the wagon, so the thread will be taken over by mafia.
In some fit of confusion, we're going to end up lynching some low hanging afk fruit, like stutters, damdred, grack. That person is 100% going to flip town and everyone will be mad.
The only way to avoid this, is if someone else, (Calix? Superbia?) takes the mantle of leadership and whips this town into shape. It's going to be really tough, but it's what needs to be done.
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On October 07 2016 19:16 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2016 19:14 Calix wrote:On October 07 2016 19:13 justanothertownie wrote:On October 07 2016 19:09 Calix wrote:On October 07 2016 19:06 justanothertownie wrote:On October 07 2016 19:03 Calix wrote:On October 07 2016 19:00 justanothertownie wrote:On October 07 2016 18:59 Calix wrote:On October 07 2016 18:52 justanothertownie wrote:On October 07 2016 18:50 Calix wrote:
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Eww gross post.
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Eww another gross post.
Why would me being "passive compared to NU" mean anything? You're not actually accusing me of being passive in general, so your comment is meaningless.
You're not accusing me of being mafia. You just FELT the need to make a comment saying that I'm less townie than NU...but you don't think it makes me scum so again, this comment is meaningless.
What the fuck was the point? All you said was "Calix is less townie than NU" but you don't think I'm mafia either so it looks like you just posted some bullshit for the sake of posting it. The point was very simple. People (oats I think) called your shitfight obviously TvT. I disagree with that - this should not be a reason to townread you. Okay so you were just discrediting a town-read that Oats had even though you don't scum-read me either. Good to know. I did not say that either. You are somewhere between low end of null and scum. Haven't made up my mind yet. Duh, obviously you're not going to directly say that. You saw someone give out a town-read. Your first response was to attack the town-read even though you claim you don't scum-read me either. Your reasoning is that I'm "less townie than NU" (lol) This reads like scum rationale over a townie mindset. Are you intentionally misrepresenting me or just bad at reading? I saw someone throw out a reason to townread you which I think is faulty. I mentioned that. The end. Never said that I scumread you in this context or any of the other stuff you are saying right now. My only message was that the shitfight should be treated as NAI regarding you. Keep proving my point, lol. Why don't you case me and I case you if I'm 'null-scum'? Sound fair? I will case you whenever I think I need to which is not right now since I am not trying to lynch you. Since you seem to be trying to lynch me you should probably case me if you can though. So go ahead. If you're not trying to lynch me then who are you trying to lynch? And if you're not trying to lynch anyone then what are you doing again? I am lynching Palmar right now and have said that and also voted him for ages. That should be pretty obvious. I would love to keep listening to your bullshit but unfortunately I have to work now.
Why are you trying to lynch a townread?
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On October 07 2016 19:20 Calix wrote:
Palmar, maybe try voting yourself first? lol
done
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On October 07 2016 19:20 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2016 18:43 justanothertownie wrote:On October 07 2016 17:58 Oatsmaster wrote:
jat has posted absolutely no content whatsoever, its disgusting how little shit is in his 10 page filter.
Jat, find a scumread and write some shit about him go I already stated my reads numerous times and wrote shit about them. If you did not see that you haven't read my filter. please help me and quote them. From my perspective, you are just posting one liners and being real salty.
My town alliance is growing strong
Mafia is about to get rekt
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On October 07 2016 19:23 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2016 19:19 Palmar wrote:On October 07 2016 19:16 Palmar wrote:
Btw, you can call me nostradamus later, but here's what's going to happen today:
I'm going to rally some people to my side. Some stragglers and tunnelers are going to remain on the other side.
Marv is going to rescind his scumread on me and scite my posting today, but he's going to look for another easy lynch
JAT is going to be the alternative wagon, it should be marv, but it's easier to convince people to lynch JAT
I'm not going to be around tomorrow to drive the wagon, so the thread will be taken over by mafia.
In some fit of confusion, we're going to end up lynching some low hanging afk fruit, like stutters, damdred, grack. That person is 100% going to flip town and everyone will be mad. The only way to avoid this, is if someone else, (Calix? Superbia?) takes the mantle of leadership and whips this town into shape. It's going to be really tough, but it's what needs to be done. No time.  I'll play co leader in the evening mayb.
Main thing is not to allow a shit lynch today.
If you don't lynch jat or marv, you lynch me. No fucking sidekick lynches.
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On October 07 2016 19:23 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2016 18:41 justanothertownie wrote:On October 07 2016 17:42 Calix wrote:On October 07 2016 17:08 justanothertownie wrote:
I disagree that the calix/nu thing was obviously TvT btw. calix had a comparatively passive role in it. Which I can't fault her for but I don't think the whole thing makes her town at all. This is Grade A bullshit. You're telling me that actively posing a question and accusing someone based on that and tunneling is 'comparatively passive'? If that's passive then your posts are worthy of the Pulitzer prize. "Comparatively" as in "compared to nu". Yes, you did that stuff and I never said the whole thing makes you mafia. I just feel the general procedure of the argument was nu berating you (never really understood why he felt the need to do it since apparently you are "obvious town" to him) while you just went along with the shitshow. I just don't think that makes you town. This is a pretty terrible assessment of that argument.
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Repent Jat, confess your sins. Call me town.
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JAT has mysteriously retreated to his cave to ponder his next move.
