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On August 25 2016 01:07 disformation wrote:QTs Yes. Again. Cause it worked so good last time. Remember my QT snippets? Look at this one again: Show nested quote +QT 2:
"I wonder if we can convince everyone to elect a dead man.
Not sketchy at all, right? XD"
"/m174 It was a huge coincidence, I never thought there would be bananas in the game"
"Yeah that one isn't me, though there may be another German player around.
I have a secondary condition for leading Europe to Democracy, so I assume there is a fascist counterpart. I guess that makes sense thematically if they have some type of nazi power." Timeline: - Ikea chase announced EoD1 #1998
- Trfel announced his candidacy for EU leadership early D2 #2068
- I get elected and gain access to the QT snippets second half of D2 #2379
- Trfel flips red at EoD2 #2780
At that time only scum could have known that Trfel will def. die to the fox squad!Also: Show nested quote +On August 21 2016 01:13 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On August 20 2016 08:41 disformation wrote:
EBWOP:
Please note, these QTs are not necessarily in the same order as the previous QTs.
QT 1:
"I can't believe you got away with shooting hf and nobody even cares."
"I can't believe they seriously think any of us have bananas XD"
"But yes global warming totally a government conspiracy."
Trfel is one of the few people that uses XD so I think he's likely in the QT 1 thing too. Problem there is that QT 2 has it as well. On August 20 2016 08:42 disformation wrote:
QT 2:
"I wonder if we can convince everyone to elect a dead man.
Not sketchy at all, right? XD"
"/m174 It was a huge coincidence, I never thought there would be bananas in the game"
"Yeah that one isn't me, though there may be another German player around.
I have a secondary condition for leading Europe to Democracy, so I assume there is a fascist counterpart. I guess that makes sense thematically if they have some type of nazi power." Makes me wonder if QT 2 and QT 1 come from the same QT. Given it has at least 174 posts I would venture to say they might both be from the mafia QT. Do we know who was in QT 2? So I think the first guy in QT2 has a pretty high chance of being Trfel himself. Then D3 something very funny happened: Show nested quote +On August 22 2016 13:49 GlowingBear wrote:
Did kita tell you that we are in a QT? Because we are Show nested quote +On August 22 2016 22:07 kitaman27 wrote:
Yeah GB and I have been part of a QT since day 1. Holyflare joined for 24 hours before he was shot by Skynx. We were the people talking about the democracy/fascism stuff in disfo's QT 2. We essentially stopped talking like 5 days ago.
We aren't confirmed to each other (which should be obvious considering that I've had GB on my mafia list for a while now). There hasn't been a lot said, aside from sharing a few reads on day one and a bit about his election powers.
GB was actually the person who told me to post the banana in the thread to confirm that I was really kita. He claims it was a coincidence, but I have a hard time believing that. Let's take a look at that again: Show nested quote +On August 22 2016 22:07 kitaman27 wrote:
Yeah GB and I have been part of a QT since day 1. Holyflare joined for 24 hours before he was shot by Skynx. We were the people talking about the democracy/fascism stuff in disfo's QT 2. We essentially stopped talking like 5 days ago.
We aren't confirmed to each other (which should be obvious considering that I've had GB on my mafia list for a while now). There hasn't been a lot said, aside from sharing a few reads on day one and a bit about his election powers.
GB was actually the person who told me to post the banana in the thread to confirm that I was really kita. He claims it was a coincidence, but I have a hard time believing that. Kita you could have mentioned that Trfel was in there, too... Because I really really don't think the first QT post is from either you, GB or HF (not to mention HF was pretty much dead at that time)... and I don't think either of you had any reason to try and pretend to be Trfel in there either. So. Kita is pretty much 100% confirmed lying about the QT situation and has a very high chance of having been in a QT with trfel...
This seems to make kita confirmed scum
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kitaman27
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On August 27 2016 05:36 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2016 05:27 Rels wrote:Like she asked this:
Questions for mods
(1) I haven't been flipped yet so (a) I assume I'm still town right? (b) and just infected with a vanilla-virus equivalent?
(2) Can I still post in thread? I got confused from the wording of the PM "you have been killed."
And a fucking host responded:
You have no abilities anymore, you still have the same alignment, you were not officially killed and flipped in a game sense, you may still post in the thread and act as a normal player, but you are now considered an undead servant of lunaticman and thus your interests and new secondary objective are now aligned with his.
She is literally mod confirmed. no shes not tho the mod went out of his way to say "same alignment" just really fucking likely but not just for this one post but its part of it
This 1000%
HTS was trying to confirm herself as town to luna by purposely phrasing the question that way.
She knows that Palmar is never going to modconfirm her as town, but if Palmar responds to the question, it makes Luna think that she is.
