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On October 05 2016 02:29 Grackaroni wrote: Hello my good chum. You know that we cannot be scum together because we are creating distance. Good point I didn't think of that | ||
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On October 05 2016 03:45 Damdred wrote: Also I left the calix vs NU argument thinking t v t again. Both sides are pretty lacking in the argument section but it seems like (to me) neither side cared enough about how the thread would perceive them and when they were attacked about the stance they took (especially calix) the backtrack did not feel scum motivated. Really a useless argument though, but I think town on both. I think Calix vs NU is null-town for me. There is definitely an awareness from Calix of how the thread is perceiving her she made several comments that "at least she was making progress" or something to that effect. She backtracked as a response to being called out on her lack of evidence for there being precedence for NU abusing. Overall the vibe I was getting from Calix was that NU trying to PM abuse was an opportunity to look like she was moving the game forward in reality it's was like you said a useless argument between NU and Calix | ||
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On October 05 2016 03:54 Calix wrote: I laugh at the idea of me intimidating you so much with my tone that you don't even want to respond to me. Kindly grow a pair, respond to my points against you, and take some stances plz. your points against me are okay you just have my intentions wrong. I haven't taken many hard stances because there haven't been many happens in the game i feel strongly about, thus trying to talk to people about stuff I notice. | ||
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On October 05 2016 04:06 Calix wrote: Okay, so you're claiming that I am self-aware of the fact that people were scum-reading me. I don't see how this means anything. I changed my mind primarily because HF pointed out that Koshi was backing up NU. Furthermore, that's not what he was arguing - he stated that neither of us CARED about how the thread perceived us. I'm not 'looking' like I'm moving the game forward. It bloody well did, regardless of how accurate my accusations were. The awareness made me believe you cared you're also using a pretty defensive tone and you're making a lot of posts that don't really concern you about yourself personally e.g. NU explaining to you that a post of mine that was about HF actually wasn't against you | ||
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On October 05 2016 04:17 Calix wrote: If that's the case, why haven't you tried harder to push the few points that you do have? You just dropped some fantastical theories including gems such as NU and myself hard-core distancing ourselves. You show zero conviction in what you say which strikes me as un-town-like. Explain how being defensive is a scum tell. I explicitly stated that I was inquiring about the quotes you were using as I was aware that you were referring to HF. You couldn't have missed that as I made that comment right after NU pointed this out. Listen, unless someone else is getting anything useful out of this dumb shit fight I'm just going to ignore you because I feel like I'm wasting my time. I didn't say you did anything scummy I don't think you're Mafia, I said your similarly dumb argument with NU is NAI. That your exchange with NU seemed null vs town to me, I don't think it is outrageous for me to think this as any alignment. Your case on me is fine, I'll take harder stances on stuff if stuff comes up, if not I can live with you being right about me for now. | ||
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On October 05 2016 05:13 Damdred wrote: @Batsnack how am I just trying to jump on people who are gathering steam when u was one of the firsts to scum read you essentially? Which you are still super sideline atm not even really interested in making conclusions on super vs everyone atm? I think superbia is frustrated town would seem consistent with his play the rest of today. He threw out HF and Palmar as names initially and didn't want to explain why for fear of critical people, critical people end up barking at him anyway which is totally his fault but his reactions check out. I thought marv and superbia were equally obtuse to each other earlier marv was just better at spinning it and it got exacerbated by the fact that superbia was being difficult prior. | ||
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On October 05 2016 05:34 Holyflare wrote: There's simply no way anyone can think Superbia is town, he put out reads and is simply asked to explain them and can't and has done shit all but whine. That post was outrageously tmi. He whined about needing to stay on the sidelines presumably because of the bad critical people, he dropped two names but was apprehensive to provide reasoning because omg critical people again, and then he got super frustrated when after he finally opens up the thread runs a train on him. I don't think this story is that outrageous. | ||