This was unexpected, he must come up with a solution.
The suspense is killing me.
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Should he drop the scumread on me? It seems obvious, but what path is there to take?
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We're lynching JAT koshi, get with the times.
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On October 07 2016 19:40 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2016 18:46 Palmar wrote:
It jives rather well with what I've been thinking about this game.
Batsnacks sounded like a townie
Oats sounds like a townie
NU sounds like a special snowflake
Grack is not as funny as I would've thought he should be, but I do like him nonetheless, for now.
Superbia is being an ass, but he does that all the time as all alignments, don't think he's been overtly scummy. One of the big milestones today is going to be whether or not he realizes what is up. If he doesn't, he needs to be dropped very low on everyone's lists when I flip town. Superbia is smart, knows me well, and a good player in general. If he votes for me when I'm town, that's super concerning.
Damdred and Stutters are players I have completely ignored.
Marv is going to drop his vote on me. If he actually stays he's 100% mafia. He reads me better than any player in the history of TL mafia, he has basically a 100% rate on figuring my alignment by day 2 when he's town. If I ever flip town, and he is still calling me mafia, he is scum. there is NO WAY AROUND IT. Thing is, I also know that he knows exactly this. He CAN'T be wrong on me, so I know he's going to end up drop his vote on me today. Depending on whether I believe the reasoning there's a tiny chance I'm wrong. But the NK, his play, his lack of enthusiasm for some things and just some tonally weird things, all point to marv-mafia. Not to mention, both HF and I picked up a townie vibe from batsnacks, and marv completely failed to recognize it. He is better at town than both of us, and that is super concerning.
JAT/Koshi/Calix <--- Three strong players who have been atrociously wrong throughout the game. There is definitely town in this group, probably even two. Whichever ones of you are town need to pull head out of asses and start playing reasonably. It is very likely that one of the townies is Koshi, because him tunneling stupid things is kind of what he does as town, the other two are slightly better so who knows.
Regarding Calix specifically, my day 1 read of her is mostly tonal. She felt very analytical and willing to try to solve the game when she was town in the last game I was with her. This contrasts her more timid and reserved tone here. I am also slightly suspicious of how she could read me so well on day 1 (against all odds she was calling me town) and then dropped it with some complete bullshit reasoning on n1, that is worrying. I like how people are only mafia after you flip. It's your only argument. Fearmongering at its best.
Straggler
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On October 07 2016 19:50 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2016 19:19 Palmar wrote:On October 07 2016 19:16 Palmar wrote:
Btw, you can call me nostradamus later, but here's what's going to happen today:
I'm going to rally some people to my side. Some stragglers and tunnelers are going to remain on the other side.
Marv is going to rescind his scumread on me and scite my posting today, but he's going to look for another easy lynch
JAT is going to be the alternative wagon, it should be marv, but it's easier to convince people to lynch JAT
I'm not going to be around tomorrow to drive the wagon, so the thread will be taken over by mafia.
In some fit of confusion, we're going to end up lynching some low hanging afk fruit, like stutters, damdred, grack. That person is 100% going to flip town and everyone will be mad. The only way to avoid this, is if someone else, (Calix? Superbia?) takes the mantle of leadership and whips this town into shape. It's going to be really tough, but it's what needs to be done. I feel insulted somehow;
Surprise me!
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On October 07 2016 19:58 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +Palmar is 100% town now by the way. I think he's completely incapable of this kind of play as mafia.
like 100% not true but contextually in this game hes town though. if he somehow makes it to lylo with me, hes hanging. man I keep flipping back and forth on marv. Hes almost too chill. Damn.
Just vote jat
It's like doing fentanyl instead of heroin. The high is not as good and it's more likely to end in a disaster
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On October 07 2016 20:15 marvellosity wrote:
okay I kinda see Superbia. I'm asking Palmar to explain my motivation for my actions in the scenario I outlined.
That's not a defence, that's me wanting to know if he has a reasonable explanation.
I don't have a reasonable explantion.
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On October 07 2016 20:16 marvellosity wrote:
Palmar: please explain your EoD / HF reads
thank you
(you've really not done enough to justify me coming off you - saying with great certainty that i should be coming off you by now is a falsehood, as you and i both know i have voted for you for certain periods of time when you were town in many, many games)
no, not really.
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On October 07 2016 20:17 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2016 20:16 Superbia wrote:On October 07 2016 20:15 marvellosity wrote:
okay I kinda see Superbia. I'm asking Palmar to explain my motivation for my actions in the scenario I outlined.
That's not a defence, that's me wanting to know if he has a reasonable explanation.
Read his stuff and then call him mafia or town plox. go away. every time you talk to me you ask me stupid things or want me to do things. do your own things. i'll do my things. thx.
I agree with the things superbia wants you to do
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On October 07 2016 20:23 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2016 20:20 Palmar wrote:On October 07 2016 20:15 marvellosity wrote:
okay I kinda see Superbia. I'm asking Palmar to explain my motivation for my actions in the scenario I outlined.
That's not a defence, that's me wanting to know if he has a reasonable explanation.
I don't have a reasonable explantion. so what were you doing? why didn't you care that bats was getting lynched, why did you vote for HF when before and after you townread him?
I don't want to tell you my secrets.
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I don't even care about koshi.
We're lynching JAT, and that's what we're doing,.
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