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On August 27 2016 05:39 Half the Sky wrote:
My team is Kita/Rels/Stutters/Damdred.
Scum are going for preserving Kita/Rels/Stutters. I don't know which one of them has the extra kp but we have to lynch one of them instead of Damdred, so I'll switch to Kitaman.
No, we lynch Damdred for the assured kill. Not to mention I have 0 faith in your associations because you're wrong about me.
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On August 27 2016 05:43 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2016 05:36 sicklucker wrote:On August 27 2016 05:27 Rels wrote:Like she asked this:
Questions for mods
(1) I haven't been flipped yet so (a) I assume I'm still town right? (b) and just infected with a vanilla-virus equivalent?
(2) Can I still post in thread? I got confused from the wording of the PM "you have been killed."
And a fucking host responded:
You have no abilities anymore, you still have the same alignment, you were not officially killed and flipped in a game sense, you may still post in the thread and act as a normal player, but you are now considered an undead servant of lunaticman and thus your interests and new secondary objective are now aligned with his.
She is literally mod confirmed. no shes not tho the mod went out of his way to say "same alignment" just really fucking likely but not just for this one post but its part of it This 1000% HTS was trying to confirm herself as town to luna by purposely phrasing the question that way. She knows that Palmar is never going to modconfirm her as town, but if Palmar responds to the question, it makes Luna think that she is.
I can tell you what was going to happen if she did that to frame herself town
Modkill.
Palmar doesn't like using host to play. He tries to be as invisible as possible.
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kita since we can apparently share QT wxithout problem can you post the link of that "QT 2" from disfo's post pretty please
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The one this is from:
QT 2:
"I wonder if we can convince everyone to elect a dead man.
Not sketchy at all, right? XD"
"/m174 It was a huge coincidence, I never thought there would be bananas in the game"
"Yeah that one isn't me, though there may be another German player around.
I have a secondary condition for leading Europe to Democracy, so I assume there is a fascist counterpart. I guess that makes sense thematically if they have some type of nazi power."
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I think both kita and Hts are town, and very tunneled on each other.
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This is the main thing typing Kita to Trfel, post 4204
(edited spoilers for better readability)
Let's start with my original read on Trfel
+ Show Spoiler [My original read on Trfel] +On August 17 2016 21:08 Half the Sky wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2016 16:18 Trfel wrote:Is anyone awake still?  Still trying to make sense of Onegu and Artanis... While Onegu's actions and specific claims seem very scummy, his play is marked by so much not caring, and Onegu tends to take his scum play relatively seriously. On the other hand, third party feels very likely.
I liked Artanis after skim reading, but then realized that he actually hasn't been doing anything. It feels like he's just trying to seem active and present but he hasn't felt invested at all. In addition to being so secretive about (seemingly) taking control of Superbia's body... I definitely support killing Onegu with the FOX News thing. Maybe Shapelog would also qualify as anti-American... Trfel is someone that I know spins behaviour to be mafia when he is exclusively mafia. (1) Artanis had not been hiding the DGAF attitude so he didn't care that he was getting scumread for it, which is actually a towny trait (2) The so called bounty hunter role (or the action of controlling someone's body) is a mechanic that (knowing Palmar) could be assigned to either alignment (3) Onegu will "not care" what others think as town or scum (the latter example: see Outlaw). So I really don't like that post either.
This post I made well before the IKEA announcement.
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Originally, I stated that Trfel continued making scummy posts, and in the case of TW/SL he kept scumreading them for things that didn't necessarily make them mafia. I didn't have perfect information. That was the basis for my read.
Kita on the other hand leaves Trfel off his original list.
+ Show Spoiler +On August 17 2016 11:13 kitaman27 wrote:
Haven't bothered with filter dives yet, but aside from maybe 1 afk straggler, the mafias are in here.
Onegu
prplhz
Artanis[Xp]
Lunaticman
Dandel Ion
Shapelog
GlowingBear
iamperfection
sicklucker
Meapak_Ziphh
Chezinu
I'll see if I can narrow this down a bit more and come up with a top 3 or something.
This amongst other things suggests you are much more strongly connected to Trfel than me. We proceed to what you are suggesting for vigshots.
+ Show Spoiler +On August 17 2016 23:53 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2016 23:42 Half the Sky wrote:
This is where I am:
Not entirely sure/will need to be sussed out a bit more:
GlowingBear (some townie thought towards the end, though I am deliberately ignoring mechs here, some similar reads to mine)
Dandel Ion (meh)
Lunaticman (need to really see actual reads and not just surviving on mech discussion)
Grackaroni (originally was good but not remembering too many impactful posts from him more recently, falling under the radar?)