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On October 05 2016 05:39 Damdred wrote: Well bats, I am,not sure why you think him being afraid leads him to,being town. And I'm not sure where you are getting that he is even scared at tbh. If you could,point that out would be good. And super who has played with most of us and,is generally a thorn in people's sides as town and explains himself I just don't see fear. So I really don't understand the read you made. Also you avoided explaining how I am just jumping on the easy target when I posted my scum,read not,much push on then,exactly. Most of his first posts are insisting that he needs to stay on the sidelines this phase, that it's in town's best interest that he does or something. Also I remember when I asked about HF and palmar he wouldn't tell me what he was thinking. Being afraid leads to him being town I guess because it doesn't make sense to be afraid as mafia. I'm sure I've played with super in the past but it's been years since I've played with any of you and I don't really remember anything about how super plays. What I'm saying isn't so much that I'm CERTAIN super is town and afraid, it's that his frustration would be consistent with being town and afraid, which would be consistent with trying to stay on the sidelines and his reluctance to elaborate on reads. Like maybe super is self aware that his reads will not stand up to scrutiny because it's only 24 hours into a pretty lame day 1 so far but they're the best he has anyway lol. I obviously can't speak for him but that's pretty much where I'm at anyway. | ||
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That's not the first one I just don't want to find the rest. | ||
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On October 05 2016 05:55 Damdred wrote: You still avoid how I am jumping on the easiest person when I was the first to really push you as the best lynch bats. If super is town and afraid why would he be so adamant about not giving reasoning instead of inciting a large number of,the game to come after him? Also super gas been,pretty confrontational which doesn't point to fear either. And he's lurk in for,meta reasons not real reasons Your post about me was on the back of Carix's and they were pretty similar. and super, me, HF all seemed to gather more steam right at about the same time. 2) same applies if super is mafia; why? | ||
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On October 05 2016 06:02 justanothertownie wrote: You make it sound like I am some sort of evil puppeteer. I like it. Yes that's what I meant like I don't think Calix is helping town by being unpleasant and I think you hurt town by encouraging it | ||
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-marvellosity - early push on palmar was a good contribution -oatsmaster - gut -superbia - same -NU - same I could try to elaborate on the last three if they're of particular interest to anyone -holyflare, "not particularly shit flingy" I still like that lol. Maybe leaning town because several pretty reasonable pushes. haven't said enough to have an opinion one way or the other -koshi -stutters Could be either town or mafia as played -palmar, marv said palmar was excited to play with him palmar hasn't shown any indications of this since the game began though they're not really interacting with each other. Palmar made a good, unique observation about one of oats' posts though. Calix is anti town and generally unpleasant. There have been a lot of useless arguments and plays surrounding this player that mafia could easily influence, a policy lynch would be progress for town. Everyone else there's one or more small thing that's making me think they could be mafia -I read damdred's all star game and damdred's special way of asking questions early on seems different, part of it is coming in so late. Also was really quick to arrive at conclusions I disagree with. I haven't seen damdred as mafia in years but there could be an agenda here. -grackaroni is under the radar pretty good and seems to be happy with where he's at. -jat is encouraging anti-town play, could be pushing lines of thought that hurt town intentionally. Same as damdred I haven't seen jat as mafia in years but there could be an agenda here. | ||
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I know I'm speaking as someone who himself is guilty of not taking stances but jat is also there sort of directing traffic a lot of the time and similarly not taking stances. | ||
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I'm not super current on anyone's meta here but damdred's sudden entrance, sudden conclusions without the early questions, and his conclusions being a lot different than mine could suggest an agenda. | ||
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On October 05 2016 08:45 NeverUnlucky wrote: Having different conclusions in no way suggests an agenda, lol. Your DDD read is purely based on meta. Sudden entrance/sudden conclusions (Which I haven't personally noticed) are not AI. This read feels like a weasel read. Yeah maybe still odds of damdred pushing a mafia agenda feel higher than others imo | ||
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