MZ (some of his reads I liked but more content would make me more confident on him)
The "dear vig, please take out the trash" pile:
Rels (pending catching up)
Stutters695
Kurumi
Shapelog
Fecalfeast
Possible scum
Trfel (it's somewhere in my filter)
sicklucker (where are the reads)
Chezinu (all he does is go on about his position, someone please shoot him, clearly he's not helping town even compared to Star Wars where you got some semblance he was trying to)
Scum reads
prplhz
Onegu (I make no distinction between anti-town third parties and scum)
IAP I would move GB and Luna down to one of the lower tiers and suggest the vig's focus on the scum reads, while using investigative roles on the trash pile, but this is a solid list overall.
THAT post above is BEFORE Ikea announcement, and you want vigs to focus on the scumreads. Trfel is just above that category.
Then soon after IKEA announcement
+ Show Spoiler +On August 19 2016 06:39 kitaman27 wrote:
Here is where I'm at right now.
Really Town
Half the Sky
Koshi
Disformation
Tumblewood
kitaman27
Mostly Townie
Skynx
Damdred
Dandel Ion
Fecalfeast
No Clue
Kurumi
Stutters695
Trfel
Rels
sicklucker
Shapelog
Kinda scummy, but less so than group below
Artanis[Xp]
Lunaticman
Meapak_Ziphh
Probably Mafia
GlowingBear
iamperfection
prplhz
Chezinu
THEN OUT OF NOWHERE - namely towards the end
+ Show Spoiler +On August 20 2016 08:20 kitaman27 wrote:
Sweet :D
I'd say GlowingBear, Trfel, iamperfection, and chezinu are the priorities.
We have a couple vig shots too right? I wonder if we can take out all of them. It's just like magic folks.
That is where he's suggesting where to sink kp. It comes from nowhere and when I read pages 3-5 of Kita's filter there is zero mention of Trfel, let alone zero direct mention of Trfel (except where quoted in list posts).
The two players have ignored each other and Trfel has flipped mafia. Kitaman in particular had ignored Trfel.
That is why they are both mafia.
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This is like 10% scuminess at best this is super super weak. But he said he was in a QT with GB & HF - well, since we're allowed to share QTs I'm waiting for a link about it.
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will you both please understand that this is not about kita vs. hts
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On August 27 2016 05:57 Tumblewood wrote:
will you both please understand that this is not about kita vs. hts
WILL YOU FUCKING SHUT UP DAMDRED IS DYING 100% TODAY SO WE RE SOLVING ANOTHER PART OF THE GAME
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with the leaps of faith you're willing to make you can draw the conclusion for anyone to be scum
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On August 27 2016 05:44 Stutters695 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2016 05:39 Half the Sky wrote:
My team is Kita/Rels/Stutters/Damdred.
Scum are going for preserving Kita/Rels/Stutters. I don't know which one of them has the extra kp but we have to lynch one of them instead of Damdred, so I'll switch to Kitaman. No, we lynch Damdred for the assured kill. Not to mention I have 0 faith in your associations because you're wrong about me.
I agree about Damdred being mafia. There's no question about that. But you also noticed (or should have noticed) how quick everyone (who was active and in thread) was to vote him down.
Koshi had come up with the theory that there is an ulterior motive for the bus and sicklucker had claimed kp, and I was also bothered by the lack of scumhunting going on. Damdred and Trfel arent' the only mafia and we're in a lylo type situation. People are not looking back and I was really concerned about that.
And if I'm wrong about you, why haven't you made reads on anyone else? Why does it seem like you only pop in when you're mentioned?
Do you have reads on anyone else? You have ignored most of the game to be quite honest.
You also drew attention to some extent because Damdred mentioned he got a red check on you IIRC.
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Well this looks way more aggressive that I intended sorry
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On August 27 2016 05:48 Tumblewood wrote:
I think both kita and Hts are town, and very tunneled on each other.
na....
kitas def mafia trust me I was interacting with them all day. I will shoot kita if hes not lynched. its better we target guys with potential kp
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
meh switching to damdred I guess.
There is an hour less and all townies need to be on the same player or we straight up lose.
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On August 27 2016 05:58 Tumblewood wrote:
with the leaps of faith you're willing to make you can draw the conclusion for anyone to be scum
Do you understand why I'm making this distinction?
If neither of us are mafia, then who is?
For example, what do you think of sicklucker, whom you suspected earlier?
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On August 27 2016 06:00 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2016 05:48 Tumblewood wrote:
I think both kita and Hts are town, and very tunneled on each other. na.... kitas def mafia trust me I was interacting with them all day. I will shoot kita if hes not lynched. its better we target guys with potential kp
Shoot Kita, as it looks like Damdred is getting lynched at the moment.
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but mafia wants dandred lynched/bused... so you do the abosite and lynch kita and I can agree to shoot dandred. you dont give mafia what they want ever. we have no idea what ability they have. dandred could have a survive a lynch ability
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